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Don't like iPhone 5: Skinny Teenager

appleattack said:
It's great to focus on one use case but this is a phone and is used primarily in portrait mode, not as a video player and recorder. Portrait is the orientation that needs to be nailed. Even the entire iOS has no landscape mode. You must hold the device in Portrait mode to even use the device.
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And I have no problems using the rest of the entire device in portrait mode. My thumbs reach all corners just fine. I honestly barely notice a difference. I'm curious to see how some of you hold your phones when you use it. I don't have large hands either. I have very average sized hands for a male my age.

I had a 4s prior to my 5. The glass screen felt the same as on this one. My fingers still slide easier across the aluminum back side, giving me the feeling of the aluminum being smoother. If that's not what you encounter then you may just have drier fingers than me. I am terrible with fingerprints and smudges on my phones.
 
scoobydoo99 said:
Totally agree.

I love Apple products. I owned the original iPhone (purchased on launch night) and have an iPhone 4. I really wanted to like the iPhone 5, and when I read the rumors about the tall, skinny screen, I hoped it wouldn't be true. Unfortunately, it was. Then I thought, "maybe when I see it in person..."

Well, I did that yesterday, and oh my, it's worse than I imagined. The phone just feels weird. The materials don't feel right. It is too light. It no longer feels substantial. The proportions are wrong. It doesn't exude quality. And, worst of all, that TALL, SKINNY screen looks ridiculous. What am I going to do with an extra row of icons or a few more contacts on the display??

The weight is awful too. Lighter isn't necessarily better. Anyone who buys high end home electronics knows that weight is often directly proportional to quality. Think about the cheap $29 DVD players you can get - light as a feather because they're junk. Thats how the new iPhone feels. Like cheap junk.

Huge misfire by Apple, and now we're stuck with this form factor for (probably) two years. ugh. I was one of the ones hoping for the same form factor (as the 4 and 4s) prior to launch, and that would have been infinitely better.

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Why can't you believe that there are a lot of us Apple fans who hate the iPhone 5?
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This.

Everyone else just zip it and stop accusing people of trolling, etc. who don't like the iPhone 5. Deal with it. It's real. There are actually people who don't like the phone.
 
iamthedudeman said:
And trolls will put down anything they make. Whats the difference?

Whats hilarious is you geniuses that say that they could make it so much better and not explaining how or why. Apple doesn't do things to say' look we have this too'. If they feel it doesn't improve a product they will not do it. Samsung throws everything they can into a phone weather it makes it better or not, regardless of battery life, usability etc. Complete garbage.

Wireless charging give me a break.


Sadly, that is not the case. Schiller put it well when he said that people do not need another device to plug in. And that’s just what wireless charging means today. You still need a power adapter. It still needs to be plugged into the wall, but at the other end is some device that you can place your phone on. The only savings is the millisecond it takes to actually plug your charger into the phone.
Read more at

http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/28/w...less-until-its-essential/#cX6ex1qLzhtdrxJh.99

Really? How could they make it better? They improved everything this year. Complete redesign. In fact i don't think next year will be much of a improvement at all. NFC is dead before it got here.

http://www.indystar.com/article/201...s-consumers-not-eager-tap-into-NFC-technology

If they can make it so much better? How. Without making compromises on design and usefulness.
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I feel sorry for people like you. There are so many fanboys like you who are incredulous: refuse to accept and believe anyone or anything who doesn't like an Apple product. And here's where your whole world comes crashing down.

You're on here like a fanboy. Some of us, including me, are on here for business reasons. I own a software company and we develop for Apple. I don't really give a **** what you or anyone else thinks about the iPhone 5... I care about making money. To me, as an iOS developer and someone interested in seeing Apple succeed and profit, with large user bases, it's things like the iPhone 5 that concern me. I need Apple to remain dominant to be successful. I have no idea in the end if the iPhone 5 will be a smash hit after 1 year is up. Maybe it will and maybe people like me who aren't taking to it are in a small minority.

I came on here because I actually thought I was crazy for not liking the iPhone 5. Talk about blind faith in Apple? Well I'm guilty of a bit of that. So I wanted to see what others were thinking, but again not because I really care what you think. I care because if others think the same as me, that's a pattern and there may be some objectivity to it... and some business intelligence can be extracted from this.

I love my Retina MacBook Pro. No complaints there. I love my iMac. I love my girlfriend's MacBook Air. I love my iPhone 4S. So you're whole argument that I'm/we're bashing everything Apple does is absurd.

Wake up.
 
Typswif2fingers said:
In the last 3 years I have used iPhone 3GS and Samsung Galaxy Note 1.

I wanted to get an LTE (4G) phone so I pre-odered a black iPhone 5 64Gb.

I have been using it for a couple of days now. It is really fast. I also like the LTE... and thats about the positive things.

I think that it is time for me to say good bye to it though, and to iOS in general.

The phone has some marks around the edge (not that many tbh., but for a A$ 999 device simply not acceptable).

The edge is too sharp, the phone feels unnatural in my hands and its a bitch to type.

The iOS is stale, I mean it feels really old...

It was fun before, but after using Android last year, iOS simply does not compare. File management is so painful (iTunes are rather counter-intuitive).

That was my whinge.

And I feel better :)
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I don't believe you! ;)

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bandofbrothers said:
I really don't get this.

I assume you compared the ip4s to the ip5 side by side just like me in a retail outlet and had a play with a working demo model ?

Its not much bigger in size terms and same width as the 4s.
Try looking for archived threads about the 4 and 4s when they were released in ref to the back glass panel haters and people saying its time Apple moved onto a new concept.

People cried out for change and a bigger screen so apple have tried this. I admit its not for everyone, but the whole point is to do your homework before committing and or returning in within the refund window.

I currently use the ip4s and will be upgrading to the ip5 when i can get my hands on one !

People are going to defend the ip5 which does not make them fanboys and people are going to criticise it which does not make them apple haters, its just a difference of opinion.

Rerhaps the OP's choice of username is not the best and would lead members to think he/she is a "troll"

Apple find themselves in a Catch 22 situation :rolleyes:
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If you actually read this thread you'd know why we have the iPhone 5.
 
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appleattack said:
You're on here like a fanboy. Some of us, including me, are on here for business reasons.
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I find this hard to believe that you came here for business reasons and the only thing you've contributed to around here is letting others know that you don't like the size of the iPhone 5 (especially when you choose the username appleattack). If you develop for apple, you can complain all you want, but in the end, if you want to keep making money, you'll adapt to their changes.

I come here looking for knowledge of how to get more use out of my current products, how to tweak them to get certain things that I might not know about before, to ask questions about my product when it's not doing something that I want or isn't supposed to do, and when to expect/what to expect out of future products
 
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vastoholic said:
I find this hard to believe that you came here for business reasons and the only thing you've contributed to around here is letting others know that you don't like the size of the iPhone 5. If you develop for apple, you can complain all you want, but in the end, if you want to keep making money, you'll adapt to their changes.

I come here looking for knowledge of how to get more use out of my current products, how to tweak them to get certain things that I might not know about before, to ask questions about my product when it's not doing something that I want or isn't supposed to do, and when to expect/what to expect out of future products
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I don't care what you do or why you're on here. If I had posted a glowing thread about the iPhone 5 like, "I love my iPhone 5" what would you be saying now? Wake up fanboy. Going back in this thread will reveal a solid lot of people agreeing with me. I'M NOT ALONE. There are people posting in here that have been members here for years agreeing with me. Some wanting to take the phone back.

Deal with it and move along to another thread.
 
I don't doubt that there are people who hate it. I'm not denying that fact. Not everyone is going to like the same thing. It's just very annoying when people make an account purely to complain about something they don't like to a complete group of strangers, instead of telling the company that made the product. If you are a developer, then you have even more reason to be upset, apple is forcing you to rewrite your code again. They have a feed back section. I realize you'd probably need to keep the device to test on, so taking it back is out of the question. I'm not upset that you don't like the iPhone or that others don't.

You voiced you're opinion on your thoughts and then I voiced mine by saying why I liked the iPhone. I'm not being a fanboy. It fits my needs. I upgraded out of pure curiosity since I was able to sell my 4s to cover the cost of the 5. I was completely happy with my 4s. Didn't need to upgrade. Had I not liked it, I would have gladly taken it back and purchased a 4s again.

After rereading your OP...
Apple's iPhone 5 feels sharp, obtuse,....
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You kind of contradict yourself right there, unless I'm not understanding the definition of obtuse you're going for.
 
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vastoholic said:
I don't doubt that there are people who hate it. I'm not denying that fact. Not everyone is going to like the same thing. It's just very annoying when people make an account purely to complain about something they don't like to a complete group of strangers, instead of telling the company that made the product. If you are a developer, then you have even more reason to be upset, apple is forcing you to rewrite your code again. They have a feed back section. I realize you'd probably need to keep the device to test on, so taking it back is out of the question. I'm not upset that you don't like the iPhone or that others don't.

You voiced you're opinion on your thoughts and then I voiced mine by saying why I liked the iPhone. I'm not being a fanboy. It fits my needs. I upgraded out of pure curiosity since I was able to sell my 4s to cover the cost of the 5. I was completely happy with my 4s. Didn't need to upgrade. Had I not liked it, I would have gladly taken it back and purchased a 4s again.
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1. I never made an account to just complain to "you" about the iPhone 5. I joined to start talking about Apple products. I'll be around talking about other things. My next on the list is heading into the MacBook Pro area and debugging the isight camera issues people have on the Retina MacBook Pro. So here we are. People like you who over oversimplify everything. Make broadsweeping assumptions and statements based on things you believe so much to exist but really don't.

2. Complaining to Apple will do me no good. And here's the reason. The iPhone 5 is already done. Shipped. Finished. There's no turning back. If people aren't taking to it and sales start falling, that's bad. Apple can't help me. Sure, they can listen and maybe on the next generation they could get it together. I'm interested in patterns to consumer thinking. As an aside, the other aspect to this is my personal feeling. When you grow up and have to work and put food on the table, some of us anyway, need to be passionate about what we're doing to keep getting up everyday to work. If I don't like this phone, that passion will be reduced and the work will suffer. It's a complex relationship of personal investment and business decisions...
 
appleattack said:
The iPhone 5 is larger than the iPhone 4S. This is indisputable.

iPhone 4S: 4.5" high
iPhone 5: 4.87" high

The iPhone is thus physically larger than the iPhone 4S. Anyone who denies this is a troll or completely delusional.
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Just because something is taller, doesn't mean something is bigger too.

I'll give you the highly sophisticated mathematical formula with which you can determine how big something is.

BIG-NESS = length x width x height

You'll find that, in fact, the new iPhone is only taller but not bigger.

The entire back of the iPhone 4S is a high gloss glass. The back of the iPhone 5 is made up of aluminum, a metal, that has been presumably anodized. The very top and bottom band of the iPhone 5 is akin to the iPhone 4S. The high gloss glass is smoother than the iPhone 5. The anodized aluminum is more rough because it's metal treated at high temperature with color. That means it doesn't have layered clear coats over top of it. On the other hand, glass is one of the sleekest surfaces in existence, and is used for things like a touchscreen where you move your fingers around and make multi-touch inputs.

I'm sorry but you're not making much sense.
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I disagree. Also, your multi-touch argument makes no sense. They use glass so you can see the display. Use aluminium and, well, you won't see the display.

Again, you have a different opinion on what is smooth, than I have.
 
ThatsMeRight said:
Just because something is taller, doesn't mean something is bigger too.

I'll give you the highly sophisticated mathematical formula with which you can determine how big something is.

BIG-NESS = length x width x height

You'll find that, in fact, the new iPhone is only taller but not bigger.


I disagree. Also, your multi-touch argument makes no sense. They use glass so you can see the display. Use aluminium and, well, you won't see the display.

Again, you have a different opinion on what is smooth, than I have.
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You're hilarious.

Bigger is an adjective. It's used to describe something that is, "of considerable size, extent, or intensity". Anyone who would try to argue that the use of the term "bigger" as a label for the iPhone 5 in comparison to the iPhone 4S speaks volumes about that person's personality. It's perfectly good, acceptable English to use it as such.

If you don't like bigger, than simply go with "taller".

Glass. Argument... all you do is want to argue. That's your motivation. You don't actually care about this topic other than to argue with people. The point is that glass is one of the smoothest things on the planet. It was used on the backside of the iPhone 4S. Apple now uses none coated, anodized aluminum. As an aside, if you didn't know, which I'm pretty sure you don't, clear aluminum exists...
 
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If you're not happy with something, you should return it and get your money back. This goes for ALL products. It's really useless to try and tolerate something you paid so much money for and don't even enjoy.
 
"Bigger" is a perfectly reasonable way to describe the new iPhone. He's not saying it's "fatter" or "wider," which would both be incorrect. You can say something is bigger without it having to be bigger in every dimension.

This nit picking is silly anyway.
 
I Struggle to take this thread seriously, I do not want to hurl insults at anyone but creating a username called appleattacks

For a start you opened by attacking an the Iphone 5 and offering the Galaxy SIII as an alternative.

As for myself I owned a 4s bought an SIII to own along side and let me tell you the SIII is not comparable in comfort to the Iphone 5, however this is just my opinion.

The Op could have been much more tactile but this just seems like an advert for another product and the fact every time a comment is made he lashes out, please just lets all get along :p
 
cookiesnfooty said:
I Struggle to take this thread seriously, I do not want to hurl insults at anyone but creating a username called appleattacks

For a start you opened by attacking an the Iphone 5 and offering the Galaxy SIII as an alternative.

As for myself I owned a 4s bought an SIII to own along side and let me tell you the SIII is not comparable in comfort to the Iphone 5, however this is just my opinion.

The Op could have been much more tactile but this just seems like an advert for another product and the fact every time a comment is made he lashes out, please just lets all get along :p
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Whatever.

By the way, "appleattacks" as a username is meant to convey that Apple is attacking the tech industry and the world... taking it over. It's an illustration of their dominance in the world. It's not your interpretation of "He wants to attack Apple! See!"

You see and hear what you want to see and hear. I don't like the phone. Get over it!

From here on out I'm reporting each and every post that's off topic, meant to derail the thread, or is one of name calling like a troll.
 
Soo.. after this lengthy debate (argument), what are you going to do with it? Some agree with you, majority love the iPhone 5. Apple isn't going to release a new phone for at least another year.
You've stated your opinion. The shape/design seems like a big issue to you. It is to me too. I bought iPhones because I love the design. I haven't physically hold an iPhone 5 because it hasn't been released in my country, but I'm 99% sure that I will buy it when it's finally out and pretty sure I'll like it.

You only have 2 options. Return it and find something else that you prefer. Or bite the bullet and live with it.
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
Nonsense. Anyone who thinks that obviously has never owned the plasticky 3G/3GS. Now that felt really cheap in the hand (despite being 20 grams heavier than the iPhone 5).
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Inserting a third option in the attempt to minimize or eliminate the result of a direct comparison, are we? The 5 feels cheap when held alongside a 4 or 4s. Nonsense back at you.
 
FieldingMellish said:
Inserting a third option in the attempt to minimize or eliminate the result of a direct comparison, are we? The 5 feels cheap when held alongside a 4 or 4s. Nonsense back at you.
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Hate to disagree with a Woody Allen fan, but...:)

Lighter is not a "cheap" feeling. I get the temptation to equate weight with quality, but in today's cutting edge, tech oriented world, be it electronics, cars, bicycles, sports equipment, whatever, reducing weight has become an important goal in pushing the limits of a particular object, and while I agree once upon a time, more weight could indicate higher quality, I don't think it's true in today's high tech world, with high tech materials and manufacturing processes. I suppose a phone could some day be so feather light that it just feels strange, but that wouldn't mean it's not a high quality phone.

Anybody can make something heavier at virtually no cost. Much harder to make something lighter, while retaining full functionality. Imagine, as just one way lighter is better, a feather light phone. It falls on concrete. I'd expect it to suffer far less damage than a heavier phone from the impact. A feather light phone can also be carried and held more easily.

There are generally many advantages to reducing weight, very few to increasing.
 
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Stay on topic, debate the subject do not cast aspersions to any of the members
 
The OP is not asking for suggestions, he is asking if anyone agrees with him.

I agree (mostly) with what he has said. My biggest gripe is that the phone feels substantially cheap, and even worst, the OS 6 really doesn't have the polish that the old ones did.

If my 4S ever broke, I'd probably buy an iPhone 5 at some point. Just because I don't like many things about it, it doesn't mean that I have to buy an Android.
 
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