Don't Piss My Daddy Off. -_-

[TEG]

I'm sure he has it safe.....lucky you didn't get the belt or a shoe....you'll get it back when he thinks you learned your lesson.

Broom is a good arse whooping tool

Bless

Until I was 13 it was a Rice Paddle. Then standing in a corner. Little kids don't understand time out, the only way to get it through their heads that they were bad is physical punishment.

BTW, you're 15, What could you have done to deserve your laptop being taken away? Better question, Why for the grace of the master of the universe do you have a laptop?

Great, now I have to write a Blog entry about dicipline.

TEG

 

[2nyRiggz]

Lets get a taco...

I'm also feeling a taco......but yea MongoTheGeek got it right there...seems a little bit more rooted than this one incident.


Bless

 

[plinden]

Then standing in a corner. Little kids don't understand time out, the only way to get it through their heads that they were bad is physical punishment.

My four year old understands timeouts very well, especially after we realised she took it a lot harder when we took her bear away from her for the duration of the timeout. In fact, she hasn't had to have a timeout since we did that ... she gets very obedient when we threaten "a timeout without bear".

 

[Hummer]

BTW, you're 15, What could you have done to deserve your laptop being taken away? Better question, Why for the grace of the master of the universe do you have a laptop?

Read the story.

I thought it was a better investment than a mac mini. I wanted to switch and I wanted something portable. What sold me was the fact that I could put it into dual screen mode.

 

[technicolor]

Until I was 13 it was a Rice Paddle. Little kids don't understand time out, the only way to get it through their heads that they were bad is physical punishment.

This is sooo not true. I am not necessairly against physical punishment, but every child is different. Many children can be reasoned with and spoken to. As well as many understand consequences like taking away favorite things. I see spankings as last resorts really, and I see many parents result to physical punishment immediately because they are uncreative to come up with better solutions and/or lack communication skils to control their child. Children are people too and dont necssairly deserve to just get beat on because they lack understanding of their actions, that's why they are a child and not an adult in the first place.

 

[CoMpX]

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Better question, Why for the grace of the master of the universe do you have a laptop?

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TEG

Are you saying 15 year olds can't have laptops?


To the OP, my dad would have reacted the same way. I have been lucky because they have been VERY lenient lately. First, I snuck out to my friends house (female), and my dad found out. My punishment? He gave me a curfew of 11pm.

Two days later, I broke that curfew and came home at 12:30. (BIG mistake) Punishment? Grounded for a week. If I was my kid, I would have just whooped my as. Ususally, my parents are not that forgiving so I consider myself lucky.

 

[Queso]

So your Dad wanted you to watch over your sister rather than lying in bed, which is fair enough. Maybe he thought he might be late picking her up and wanted to make sure she wasn't waiting around on her own. Fair enough again. Then you backchatted him, and deliberately went on a go-slow to piss him off. You explain in your post that your Dad is highly strung, yet you antagonised him. It sounds like he's someone who is highly stressed to me and the last thing he needs is you giving him lip rather than doing something to ease one aspect of his worries.

Sorry bud, but if you're doing that teenage rebellion against hierarchy thing, expect him to reassert the traditional order and keep you in your place. Leave the iBook where it is until he offers it back to you, and next time he asks you to get out of bed, show willing and do it.

 

[Kardashian]

FEAR. RESPECT. every child should know those two things. And live by them.

I'm not going to start with you, but as someone who's had a little more than a 'belt whipping' - fear is NOT the way to run a home, or a family.

Children, as badly behaved as they can be, are still human beings. They still process things (on some level) - even if it doesn't show.

I think you should ask yourself WHY these 'tyrants' act the way they do.

You will also find children who have experienced violence and/or fear in the home also go on to pass these traits onto their own children, or if they don't have children - still carry the anger/hate/violence as adults - more often than so, ending them up prison.

I agree with you that in some respects, parents are too 'soft' on their children. But fear? You would actually want to make your child afraid of you? You think thats how to run a home?

You have no idea how much that comment angers me!

One minute we are being told to talk about sex, drugs, bullying etc with our parents - with openness and trust, then you come along and say we're meant to fear you?

Get a grip, for heavens sake.

Fear does not equal respect. Fear equals fear. Which over the years will multiply, and if you can go to bed at night satisfied that your own child is afraid of you, and by using bullying tactics your being a good parent.. my God do you have a lot to learn.

If you as a parent, disspapoint your child, or do something wrong (against the unwritten rules of 'being a parent') - then let them smack you. With a belt, whatever. Let them make you fear them.

When they grow older, or even when their 10/11 years of age, and someone in school says a comment about them, or steals something their playing with, and your child hits that other child? or worse? Your gonna be proud?

You should be. You've raised them a bully.

 

[celebrian23]

This is sooo not true. I am not necessairly against physical punishment, but every child is different. Many children can be reasoned with and spoken to. As well as many understand consequences like taking away favorite things. I see spankings as last resorts really, and I see many parents result to physical punishment immediately because they are uncreative to come up with better solutions and/or lack communication skils to control their child. Children are people too and dont necssairly deserve to just get beat on because they lack understanding of their actions, that's why they are a child and not an adult in the first place.

I agree different folks different strokes. My little sister just wouldn't respond to the discussion-based way of doing things. I on the other hand, being a more sensitive child, reacted poorly to spankings but when my parents would talk to me about why it was wrong it worked extremely well. Though that approach failed immediately with my little sister

 

[lexus]

Take all his car keys away and refuse to give them back until he gives it back to you, better still put a "virus" on his pc and tell him you need your ibook to fix it.

 

[Kardashian]

put a "virus" on his pc and tell him you need your ibook to fix it.

Haha! You rock!

 

[technicolor]

I agree different folks different strokes. My little sister just wouldn't respond to the discussion-based way of doing things. I on the other hand, being a more sensitive child, reacted poorly to spankings but when my parents would talk to me about why it was wrong it worked extremely well. Though that approach failed immediately with my little sister

Same here.. My brother needs to be swatted from time to time , he has a thick skull. Me..it would hurt my feelings to even think I had the disapproval of my parents. All it took was a look from my mom for me to burst in tears. I got one spanking my entire childhood, and I remember it distinctly. As an adult, I can honestly say I deserved it too.

 

[technicolor]

Take all his car keys away and refuse to give them back until he gives it back to you, better still put a "virus" on his pc and tell him you need your ibook to fix it.

Hope you are offering him your sofa, for when he gets kicked out...

 

[OnceUGoMac]

I'm not going to start with you, but as someone who's had a little more than a 'belt whipping' - fear is NOT the way to run a home, or a family.

Children, as badly behaved as they can be, are still human beings. They still process things (on some level) - even if it doesn't show.

I think you should ask yourself WHY these 'tyrants' act the way they do.

You will also find children who have experienced violence and/or fear in the home also go on to pass these traits onto their own children, or if they don't have children - still carry the anger/hate/violence as adults - more often than so, ending them up prison.

I agree with you that in some respects, parents are too 'soft' on their children. But fear? You would actually want to make your child afraid of you? You think thats how to run a home?

You have no idea how much that comment angers me!

One minute we are being told to talk about sex, drugs, bullying etc with our parents - with openness and trust, then you come along and say we're meant to fear you?

Get a grip, for heavens sake.

Fear does not equal respect. Fear equals fear. Which over the years will multiply, and if you can go to bed at night satisfied that your own child is afraid of you, and by using bullying tactics your being a good parent.. my God do you have a lot to learn.

If you as a parent, disspapoint your child, or do something wrong (against the unwritten rules of 'being a parent') - then let them smack you. With a belt, whatever. Let them make you fear them.

When they grow older, or even when their 10/11 years of age, and someone in school says a comment about them, or steals something their playing with, and your child hits that other child? or worse? Your gonna be proud?

You should be. You've raised them a bully.

Well, yeah. If I was your dad, all I'd have to do is give you a buzzcut.

 

[iTwitch]

They didnt have ibooks to take away back then...

Etch-A-Sketch and slinky, I hated not being able to play with my high tech toys.

 

[stonyc]

I agree with what Mongo said about being falsely accused of one crime, but then committing anotherone... your dad may have overreacted and though you may have done nothing wrong (it did sound like you "sassed" him), you only made things worse by finding and re-hiding your iBook.

 

[Hummer]

Take all his car keys away and refuse to give them back until he gives it back to you, better still put a "virus" on his pc and tell him you need your ibook to fix it.

Finally someone who gives me an idea.

 

[Kardashian]

Well, yeah. If I was your dad, all I'd have to do is give you a buzzcut.

Haha! Well played, OnceUGoMac!

Had that sorted, got a free haircut from the best stylist in town - normally charges £60 - 'cos I was presenting that fashion show..

Its mega cool now, LOL.

 

[CompUser]

The first place I would look is in their bedroom. Look under the bed, in the drawers, or under a pile of cloths. Next I would look in their closet. I would then look in a part of the house that is not often used like a formal living room or dining room.

The 2nd best way to get it back is to work out your problems with your dad or take your dads laptop, cell phone, car keys, etc and hold them hostage. (don't try that)

 

[Hummer]

I agree with what Mongo said about being falsely accused of one crime, but then committing anotherone... your dad may have overreacted and though you may have done nothing wrong (it did sound like you "sassed" him), you only made things worse by finding and re-hiding your iBook.

I'm not giving into him because he's an adult. All I did was suggest something and I get yelled at and grounded. I'm tired of the whole kids should just listen, shut up and accept whatever they get. If I am treated unfairly I'm fighting back.

The first place I would look is in their bedroom. Look under the bed, in the drawers, or under a pile of cloths. Next I would look in their closet. I would then look in a part of the house that is not often used like a formal living room or dining room.

I still can't seem to find it even though I think I've looked everywhere. I'm trying to listen for the fan.

 

[OutThere]

I agree different folks different strokes. My little sister just wouldn't respond to the discussion-based way of doing things. I on the other hand, being a more sensitive child, reacted poorly to spankings but when my parents would talk to me about why it was wrong it worked extremely well. Though that approach failed immediately with my little sister

Definitely.

I see parents who insist on only using the 'discussion' and 'time out' method every day at work.

While little Jimmy runs around flinging ice cream into the air and hitting his parents all they can do is say "James Andrew Horrigan! That's a time out young man!"

I agree it can work for some kids, but too much leniency makes kids unable to deal with any sort of authority.

Me? I got spanked. Bent over the radiator and bare-palmed. (very very rarely)

 

[Kardashian]

Tell him you need it for School..You've done wrong, and you own up to it.

Tell him you realised now that taking the laptop back was wrong, and it was undermining his authority. You've seen the error of your ways, and as you've been mature enough to realise hes right, and you are wrong, you hope you can have your laptop back.

Tell him you have served your punishment and seen the error of your ways ("Dad I realise I shouldn't have...but I do feel you need to listen to my version more often. My views may not always be right, but it would be nice to be heard..") - and that as you have been grown-up enough to take the second-part of your punishment like a man, hopefully he can treat you like one, by providing you with a laptop you need.. for School, and letting you voice your concerns/opinions.

Don't take it back - you are being punished for a reason. And remember, there's always someone worse off than you.

PS: To become and adult, you have to be treated like one.. and taking little Hummers toys isn't teaching him many life skills

 

[ham_man]

Just suck it up. It'll be better in the long run.

 

[TheAnswer]

It would be best if I just told the story...To make the ending shorter. I did pick up my sister and I did it the way I suggested because my mom butted in. And my way didn't involve me sitting in the heat for two hours.

Sure you avoided the heat...
But now you don't have your laptop.

You have to understand that the best way to deal with something you don't want to do is to make the best of it or try to compromise.

In this case I'm going to guess that either there is some background that makes your father believe that you wouldn't be responsible enough to pick up your sister on time OR that he wanted the two of your to spend time together while you watched the lesson.

The best way to approach the situation might have been: 1) tell your dad you're a little groggy since you just woke up and it might take a little more time than he expects 2) Put on a pair of shorts and a t-shirt and wash your face 3) Hang out with your dad a little while, then maybe take a walk in the rest of the park or something.

Something tells me that your dad and you don't have a very close relationship. One way to improve this is to try to see things from he point of view (it will give you insight into why he's doing things. You don't always have to agree with him, but if you understand where he is coming from you have a better chance of compromising with him or changing his mind).

You father and you both come across as people set in their opinions. If there are two rocks banging together, the stronger rock (your father since he owns the house) will always win. If you try and be more flexible, like water...you might find you can soften the edges of the relationship and get along better. Good luck.

 

[Timepass]

Read the story.

I thought it was a better investment than a mac mini. I wanted to switch and I wanted something portable. What sold me was the fact that I could put it into dual screen mode.

I read the story and I going to have to say you screwed up. I dont by there no way I can get reading in time crap conderiding I pulled of the less than 5 mins waking up getting dressed and out the door for class (alarm was set for the wrong time). Now I didnt get my morning shower but I did have time t comb my hear and grab a cup of coffee as I was moving off to my car.

It is not hard to rush if need be.

Also your dad statement was made in anger and you shuld of known that and knew it was an anger statement and he still wanted you to go to you sister practic and stuff. I goign to guess the reason he wanted you there the entire time is she is a younger sister so you would be there for her safety (I dont care what you say about your neiborhood it for both you parents and you sister peace of mind). Your dad took something from you that he knew would get the point accross that you screwed up. Apprently you didnt get it.

As for understanding this stuff I went though that stage with both my parents. My mom I am more likely to have yelling matches with. My dad I gotten in to matches with him. I highly respect my dad but when he gets angery he gets angery and will say things like that. Been there done that.

Your next mistake was going hunting for it in the house. That tick off a parent because it is a clear sign you didnt get. On top of that you tried to recuited your sister in on it. She did the right thing. My brother and I learned the leasoon the hard way trying to get my sister involved and not only did we get in trouble for trying to get her involved we got in trouble for trying to go around it.

As for you ibook I wouldnt be surpised if you dad took it to work with him and he going to keep it there for a while because clearly you dont get it. I also wouldnt be surpised if it is in the house. My home with my parents is a middem size house and I know little hidding spots that people would not fine. There always there. My parents have hide stuff from me before and I though I looked everywhere you could think of for it and never found it.

The best advice is talk to your dad calmly and resepctfully. You dont have much of a leg to stand on here. Honor resepct and love your parents. 9 times out of 10 they are right and then of the 1 out of 10 times they are wrong chance are really good that you screwed up even worse than they did.