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I'll give it a pass, as sometimes demos have issues. I think Craig handled it pretty well too, not really missing his step and simply continuing on. Besides, it was reassuring to see that you can still unlock your phone in the event FaceID misreads, something that I'm sure was on the minds of many viewers.

Always have had the alternate option to unlock via password since the 5S. Wasn't worried about that at all.
 
Maybe the software on stage had bugs. I don't think it matters much. They will fix the bugs I think.

True, Murphy's Law guarantees that almost every demo will have a fail :)

It is 20X more secure than Touch-ID they inferred.

Depends on our definition of "secure".

  • Is it 20x less likely that someone else will match your stored template? Yes, although no one's worried about that before.
  • Is it more secure, as in it's harder for someone else to get in while you're sleeping? Apparently somewhat, since it requires eyes open. TouchId didn't care.
  • Is it more secure, as in it'll keep someone else from authenticating via faked input? Probably, since TouchId is easily spoofed with a proper fake print and FaceId likely needs a big 3D object, but we won't know for sure until the German computer club gets hold of it :)
I mean who knows. Maybe it's dumb about distance, and using a miniature head copy the size of a thumb, held close to the sensors, can fool it. Don't forget that plenty of people have 3D printers these days!
 
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Its a huge stretch to be "worried" by the demo considering Apple's methods and history of general excellence and only delivering products when they are ready.
 
I've only heard one claim that FaceID had "plenty of missed unlocks" and that's this article quoting Vice. Yet I've seen it work flawlessly in plenty of hands on videos. If anything, I'm more concerned that FaceID is not secure enough...
 
JUST IN: The guy who's job it was to make sure that Face ID didn't time before the demo was seen STILL taping up his hiney hole while applying for unemployment.
 
It was a veiled trick to fool people into thinking his error was accidental. It wasn't. It was because they're trying to show people,who think it's worth shelling out a thousand quid for a solution for a non existent problem to think again. Do they really want a bit more screen space and a funny face simulator for that kind of money?

I think it was actually pretty kind of the guy to do that and put people before profits for once. Thanks, man!

You put things into perspective. An overpriced "new" phone with USPs consisting of a five day gimmick (Animoji). A Samsung Note-a-like screen size and a no-quicker-than-fingerprint solution novelty might not be one of life's priorities after all.

However. For those with a shockingly large amount of disposable income that think such fripperies will enhance their lives proportionally - let's get you down that phone shop in a couple of months. For the rest of us mortals, it's business as usual. Especially now we've sat down and taken a few breaths. Post-keynote euphoric enthusiasm needs that once the hyperventilation has settled. "A grand. For THAT? What was I thinking?" Easily done.

So. Once again. Apple. Thanks for considering the people.
 
I imagine that someone in Apple received the beating of a lifetime for this. It's either the Face ID team or the person that staged the demo device for Federighi. I've heard from close friends of mine at Apple, that behind closed doors Tim Cook can turn into a winter beast with the icy and calculated demeanor of a serial killer. Whereas Jobs would have went on an anger induced rampage for this, screaming in employees faces like a Marine drill sargeant, apparently Cook will raise his voice, stare you down and then slowly excise your insides by slicing open your stomach with an X-Acto knife.

Right now SOMEONE is bleeding on the streets of 1 Apple Park Way.
 
It was a veiled trick to fool people into thinking his error was accidental. It wasn't. It was because they're trying to show people,who think it's worth shelling out a thousand quid for a solution for a non existent problem to think again. Do they really want a bit more screen space and a funny face simulator for that kind of money?

I think it was actually pretty kind of the guy to do that and put people before profits for once. Thanks, man!

You put things into perspective. An overpriced "new" phone with USPs consisting of a five day gimmick (Animoji). A Samsung Note-a-like screen size and a no-quicker-than-fingerprint solution novelty might not be one of life's priorities after all.

However. For those with a shockingly large amount of disposable income that think such fripperies will enhance their lives proportionally - let's get you down that phone shop in a couple of months. For the rest of us mortals, it's business as usual. Especially now we've sat down and taken a few breaths. Post-keynote euphoric enthusiasm needs that once the hyperventilation has settled. "A grand. For THAT? What was I thinking?" Easily done.

So. Once again. Apple. Thanks for considering the people.

Bring my PowerBooks back! Steve wouldn't have ever allowed a vacuum cleaner PowerBook G4 to ship!!!!
 
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JUST IN: The guy who's job it was to make sure that Face ID didn't time before the demo was seen STILL taping up his hiney hole while applying for unemployment.
I feel like unemployment jumped .1% this quarter just from retarded Apple employees...
 
Stage makeup is the culprit that interferes with Face ID. Unfortunately, stage makeup only gets applied on live stage events so it was overlooked during R&D, QA and even dry runs leading up to the event.
 
The more alarming thing to me is at the very end of the article it mentions it failed quite often during hands on after the conference.

"When held at the right distance, it worked well and quickly, but we saw plenty of missed unlocks in our time with the phone."
Yeah, I’m glad if that is the case since I and many others (most people I think) would still like to see Touch ID.
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I doubt they'll bring Touch ID back after claiming they have something better now.
Well their plan from the beginning wasn’t to remove it but they decided to after poor results and other issues. They are more than half way there with the technology, and the demand is present so they have no real reason not to try again.
 
Yeah, I’m glad if that is the case since I and many others (most people I think) would still like to see Touch ID.

Not really. Many people who stay in warmer climates can't open their phone anymore if their finger is sweaty.

It doesn't work that fast anyway.

And like it was already said, most hands on clips show the new system working fine, if not better than touch ID.

Who knows what that one outlier was doing or what was going on. Not sure what youre holding on for the system not working, or why you're trying to imply the masses prefer Touch ID and reject this new tech just because thats your inclination?
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Stage makeup is the culprit that interferes with Face ID. Unfortunately, stage makeup only gets applied on live stage events so it was overlooked during R&D, QA and even dry runs leading up to the event.

Doesn't explain the other one working fine then.
 
Not really. Many people who stay in warmer climates can't open their phone anymore if their finger is sweaty.

It doesn't work that fast anyway.

And like it was already said, most hands on clips show the system working fine, if not better than touch ID.

Who knows what that one outlier was doing or what was going on.
My reply was to a post that said how the hands on experience wasn’t all perfect, and ignoring that you can go online and see for yourself, it wasn’t just one person. But I am not saying to get rid of Face ID in favour of Touch ID, I don’t agree with that. But I do think Touch ID should be there, and by having both they would cover everyone. If you wanted to be really secure you could even use both at once, if there is a point to that.
 
My reply was to a post that said how the hands on experience wasn’t all perfect, and ignoring that you can go online and see for yourself, it wasn’t just one person. But I am not saying to get rid of Face ID in favour of Touch ID, I don’t agree with that. But I do think Touch ID should be there, and by having both they would cover everyone. If you wanted to be really secure you could even use both at once, if there is a point to that.

If you claim it wasn't just one then you should post the link to the other negative ones. All the ones I saw it worked fine and reasonable.

Do you understand why they got rid of Touch ID and the button? It was to make space.

Having both on there to "cover everyone" makes absolutely no sense.
 
The issue is a sweaty face....notice the first thing he does after the fail...wipes sweat from his face. Sweat probably causes the IR dots to reflect a bit different.

TouchId has similar issues when your hands are wet...different mechanism of course.
 
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I have seen some YouTube early reviews after the event. Where they try to get the person to unlock the phone with their face. Only to have to swipe up on the phone after a while since it wasn’t working. And the reviewer will say something like well that is how it was “supposed” to work and move on. Or it takes quite a few attempts in the demo to make it work.
In order to view the home screen once the device is unlocked you have to swipe up
 
Maybe the software on stage had bugs. I don't think it matters much. They will fix the bugs I think.

It is 20X more secure than Touch-ID they inferred.

Not such a big deal that a demo had a bug on stage.

There was no bug. The iPhone X’s biometric behavior, security and interactions is consistent with other iPhones with Touch ID.

Unless Apple is running some completely new build of iOS 11, if Face ID failed the iPhone X would have presented a graphic indicator for the unlock failing and display “try again” on the screen.

Nothing about the iPhone X demo suggests Face ID registered anything...because it needed to be enabled first with passcode
 
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"You're looking at it wrong."

I love this too much to ignore a proper thank you for this most hilarious comment. You summed it up perfectly! Bravo! :)
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You have to wipe you face first, duhh.

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And then the second best comment goes to you, I swear this is too good to be ignored! I love that you even have a screen shot of the "Tutorial" of how to use it ;p
 
In order to view the home screen once the device is unlocked you have to swipe up

Well I know that. This was one or two videos I saw where it specifically did not work like it was supposed. So they ended up having to say that normally it works like that. And use their hand to unlock the screen. Or they would stare at the screen a few times before it let them unlock the phone. Not a huge deal to me. But I did notice it is kind of iffy early on.
 
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