Not sure about this. My iPhone 7 Plus works straight without seeking Passcode using Touch ID, in the morning after being unused for the entire night (more than 5 hours).
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Doubts and Speculation Surround Apple's Onstage Face ID 'Fail' During iPhone X Keynote [Updated]
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Not sure about this. My iPhone 7 Plus works straight without seeking Passcode using Touch ID, in the morning after being unused for the entire night (more than 5 hours).
Note, it says, "Your passcode is require to, uh, utilize... FaceID." It suggests that the phone had been rebooted, and they forgot to enter the passcode.You have to wipe you face first, duhh.
This. Normally I'm pretty cool with MacRumors, but this was an extraordinarily long write-up about a non-issue. It didn't work once and was flawless for the rest of the keynote and later demonstrations. What is there to talk about?
People don't gripe this much when their TouchID experiences the same issue. Either I didn't dry my hand enough or put too much lotion on my hand and now it complains to me once so I know my finger isn't detecting as well.
People are complaining about a feature worrying them when they have not even experienced it yet.
There is no thinking required for the Apple Fanboys like me. I simply trust that the next version is great and buy it regardless of price. This works very well. I do not need to waste time speculating about imaginary Apple problems. This is the largest company in the world with a winning attitude and winning plan.
If they have software bugs on a demo, it does not mean the sky is falling. For those who look for values and saving $300 on a smartphone - I think they should simply pay more attention to their own time wasted on comparisons. Apple is making the best - that's all there is to it. Do not waste your time comparing or counting your pennies saved.
I have owned a Lumia 950XL (and still have) for like 1.5 years. I understand it has iris unlock, not ~FaceID~ but it's highly aggravating. It will drive people absolutely nuts having to stare at the phone to use it. Sure, it looks fast. Sure, it looks high-tec. It isn't a replacement for a fingerprint though. Not even close.
The X is a mistake. Time will tell.
The X is a mistake. Time will tell.
I can't beileve they actually put faceId to work live in the keynote, in such an important event in order to minimize these potential failures they should've tricked it by having a phone that is already unlocked so the demonstrator only has to swipe the screen to get to the homescreen, making it seem like it works as expected.
The real thing that makes the X great for me is that it has a smaller form factor than the 8+
My wife doesn't want a bigger phone than the iPhone 8 (she has a 7 right now). But now she will get the iPhone X because it is not much bigger than the 8 - amazing, and I did not even realize that until I looked at the dimensions and comparison photos.
Perhaps the backup phone as it's name suggests, was a specially modified version to not use FaceId as a "backup" in case the real one didn't work?
Oh yes, it would be. Wanna make a bet on it
I bet it will be all OK.
Either way they have a month and a half to fine-tune the software.
This is a completely unimportant issue. I'd accept Face ID failing to recognize me 50% of the time in version 1.0. It will only get better, and quickly. I would NOT be fine, however, if it generated a false positive recognition even .1% of the time-- that would be a showstopper.
Holy cow! Hold on everybody. So you're telling me I actually need to look at the phone in order to use it? I wouldn't have thought!
https://developer.apple.com/documen...licy/1622327-deviceownerauthenticationwithbio
"If Touch ID or Face ID is not available or not enrolled, policy evaluation fails. Touch ID authentication is disabled after 5 unsuccessful attempts, requiring the user to enter the device passcode in order to be reenabled. Face ID is disabled after 2 unsuccessful attempts, requiring the user to enter the device passcode in order to be reenabled."
I've updated the OP with the above info.
"If Touch ID or Face ID is not available or not enrolled, policy evaluation fails. Touch ID authentication is disabled after 5 unsuccessful attempts, requiring the user to enter the device passcode in order to be reenabled. Face ID is disabled after 2 unsuccessful attempts, requiring the user to enter the device passcode in order to be reenabled."
I've updated the OP with the above info.
You are incredibly easily pleased then. There are absolutely no excuses if it isn't rock solid on launch day.
You said:
Why would it put up a passcode prompt unless it tried? Something had to trigger that prompt.
Are you saying that if someone doesn't enable FaceId, then it will be constantly putting up a passcode prompt whenever it sees someone pass by? That makes no sense and would be constantly going off.
The prompt is the normal one if someone tries biometrics and it fails.
Still seems to be a lot of questions about the details.
Exactly my thoughts. It's much FUD about nothing is my opinion. As much as we all liked Touch ID, I don't think everyone should be afraid of what Apple is telling us can be 20X less likely to false unlock. People were afraid of just about every computer innovation - from floppy disks, to the removal of floppy drives, to USB, to phones without keyboards. It's silly really. We should learn that we might not know until we try it.
This exactly. Has anyone bothered to watch the hands on demos of the X? The face ID appears to work seamlessly, and thats right after it has been set up by the user. Once it has time to learn your face it will work even better.
LOL
I'm trying to imagine this.
TouchId attempt counts are easy. A person keeps putting their finger on the sensor.
FaceId on the other hand, supposedly is constantly being triggered by faces nearby, right? (I missed some of the presentation yesterday.) Seems incredibly easy to fail back to a passcode if so.
What am I missing guys? Is it simply assumed that just a nearby face is always an attempt to unlock? If so, that would mean leaving your phone face up on a desk is almost always going to end up with it being passcode locked if anyone looks at it. (Solution - keep your phone face down ?)
I'm pretty surprised they don't rehearse for failures like this. Craig made the whole situation worse with the "ho ho ho" and touching his face in a nervous/agitated manner.
It could have been easily swept under the rug by simply saying something like "oops, I have the wrong phone" or something along those lines. Or maybe even better, nothing at all.
It could have been easily swept under the rug by simply saying something like "oops, I have the wrong phone" or something along those lines. Or maybe even better, nothing at all.
You should buy a android device if you are that easily pleased. I buy apple because I want stuff to work, and work well.
That's why I am waiting for the reviews.
I can accept Face ID being slower then Touch ID by a little bit. I CANNOT accept it failing over lets say 25% of the times.