The most annoying thing about the update for me is that it keeps asking me to update everytime I plug my iPod in. I probably will buy the upgrade - just not at the moment. "Remind me later" does not help so much. Is there a way to turn off the ****ing reminder?
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iPod touch Down with Apple's Touch "Upgrade" Fees
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The most annoying thing about the update for me is that it keeps asking me to update everytime I plug my iPod in. I probably will buy the upgrade - just not at the moment. "Remind me later" does not help so much. Is there a way to turn off the ****ing reminder?
If your down with upgrade fees, then go buy an iPhone. With the January Software Upgrade, you could have had a month of AT&T coverage. (if your an existing AT&T customer)
Seriously, at least Apple updates there products. Last time I checked, the iPod nano hasn't had any software upgrades that are major.
Seriously, at least Apple updates there products. Last time I checked, the iPod nano hasn't had any software upgrades that are major.
But is Apple Sony?
Last time I remembered, Apple didnt make the PSP. Sony did.
Or just dont buy anything for the touch. I mean seriously, is it THAT hard to comprehend?!
(I can already guess what the next reply will be...)
What do you mean by not buying anything for the iPod touch? Such as Software Upgrades? If you mean by that then...
Don't by Leopard because there's going to be a new version out in a couple of years.
Don't buy a PlayStation 3 because there's going to be PlayStation 4 in a couple of years.
Or... WHY DON"T YOU JUST JAILBREAK IT! It's not that hard, and it "saves" you $20.
I enjoy how after Apple updates something, all of the people happy with the new product/software upgrade are too busy to reply on these forums because there too busy buying/downloading/enjoying them.
On the other hand, people who are "feud up" (which you can't be because your still here since after the iPhone price drop) come and bash Apple here. Lovely world we live in..
i think its kinda stupid that they keep charging for there updates to it because by the time it gets completely replaced were going to have paid more than its worth.... well i suppose you could get a iphone but you would still be paying indirectly through monthly service....
I don't own an iPod Touch or an iPhone. I do, however, own three iPods, and have received (collectively) several firmware updates from Apple for them, none of which I had to pay a penny for. None of which would I have been willing to pay for merely an update to. Period.
I think the pro-Apple-charging folk here and elsewhere on the board are missing a very essential point made by this thread starter, as well as by others, and that is a grievance with Apple over paying for the same kind of updates on an Touch that would nominally be free in any other kind of context. We don't pay for updates to software (generally), nor to our OSs, nor the bundled apps on our Macs.
What is so absolutely hard for you folks to get through your heads about this? The OP and myself are not saying "We shouldn't have to pay for new apps, or new releases of apps," but "We shouldn't have to keep paying every time Apple revises their stuff."
As regards the often-sited SarbanesOxley, I really don't give a flip about that law. I don't see how it rationally could apply here, and Apple's invoking of it (or others' invoking of it on Apple's behalf) merely constitutes a cheap excuse to justify repeated bad acts.
I think the pro-Apple-charging folk here and elsewhere on the board are missing a very essential point made by this thread starter, as well as by others, and that is a grievance with Apple over paying for the same kind of updates on an Touch that would nominally be free in any other kind of context. We don't pay for updates to software (generally), nor to our OSs, nor the bundled apps on our Macs.
What is so absolutely hard for you folks to get through your heads about this? The OP and myself are not saying "We shouldn't have to pay for new apps, or new releases of apps," but "We shouldn't have to keep paying every time Apple revises their stuff."
As regards the often-sited SarbanesOxley, I really don't give a flip about that law. I don't see how it rationally could apply here, and Apple's invoking of it (or others' invoking of it on Apple's behalf) merely constitutes a cheap excuse to justify repeated bad acts.
To be technical... we don't always pay for firmware updates... the minor ones but, the BIG updates, yeah we have to pay for them... we also pay for major OS updates too... Leopard wasn't free for Tiger users now was it? Leopard has better features and it's faster but, it's still basically an enhanced version of Tiger isn't it? You guys are being babies about it... it's a small price to pay for such a great product.... nobody's forcing you to upgrade from 1.1.2.
Edit: Plus, you knew exactly what you were getting when you before you purchased the damn thing... didn't you read the specs? You got exactly what you paid for. No more, no less.
If $20 updates come out every five months, it would take 6 years and 3 months to pay more for software upgrades than even the smallest-capacity iPod touch...
I haven't heard anyone say they were in favor of Apple charging for these upgrades, only that they understood why. You may not "give a flip" about SOX compliance, but Apple has to care.
The problem is that they're doing more than just revising. They're giving you new stuff as well. And the last time I checked, every iPod had received free software updates to fix bugs and problems. But no other iPod in the past has really received any new features with free software updates, just bug fixes.
Gapless Playback and Games were major updates that came for free for 5th gen iPod owners.
iPods had games before that, they just weren't able to be sold. This isn't really adding a new feature to the device. And the last time I checked, Apple makes money off of selling those games...
Now I do realize that you're gonna flame me about how they'll make money off of the app store, which is true. BUT, we already know of enterprise features on 2.0 and there will problably be more revealed at WWDC. But you talk like the only thing in 2.0 is the AppStore before you've even seen the beta of the damn firmware, so I'm putting on my flame jacket...
And those of us tied to the iTMS?
I may go back to a standard iPod Classic, so I don't have to deal with this bull****.
Of course, I'm waiting a few weeks after the SDK to see if it's worth whatever price it'll cost me.
Edit: Akonradi, the price is all fine and well for Enterprise Users, but can't they sell the Enterprise features as an activation seperately from the App Store like they did the apps, though they were included in the 1.1.3? For those of us who don't need those features?
The problem with this though is that you're not paying for many updates. Only one of the iPod Touch's firmware updates so far has been pay to use; the rest were free to upgrade. You're not paying for bug fixes in these firmware updates, and you can still update to 1.1.3 without buying anything; what you're paying for is new applications which were previously totally unavailable. The incremental updates to Mac OS X are similar to these bug fix only firmware updates.
The January Software upgrade is theoretically equivalent to upgrading from Tiger to Leopard. You certainly don't get new functionality from the incremental updates like 1.1.4 and 10.4.11, but you do from the paid upgrades, like Leopard and the five apps.
You aren't paying for firmware updates for the iPod touch, you're paying for additional functionality not previously offered in any way - legally. The 2.0 update is going to be largely the same; you're going to be paying for new functionality (not updates and bug fixes, though I have no doubt that there will be updates and bug fixes), such as Exchange server support, and the ability to run third-party applications.
Please tell me the problem you find with this.
No, the January software update was nowhere near a Tiger to Leopard upgrade. If anything it was akin to buying iLife. That was fine. New Macs come with iLife, new iPod Touches come with the January Apps.
Now, firmware 2.0 consists of, from what we know, updates to those "iLife" applications and the Appstore. Are the applications that outdated that they require a new version already? Or, should Apple have included these features form the get-go?
So, given that these are minor updates to Applications we have already purchased, should we be buying the privilege to use Apple's AppStore?
anyone?
Anyone find the answer to this? Is there really no "don't remind me again" button? I was really hoping I was just missing it. How do I make it not remind me anymore. I know 2.0 is there, and I'll get it when I'm good and ready.
Anyone find the answer to this? Is there really no "don't remind me again" button? I was really hoping I was just missing it. How do I make it not remind me anymore. I know 2.0 is there, and I'll get it when I'm good and ready.
But can't Apple charge whatever they want?
SOX is not an excuse. If Apple had to charge users for the updates, then why not charge $.99 or something? So why charge so much more?
And for those who say "don't buy it!," that's not an option. There are those who like the iPod touch more than any other comparable device, but want it to be improved. What's wrong with that?
Upgrade fee kind of pisses me off
I stumbled on this forum as a result of searching on ipod touch firmware upgrades. I just got off the phone with apple and frankly I'm a little pissed.
Backstory: I bought a Macbook Air (1.8,SSD) AND a Ipod touch 16gb this week. Needless to say, this was a pretty big purchase for me.
Anyways, got the macbook air setup and go and sync the ipod touch for the first time. It tells me that there is a firmware upgrade, so I go to update it and guess what, I have to pay $10!
Now $10 is not going to break me or anything, but it's the principle of the thing. Why should I have to pay $10 to "upgrade" a BRAND NEW ipod? I can kind of understand if it was purchased previously and apple was charging $10 for increased functionality, but this is a brand new unit! It should either come with the latest firmware or allow me to upgrade to it -- free. After all, I just spent a huge chunk of change for apple gear, why should I need to pay $10 more on day 1?
I'm not an fanboi (either pro or con), but simply uses computers as tools. In some instances my PCs work better, in other instances the mac. This air will primarily be used as my travel laptop. Speaking as an mostly unbiased person, I think apple needs to be careful of spoiling the image they have worked so hard to create. I see more and more media outlets starting to portray apple as the (next) evil empire as opposed to the free-spirited independent image they've worked so hard to create.
This nickel and dime stuff may end up backfiring on them.
rant off.
I stumbled on this forum as a result of searching on ipod touch firmware upgrades. I just got off the phone with apple and frankly I'm a little pissed.
Backstory: I bought a Macbook Air (1.8,SSD) AND a Ipod touch 16gb this week. Needless to say, this was a pretty big purchase for me.
Anyways, got the macbook air setup and go and sync the ipod touch for the first time. It tells me that there is a firmware upgrade, so I go to update it and guess what, I have to pay $10!
Now $10 is not going to break me or anything, but it's the principle of the thing. Why should I have to pay $10 to "upgrade" a BRAND NEW ipod? I can kind of understand if it was purchased previously and apple was charging $10 for increased functionality, but this is a brand new unit! It should either come with the latest firmware or allow me to upgrade to it -- free. After all, I just spent a huge chunk of change for apple gear, why should I need to pay $10 more on day 1?
I'm not an fanboi (either pro or con), but simply uses computers as tools. In some instances my PCs work better, in other instances the mac. This air will primarily be used as my travel laptop. Speaking as an mostly unbiased person, I think apple needs to be careful of spoiling the image they have worked so hard to create. I see more and more media outlets starting to portray apple as the (next) evil empire as opposed to the free-spirited independent image they've worked so hard to create.
This nickel and dime stuff may end up backfiring on them.
rant off.
The problem you've got is that it states very clearly on the Apple website that the iPod Touch comes with the v1 software and that you have to pay for v2. If they were shipping new ones with the v2 software you'd have an argument, but they aren't so you don't.
I agree its annoying but not sure there is much you can do or say.
I agree its annoying but not sure there is much you can do or say.
Other solution: If you don't wanna pay... PIRATE! jk
But you can get 2.0 for free. Youtube it.