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I have no sympathy for woman who get beat down. THEY chose to be with a guy who beat them instead of with a guy who does not. THEY chose to stay with the guy who beat them instead of leaving.

In fact, real men (not hypocritical *****) know very well much the terrible truth which makes it so that all ******* and abusive guys are always with women, and those who complain or are shocked by it usually are alone...
 
I have no sympathy for woman who get beat down. THEY chose to be with a guy who beat them instead of with a guy who does not. THEY chose to stay with the guy who beat them instead of leaving.

In fact, real men (not hypocritical *****) know very well much the terrible truth which makes it so that all ******* and abusive guys are always with women, and those who complain or are shocked by it usually are alone...

You are a dumba$$.
You have no idea what is happening in these peoples lives. You have no idea about the mental anguish they go through. You have no idea about the threats to family, children, friends pets etc these people have to live with.
 
Seriously? 25 years later? My god, whats wrong with you people? How can any human beign judge someone for what they did 25 years ago? I'm pretty sure this is just because he's famous. There's no way you would judge a family member or a friend for what they did TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO!
This isn't because he's famous. It's because he's black. If he was a white guy who molested young girls like Duggar, the same people on this site would be breaking their necks to justify why the man shouldn't be judged by others.
 
Yeah, Apple's statement on behalf of a rapper. Just something about this is so surreal – in a bad way.
Once again Apple's hypocrisy is on display. Prior to buying into, and supporting the Thug Life while chasing the almighty dollar, Apple acted holier than thou with their tightly controlled restrictions over allowable content on iTunes.

Funny how far the old guys in Cupertino will go to continue to be perceived as "cool", as they rake in obscene amounts of money.
 
This isn't because he's famous. It's because he's black. If he was a white guy who molested young girls like Duggar, the same people on this site would be breaking their necks to justify why the man shouldn't be judged by others.
No. Duggar should be behind bars. You are promoting racism by lumping everyone together. You're no better than the people you are putting down.
 
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Once again Apple's hypocrisy is on display. Prior to buying into, and supporting the Thug Life while chasing the almighty dollar, Apple acted holier than thou with their tightly controlled restrictions over allowable content on iTunes.

are you talking pre-2003/itunes/ipod.. or after?

 
If a court of criminal law has the notion of a statute of limitations, should not the court of popular opinion have one as well?

Considering he already paid for his crime (in the criminal court system), seems statute doesn't even apply. But, dredging up corpses for media consumption, that sure does exist.
 
I appreciate your post which made me chuckle. But just because a bunch of bought-off gimps in a big room in Washington D.C. don't bother allocating money to fixing bridges and paving roads, doesn't mean that the "mainstream media" couldn't have conspired to induce widespread urban violence and racial animosity across America by introducing hate propaganda in the form of gangsta rap. In fact, that's exactly what happened.


It is very sad that people like you believe their own BS lol
 
Titles streamline the process of presenting credentials. These titles help us understand who has demonstrated expertise and who has not. It doesn't tell you where or why they have the title, because that is what the credentials are for. I've never seen a title on a driver license, but I have seen one on a dinner reservation. If someone went through the effort to earn the title I will respect that and use it when addressing them.

I think this conversation proves that titles do not streamline the process of presenting credentials at all, because they have no context and thus no way to verify them.

Credentials need context. A resume. A bio on a publication or presentation. A business listing. Whatever. There is a difference between meeting a random person who insists on being called "doctor" and seeing a guy listed as a doctor on a hospital website, or seeing a guy give a presentation on a healthcare topic where he is listed in the program as a doctor. A title alone only lets me know what the person in front of me wants to be called, not his credentials.

Also, you know the saying? What do you call a guy who was last in his class in med school? Doctor.

Again, you can have pride in your accomplishments, celebrate them, hang them on your wall, whatever. But titles are a pointless anachronism.
 
Because thats not the story the film makers chose to tell.

It has nothing to do with trying to hide it.

If you knew how films are made, you would realize there is a lot they didnt have time for. It was a movie not a book.

Like it was quoted by someone, you can tell ten different stories about NWA, and this particular version is one they decided to tell. There are lots of stuff and details they omitted. Usually stories have a thesis they follow. Its not a documentary.

Even further, its obviously not a mainstream thing to show such violence, its so wrong, no need to remind people, including the victims.

I don't think a victim of a beating wants to see it dramatized to all the public of the world.

That is such a weird criticism.

What is really happening, the real motive to bring this up is that woman is an attention whore. Wants to bank off the release.

Pure and simple.
You know I had a few good things to say but it seems people best me to it. It seems every time you quote me you post ridiculousness. Do me a favor and just don't quote me at all. If it makes it easier I can just block you. Headache averted. Do let me know what you choose.
 
Once again Apple's hypocrisy is on display. Prior to buying into, and supporting the Thug Life while chasing the almighty dollar, Apple acted holier than thou with their tightly controlled restrictions over allowable content on iTunes.

Funny how far the old guys in Cupertino will go to continue to be perceived as "cool", as they rake in obscene amounts of money.
I'm still waiting for an official pr0nhub app.
 
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This isn't because he's famous. It's because he's black. If he was a white guy who molested young girls like Duggar, the same people on this site would be breaking their necks to justify why the man shouldn't be judged by others.
Are you.... Serious? What on earth? WHO is defending dugger? Who? Where is this coming from. I don't even....
 
I have no sympathy for woman who get beat down. THEY chose to be with a guy who beat them instead of with a guy who does not. THEY chose to stay with the guy who beat them instead of leaving.

In fact, real men (not hypocritical *****) know very well much the terrible truth which makes it so that all ******* and abusive guys are always with women, and those who complain or are shocked by it usually are alone...
Unfortunately money can be a driving factor. Guy promises you the world. You have four kids. You're home raising them. He beats you a few times here and there. You work up the courage to leave him. And then what? Not everyone has somewhere to go. And even those that do, perhaps there are psychological reason you are unaware of keeping them there. It's fine you don't have sympathy I guess. Most people in this situation probably don't want it anyway. It's sad to me you presume to know how each and every absurd person lives their life though.
 
I have no sympathy for woman who get beat down. THEY chose to be with a guy who beat them instead of with a guy who does not. THEY chose to stay with the guy who beat them instead of leaving.

In fact, real men (not hypocritical *****) know very well much the terrible truth which makes it so that all ******* and abusive guys are always with women, and those who complain or are shocked by it usually are alone...

this is true

if anyone knows anything about psychology, they know these women, especially ghetto ones, are attracted to this type of drama.

The danger turns them on.

This is more common than not in todays polygamist and rape culture society. Which was pioneered and popularized in the same era, the 90s.

its 2015 now. and the internet has run its course. Most of you are out of touch. This is what is normal now. Society is messed up beyond belief. They are just a reflection of the culture at large.

I mostly blame the internet, liberals, feminists, rap and social justice warriors.
 
this is true

if anyone knows anything about psychology, they know these women, especially ghetto ones, are attracted to this type of drama.

The danger turns them on.

This is more common than not in todays polygamist and rape culture society. Which was pioneered and popularized in the same era, the 90s.

its 2015 now. and the internet has run its course. Most of you are out of touch. This is what is normal now. Society is messed up beyond belief. They are just a reflection of the culture at large.

I mostly blame the internet, liberals, feminists, rap and social justice warriors.

And you're calling everyone else "out of touch" :rolleyes:
 
You are a dumba$$.
You have no idea what is happening in these peoples lives. You have no idea about the mental anguish they go through. You have no idea about the threats to family, children, friends pets etc these people have to live with.

Yeah the usual BS argument, and yet YOU know their mental anguish or the threats to the family? But the actual facts, not the BS feminist propaganda, is that most of the time reality doesn't look anything like cliché movies and advertisement that display a violent man (always) who's sole purpose would somehow be to beat his family...

In real life, women are as abusive, both mentally or physically, and I also have no pity for men who stay with them and then complain, in fact there are WAY MORE mothers who are abusive to their child than dads. And in fact children are the reason WHY these stupid women and men who CHOSE to go for an abusive person are as much responsible.
 
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this is true

if anyone knows anything about psychology, they know these women, especially ghetto ones, are attracted to this type of drama.

The danger turns them on.

This is more common than not in todays polygamist and rape culture society. Which was pioneered and popularized in the same era, the 90s.

its 2015 now. and the internet has run its course. Most of you are out of touch. This is what is normal now. Society is messed up beyond belief. They are just a reflection of the culture at large.

I mostly blame the internet, liberals, feminists, rap and social justice warriors.

It's good to know there are intelligent people who can think by themselves, not the medias, like you and I.
 
Unfortunately money can be a driving factor. Guy promises you the world. You have four kids. You're home raising them. He beats you a few times here and there. You work up the courage to leave him. And then what? Not everyone has somewhere to go. And even those that do, perhaps there are psychological reason you are unaware of keeping them there. It's fine you don't have sympathy I guess. Most people in this situation probably don't want it anyway. It's sad to me you presume to know how each and every absurd person lives their life though.

While I agree with you since you're a reasonable person with actual arguments, the problem is in your first statement, which is true: money is a driving factor.

But how is that acceptable in the current so-called modern, liberal, independent-women world that one would chose partner according to one's money? The truth is happiness, education and values are what matters most when building a family, both for the spouses and for the kids.

So again, I have no sympathy for women who instead chose someone because he has money or prospects, and not because he will give love, educate and take well care of his family. This goes to say, I have absolute despise for men taking advantage of this but the biggest drama of equality, feminism and all this **** is that 99% of the time women give attention, reason and power to the superficial and abusive values, in fact they DRIVE most men to that.

Should we blame this on the persons, or the nature? I'm afraid that if it's nature and so we can't blame anyone, it also mean we can't blame men for taking advantage or even sometimes complying to these attitudes.
 
While I agree with you since you're a reasonable person with actual arguments, the problem is in your first statement, which is true: money is a driving factor.

But how is that acceptable in the current so-called modern, liberal, independent-women world that one would chose partner according to one's money? The truth is happiness, education and values are what matters most when building a family, both for the spouses and for the kids.

So again, I have no sympathy for women who instead chose someone because he has money or prospects, and not because he will give love, educate and take well care of his family. This goes to say, I have absolute despise for men taking advantage of this but the biggest drama of equality, feminism and all this **** is that 99% of the time women give attention, reason and power to the superficial and abusive values, in fact they DRIVE most men to that.

Should we blame this on the persons, or the nature? I'm afraid that if it's nature and so we can't blame anyone, it also mean we can't blame men for taking advantage or even sometimes complying to these attitudes.
I should have been more clear. When I said money is a driving factor it was because we can't live without money; I did. It mean to imply people are staying with some rich sbusive guy. While that does happen, this isn't the average domestic abuse case. I think you'll find a large fraction of these people are already living at or near the poverty level. It's great to say "just leave", but when the alternative is being on the street, it's often a worse alternative, especially for those with kids.

I don't presume to know everyone's situation. In fact, that is what I am trying to warn others against. Let's not lump everyone into one generic category and presume to know what's going on. I'm seeing people (not necessarily you) making psychology arguments. Unless these people have worked with abused folks or have some sort of corresponding degree in the matter, the fact that they read some article on buzzfeed does not imply that they know anything about psychology.

By the way, my mom was in an abusive relationship and she left my father. It was incredibly rough growing up because she came to this country speaking zero words of English and was dropped on her ass three years later. She made it work and left, for me, so in sympathetic. But not everyone else is able to make this leap financially. She was lucky to have my grandmother to move in with her and help take care of me while she worked. She likely wouldn't have been able to do what she did otherwise.
 
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I should have been more clear. When I said money is a driving factor it was because we can't live without money; I did. It mean to imply people are staying with some rich sbusive guy. While that does happen, this isn't the average domestic abuse case. I think you'll find a large fraction of these people are already living at or near the poverty level. It's great to say "just leave", but when the alternative is being on the street, it's often a worse alternative, especially for those with kids.

I don't presume to know everyone's situation. In fact, that is what I am trying to warn others against. Let's not lump everyone into one generic category and presume to know what's going on. I'm seeing people (not necessarily you) making psychology arguments. Unless these people have worked with abused folks or have some sort of corresponding degree in the matter, the fact that they read some article on buzzfeed does not imply that they know anything about psychology.

By the way, my mom was in an abusive relationship and she left my father. It was incredibly rough growing up because she came to this country speaking zero words of English and was dropped on her ass three years later. She made it work and left, for me, so in sympathetic. But not everyone else is able to make this leap financially. She was lucky to have my grandmother to move in with her and help take care of me while she worked. She likely wouldn't have been able to do what she did otherwise.

This should be the fringe situation, women being both in dire situation, having children to take for, no laws to protect her (remember the alimonies, child support and such) and in an abusive relationship. Yet we always see the man depicted as an abuser, never the women, and we ONLY blame the man.

Problem is feminism is promoting superficiality (of course in an insidious way like all propaganda, it pretends something, twists facts, numbers, rational and logic to sell you something else, and the indirect but large and spread impact turns out to be negative or even the contrary to what it pretends), and lots of women are complaining not just about abuse, but also *******s, bad sex, not being happy when in truth they're most of the time responsible for their bad choices.

Of course there are circonstances, but the fact that your mum left your abusive dad, worked her ass off to still manage to give you a good education and opportunity is the most admirable thing that most women are not and will never do. Because as I said, a relation, the choice of partner, and the choice at some point to leave someone is not about the adults, it's about the kids. Most women don't even take this responsibility, way more mums are abusive with their kids then dad, and yet there's a complete inequality in the law.

So as much as we can't brush all people the same, we can and we should absolutely blame how medias are promoting this situation, and how many women are creating it for themselves in varying degrees. I don't believe for one second that these women who say they were abused by Dre went out with him because he was nice, cool, loving, intelligent etc...they went out with him because he was starting to be famous, was a "bad boy" and an *******: they deserved every abuses that came their way, and still they didn't left.
 
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