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Cut it out, ladies.
So never use e-mail, never use GMail, Yahoo Mail, Hotmail, etc. Because folks ALL that contact info is stored online. ALL of your mail is search-able ANYWAY... Jeeze the over-reaction is mind boggling. Or stupid. Or both.
The app works perfectly as far as I can see, and it WILL save me some time.
This thread is filled with blind ignorance and stupidity. There is no polite way to look at it. It's stunning. I used the Jott service for a while. Guess what... it uploads my voice transcriptions to their server, and they send me back text. The Google Mobile app does the same thing, when it records the audio and sends it back to their servers from analysis. I was actually hoping for a while, that some service would provide streaming mp3 text-to-speech audio from a web server, after you post text to it (but then the 3Gs seems capable of synthesizing speech by itself (without the aid of hardcore servers offloading the task).

I wish the people who are mouthing off about privacy might reconsider posting their multiple-exclamation mark comments. There's raising valid points, and then there's wearing a tin-foil hat. I could describe the privacy policies of a number of apps in the app store that are 100 times more intrusive... BY DESIGN. No one is hiding anything, and no one told you to download it.

The only reason why I sound this harsh, is that I feel BAD for companies making a product available for FREE... only to incur such a dissappointing wave of ignorance. They didn't have to provide a EULA at the beginning, if they wanted to fool you. Bright, large "I Agree" button too. If you don't... hit the home button, and delete the app. Super-easy.
And improved on their technology, to an enormous extent.
I can't help thinking they just threw it out, and used other translating technology. I'm left thinking Jott was a purchase more for other technology (like making it phone-based), talent/engineers, and business relationships.

~ CB
 
I can't help thinking they just threw it out, and used other translating technology. I'm left thinking Jott was a purchase more for other technology (like making it phone-based), talent/engineers, and business relationships.

Agreed, this would seem the simplest way to avoid conflicts of interest and with IP down the road.

Besides, why reinvent the wheel when you have a resource of this nature and experience available to recruit?

Whatever the circumstances happen to be, this app is remarkably useful. Speak silly words, such as "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious," and there it appears, in less than a second.

This will soon be regarded as a killer app for sending out e-mail, memos, orders, etc.

Get is while its free.
 
Some of you are just retarded. /Facepalm

If this scares you becasue of its "privacy issues", then you should seriously think about what other companies like Google are doing with your info. Go delete all your google, gmail and wave accounts before you get paranoid about this lil' harmless app's EULA.

Now, the app works great and recognizes at least 95% of the time. Plus, the system to select text is quite nice (too bad apple didnt come out with it though(.
 
slightly off-topic, or rather on-topic but not specifically about this app:
i do not think it's a question of how important one sees oneself. it is more an issue of "do i want people (companies, governments etc) to collect info about me? why do they do this? what will they do with the info?"
i find it interesting to see many young people posting their data on the web without a care (home addresses, phone numbers, address books, etc) and i can understand that they see no harm in it. but for those who have lived in other systems and/or other times, it is a very sensitive issue. believe me: after growing up in a totalitarian state and knowing that every private meeting, every conversation was being noted, and records kept about who you were communicating with... i understand people not wanting their private data uploaded to a faceless company's computers. they promise not to pass it on, but you can no longer control this. people in many countries have ended up in jail and concentration camps because of these records of their activity.

no i am NOT saying this app is dangerous, and happily most of us are not living in totalitarian states, but caution is healthy. times change, systems change, presidents change, companies get sold and bought - along with their records.
best regards
B
Agreed

It really is sad. So many on just this thread alone have stated I don't care if it catalogs my contacts, but they fail to ponder whether or not their contacts might care. Why don't you all text your friends and family first, and ask if they care if you give their names to a company because it "needs" them?

Speaking of names, what exactly makes this a requirement? I mean their are plenty of name dictionaries, available online, why do they need them from your phone? John Doe , might be troublesome from a last name standpoint, but really if they are uploading your entire voice file to their servers for transcription what does it matter? It is not like their are thousands of other potential words that this "service" might not recognize, why do they need your files to "fix" that.

I realize that in public we have no privacy, but this is a device that most people consider private, otherwise why don't all of you who don't care just go ahead and post ALL of YOUR personal info here online.

The proliferation of cameras is a good example, sure it seems innocuous, but
there is a reason that most minors and many adults have private accounts on social networking sites, because access to your name, likeness, and other personally identifiable info is not necessarily wise to disclose, to anyone and everyone. You can call it paranoid, and put us down for pointing it out, but if you ever do have your identity stolen, or your friends and family angry at you because they mysteriously start getting email, or phone calls from telemarketers, I suggest you look at history, and see how virtually every promise made of this nature is eventually broken, or their server is eventually hacked. I also suggest you not complain to anyone because you have been warned, and you laughed it off, because you totally trust a company offering you something for "nothing"
 
I did not look through the 114 replies but you need a mic for your touch. Just buy a pair of iphone headphones with the mic and you're set.

Nope. The 3G Touch comes with the mic and the app won't install. I can't even view the Dragon Dictation app in the App Store from the Touch. Something in restricting the Touch from using the app.



Sent an email stating that the Touch does have recording capability and wifi connectivity while asking what restrictions hardware wise limit the app to the iPhone.

Let's hope I get a fairly clear and reasonable answer.

Got an answer back and seems like it is coming to the Touch in the near future, but still doesn't give a reason for why the Touch is excluded.

Hello Brian,

Thanks for your interest in the Dragon Dictation for iPod touch. Nuance
is actively looking into the serving this request & we will provide an
update on the availability of Dragon Dictation on iPod Touch very soon.

Regards,
Dragon Dictation Team
 
I'm a bit pissed because this app is not available in the Swiss app store yet. Why is Apple jumping on that stupid restriction bandwagon that's chocking of the mighty interweb?

Alright, it's not Apple's fault.
 
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Nuance Communications today announced the release of Dragon Dictation [App Store, Free for a limited time], a new voice transcription application for the iPhone. The application, which relies on the Dragon NaturallySpeaking speech recognition engine to transcribe voice input to text, allows users to easily send transcribed text to new e-mail or text messages or save it to the clipboard for pasting into other applications.
With the Dragon Dictation App, spoken words are instantly transcribed using the world-renowned power of Dragon NaturallySpeaking speech recognition, giving anyone the power to simply "say anything" up to five times faster than typing. Dragon Dictation allows users to speak anything from a one-line text message or status update for Facebook, to a multi-paragraph e-mail. For instance, simply say, "We should meet at the restaurant at 7 and then go to the movies. I'll pick up Scott in Cupertino after he gets off work. See you then." Users can start and stop as needed or just speak free form to capture a quick brainstorm idea or reminder. It's completely up to you.
The application works by transmitting spoken input to Nuance's central servers, where it is processed by the transcription algorithms and returned to the user's device. Consequently, the application does requires a data connection in order to function.

The application offers editing options including alternative suggestions for misinterpreted phrases and built-in keyboard functionality for manual editing of text. The application also offers voice corrections, allowing users to highlight a selected portion of text and replace it with newly-spoken phrases.

Several users have noted a potential privacy issue with Dragon Dictation, however, with a number of iTunes Store user reviews noting that the license agreement for the application reveals that data from users' lists of contacts will be sent to Nuance and stored on its servers.

Dragon Dictation is free for a limited time, and Nuance will in the near future be releasing Dragon Search, a second iPhone application allowing users to conduct voice searches of a number of sources including search engines, YouTube, Twitter, iTunes, and Wikipedia.

Article Link: 'Dragon Dictation' Brings Voice Transcription to the iPhone

When is it coming to iTunes uk ??? Or is it not !!!!
 
People that have a problem with uploading *names* within their contact list to an external server are being downright silly.

Wait a minute. I remember hearing that Nuance shot JFK. Maybe they have a point.
 
Does anyone know when Voice Control will support other languages? (i am interested in Greek especially but any bit of information will do)
 
Cut it out, ladies.
So never use e-mail, never use GMail, Yahoo Mail, Hotmail, etc. Because folks ALL that contact info is stored online. ALL of your mail is search-able ANYWAY... Jeeze the over-reaction is mind boggling. Or stupid. Or both.
The only e-mail of mine that is received by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc. is spam. They are my junk mail accounts. The rest of my personal/work e-mail goes to privately hosted servers. My e-mail is not directly searchable anywhere online. I do not send work-related e-mails to any accounts that are not privately hosted.

Many companies consider their contact lists to be their intellectual property.

I am legally bound to protect many of the recordings I would like to make and transcribe.

Being ignorant about personal privacy is BOTH mind boggling and stupid.
The app works perfectly as far as I can see, and it WILL save me some time.
Don't care about your opinion.
And this from Nuance's Web Site:

[...]

Even though there is no personally identifying information, we still treat all of this information with the highest privacy standards. All of our servers are located in the United States and meet the most stringent privacy and security standards. We conform to these high standards because we use the same data centers for other areas of our business where we are required to store personal information.
Bunch of gibberish that provides zero legal protections. What "standards"?
All of this is spelled out in our license agreement that comes with the Dragon Dictation for the iPhone application. Since most people only see that license agreement briefly when they are installing the software (and they usually can't wait to start using their software, so they don't spend 30 minutes reading a complex legal document...), we provided a link to that agreement here: http://www.nuance.com/company/privacy/.
Except this isn't the agreement in the software!
So the bottom line is that nothing scary is happening with your data and we only use a little bit of information from your phone to help make the dictation accuracy as high as possible. If you have any questions, comments or concerns, feel free to post them here.
I suspect whoever from Nuance posted this didn't talk with their lawyer first. There is also a lack of information on what protection is provided to your speech data. Nuance does seem to be trying to respond to this as quickly as possible though.
 
Can I still keep my phone? Apps that steal your information should be illegal; it is akin to a phone tap.

Maybe i'ts agood idea to start a website listing all suspected apps that steal information. An early warning system for these sort of apps seems ever more nescesary since more personal info is stored on your phone. Or even better: Little Snitch for iPhone! ;)
 
Voice Dialing would be a nice addition to this App

It would be a lot better in my opinion if you could select a name from your contact list by using your voice. This way you wouldnt have to click anything while you are driving. Did anyone read the article? They dont save any of your contact's numbers or e-mail addresses, they are just saving the names so that they can correct your texts.
 
My guess as to why this app will store your contacts is mostly on the practical side rather than the nefarious one. Once the app is paid they'll probably add features, and wouldn't it be great if after dictating a message you could just say something like, send as text to so and so, or send as email to so and so. And the only way for this to work would be if they knew the person and the contact info for that person. I don't like talking on the phone when driving because I can often get stuck on the phone for a long time, and I never text while driving, so the ability to dictate a text AND SEND IT while never taking my eyes off the road is perfect and probably what they have in mind down the road.

Oh and as far as them releasing info upon a subpoena, just about everything from your email provider to your bank would do that, it's the purpose of a subpoena, to mandate that anyone holding your info release it to the authorities, I'd be less concerned with them disclosing it, and more concerned with what on earth do you do that would have people getting subpoena's on you???

To bad your post is mostly wasted effort since you didn't bother to read that only contact NAMES are stored,no addresses,numbers.
 
Poor Neo

What use of it when it's not available in the European App Store!

Apple, the most non-American of all american companies, is making itself no favor by rendering such obvious US-favouritism.

The application will either never appear in European iTunes stores, or not before it costs a good measure! Idiocy!

Here we go, as ever: RedNeck-centrism* persists in iTunes!






* To pacify some who might find my notion disagreeable, I allow that not all americans are rednecks, but I'm sure most are.


Nota Bene: It's also quite irritating that OS X Dictionary and spell checker prefer to "-ize" all verbs ending with "-ise". Next, the word "Gentleman" will give way to "dude" and "lady" to "*****". The word "gay" will find an official connotation that has nothing to do with either gaiety or homosexuality and start meaning "undesired" or "bad" or "of poor quality" or "strange" (that's quite an extensive semantical range!)


Poor NeoNobillis,it must really suck to live in a pathetic,insignificant,inferior country.Nuy a Nokia.
 
The only e-mail of mine that is received by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc. is spam. They are my junk mail accounts. The rest of my personal/work e-mail goes to privately hosted servers. My e-mail is not directly searchable anywhere online. I do not send work-related e-mails to any accounts that are not privately hosted.

Many companies consider their contact lists to be their intellectual property.

I am legally bound to protect many of the recordings I would like to make and transcribe.

Being ignorant about personal privacy is BOTH mind boggling and stupid.

Don't care about your opinion.

Bunch of gibberish that provides zero legal protections. What "standards"?

Except this isn't the agreement in the software!

I suspect whoever from Nuance posted this didn't talk with their lawyer first. There is also a lack of information on what protection is provided to your speech data. Nuance does seem to be trying to respond to this as quickly as possible though.

So don't download it :]
the EULA tells you what it uses (contact names) before you use the app. Since you obviously wouldn't agree to the terms there's really nothing more to it.
 
Maybe i'ts agood idea to start a website listing all suspected apps that steal information. An early warning system for these sort of apps seems ever more nescesary since more personal info is stored on your phone. Or even better: Little Snitch for iPhone! ;)

Too bad this app isn't stealing info ;]
It tells you plain as day that it uses your contact names.
 
Many companies consider their contact lists to be their intellectual property.

I am legally bound to protect many of the recordings I would like to make and transcribe.
Do you have five locks on your door as well?

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Once again, they only store *names* within your contact list. If you're that protective of something as simple as names within your contact list, maybe you should be evaluating your life instead of this software. :rolleyes:

Psssttt...you don't happen to have Jimmy Hoffa on your contact list do you? Eh...never mind.

BTW...since your contact list is only sent once to Nuance, how about doing this:

1. Turn off contact sync'ing in MobileMe
2. Delete all contacts on your iPhone.
3. Install the Nuance app. (and use it).
4. Re-sync your iPhone and turn MM sync'ing back on.

Problem solved! :D
 
Originally Posted by LeoNobilis
What use of it when it's not available in the European App Store!
Dude! You guys were the first to get hairy-legged chicks and beer and stuff like that! How about letting us be the first to get an insignificant app!
 
Do you have five locks on your door as well?

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Once again, they only store *names* within your contact list. If you're that protective of something as simple as names within your contact list, maybe you should be evaluating your life instead of this software. :rolleyes:

Psssttt...you don't happen to have Jimmy Hoffa on your contact list do you? Eh...never mind.

BTW...since your contact list is only sent once to Nuance, how about doing this:

1. Turn off contact sync'ing in MobileMe
2. Delete all contacts on your iPhone.
3. Install the Nuance app. (and use it).
4. Re-sync your iPhone and turn MM sync'ing back on.

Problem solved! :D

You forgot one tiny little point. All voice dictation is uploaded and stored on Nuance's servers. Since it sounds like pmjoe is worried about attorney-client (or doctor-patient) priviledge, uploading a dictated client letter to the server for example would be a breach of this priviledge as the information has now left the attorney's control.
 
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