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Drake's 'Views' Album Becomes First to Reach Over 1 Billion Streams on Apple Music

steve333 said:
Barely charted? The charts were full of rock bands and songs, you're talking about the late 50s and early 60s.




You're listing singers, I'm talking about bands that wrote music. Real music.
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You do realize that a lot of the singers I listed not only play instruments, but also wrote and still write music? Mariah Carey (although I didn't list her) has the most number 1 songs by any artist, all wrote by her. She's second overall to The Beatles. A lot of bands...actually all bands (other than The Beatles) can't even begin to claim that. You talking real music? Dude "real music" is nothing short of an opinion.

I saw somebody on here say that rap wasn't real music. Says who? It's an opinion. And Lady Gaga not only writes her own music, not only has written for other artists, not only plays instruments, but she actually also studied at the NYU Tisch School of The Arts before leaving to focus on her career.

Sia is another person who writes music not only for herself but for others too. But music talent isn't just writing music, its overall performing. When it comes to just overall singing talent and musicianship, I regard Whitney Houston as the greatest to ever step to a mic. I still study Whitney's singing. Her vibrato, phrasing, sustaining of notes, etc...amazing. But that's my opinion. You may disagree and that's ok.

"Real music" and "real artists" is subjective. IMO the artists that I listed above are real singers and musicians
 
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JayIsAwesome said:
You do realize that a lot of the singers I listed not only play instruments, but also wrote and still write music? Mariah Carey (although I didn't list her) has the most number 1 songs by any artist, all wrote by her. She's second overall to The Beatles. A lot of bands...actually all bands (other than The Beatles) can't even begin to claim that. You talking real music? Dude "real music" is nothing short of an opinion.

I saw somebody on here say that rap wasn't real music. Says who? It's an opinion. And Lady Gaga not only writes her own music, not only has written for other artists, not only plays instruments, but she actually also studied at the NYU Tisch School of The Arts before leaving to focus on her career.

Sia is another person who writes music not only for herself but for others too. But music talent isn't just writing music, its overall performing. When it comes to just overall singing talent and musicianship, I regard Whitney Houston as the greatest to ever step to a mic. I still study Whitney's singing. Her vibrato, phrasing, sustaining of notes, etc...amazing. But that's my opinion. You may disagree and that's ok.

"Real music" and "real artists" is subjective. IMO the artists that I listed above are real singers and musicians
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I have never read that Mariah Carey wrote her songs, not sure that is correct.
gaga can sing, no question.
My point still stands, compared to the orgy of good music in the decades I grew up in-the rock bands, Motown, the Philly Soul sound, even Disco, music today is just sad.
Watch the Grammy;s-you see talent there? It's mostly a bunch of singers gyrating like strippers because they can't sign or a bunch of tone deaf rap 'singers' speaking the lyrics which half the time don't make much sense.
 
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steve333 said:
I have never read that Mariah Carey wrote her songs, not sure that is correct.
gaga can sing, no question.
My point still stands, compared to the orgy of good music in the decades I grew up in-the rock bands, Motown, the Philly Soul sound, even Disco, music today is just sad.
Watch the Grammy;s-you see talent there? It's mostly a bunch of singers gyrating like strippers because they can't sign or a bunch of tone deaf rap 'singers' speaking the lyrics which half the time don't make much sense.
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Mariah Carey has been writing her music for well over 20yrs. One of the more underrated song writers IMO. And of course music seems better "back in the day" Part of that is nostalgia. Hell back in the 50s and 60s, a lot of the artists that were out....were bashed by the older generation for not being "real music" and weren't as good as the generation before them.

I grew up in the 90s. A lot of talent back then. No question. But there were some meh artists as well. Same for today and same 50-60yrs ago.

But there's still talent going today. Is there a lot of sex being pushed to sell albums and tickets? Yeah. But the irony of you gettting annoyed by that, is that's been going on for years. It's just getting more and more risqué. Even back in your day, there were plenty of artists who gyrated, or had the looks that females loved, and used sex appeal to sell their image and albums and concert tickets. Sex sells. Always has, always will.

There's still plenty of great talent going today. Adele, Beyoncé, Kanye (he can be annoying as all hell tho), Sia, Lady Gaga. Great talents IMO, with some amazing vocal abilities
 
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dmylrea said:
You know, the state of believing that reality is anything on Youtube. The state of not watching where you are going because you're constantly staring at your smartphone. The state of truly believing you have 457 "Friends" even though you've never seen a single one of them in person. The state of labeling a boy you've never met in person and with whom you only Facetime with "Your Boyfriend". The absolute inability to "disconnect" and still be happy. The inability to stand in line at Starbucks (or ANY LINE that involves waiting) without staring at your smartphone the whole time. The list goes on and on... THAT generation.
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Ok.... you just described stuff that applies to many generations and if you change the device that the person its holding it becomes something from an older generation. Your grasps on generations is weak.
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steve333 said:
I have never read that Mariah Carey wrote her songs, not sure that is correct.
gaga can sing, no question.
My point still stands, compared to the orgy of good music in the decades I grew up in-the rock bands, Motown, the Philly Soul sound, even Disco, music today is just sad.
Watch the Grammy;s-you see talent there? It's mostly a bunch of singers gyrating like strippers because they can't sign or a bunch of tone deaf rap 'singers' speaking the lyrics which half the time don't make much sense.
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There is plenty of great indie sound, but the Hot 100 is indeed generally bad, though there are about 15% that are good to excellent.
In the 1980s I listened to American Top 40 (Kacee Kasum) which was the top of the Hot 100
and the quality in general was better (a lot less duds)
But, the worse decade for music is undoubtably the 1970s for me, a few bright lights and everything else horrible.
The Best, the 1960s and 1980s.
 
Keirasplace said:
There is plenty of great indie sound, but the Hot 100 is indeed generally bad, though there are about 15% that are good to excellent.
In the 1980s I listened to American Top 40 (Kacee Kasum) which was the top of the Hot 100
and the quality in general was better (a lot less duds)
But, the worse decade for music is undoubtably the 1970s for me, a few bright lights and everything else horrible.
The Best, the 1960s and 1980s.
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If you have iHeartRadio there is a channel dedicated to full reruns of AT40 from 1970 to 1988, all commercial free. I listen to it myself as Casey Kasem was the man.
 
dmylrea said:
You know, the state of believing that reality is anything on Youtube. The state of not watching where you are going because you're constantly staring at your smartphone. The state of truly believing you have 457 "Friends" even though you've never seen a single one of them in person. The state of labeling a boy you've never met in person and with whom you only Facetime with "Your Boyfriend". The absolute inability to "disconnect" and still be happy. The inability to stand in line at Starbucks (or ANY LINE that involves waiting) without staring at your smartphone the whole time. The list goes on and on... THAT generation.
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Absolutely killed it ... you can witness that each and everyday.
 
busyscott said:
Lol at Tim Cook writing "Thanks." He should have finished his sentence, "Thanks for making us a boat load of money and rolling over and accepting our 1/10 of 1/100 percent cut!"
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or you could just say $0.001 and if you multiply that by 1 billion downloads that is $1 million.
 
sciencesque said:
1,000,000,000 streams / 15,000,000 Apple music subscribers = an average of 67 streams per user over the course of 149 days since the release of Views. Yeah, right...
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You forgot to add the millions (or maybe even tens of millions) of people who are on a 3-month trial at any one time and will likely never pay for a streaming service. They might be streaming Drake too.
 
LordVic said:
while i'm not going to comment on "wannabes"

its one of the reasons Apple's radio is really not something I can listen to. It's all pop and hip hop whenever i turn it on. NOT genres I can just sit and listen to. it's my own personal taste, but hard rock, metal and the like is severely lacking and under-represented by Apple.

but thats not a surprise. Apple is in it for listens and making money. they are aiming for stuff that has the biggest audience appeal, not to address wide range of tastes
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Yeah, I have tried to listen to Beats 1 on a few occasions since it came out... I just cannot...

I do like some pop music, but mostly the older stuff not these "manufactured pop stars" of today... I mostly like prefer classic rock, rock, and some metal as well... none of that can be found on Beats 1...

There was a rumor a while ago that Apple would be adding a few other radio stations, Beats 2, Beats 3, etc, to focus on other genres not just the pop/hip hop centric Beats 1. But that hasn't materialized, and that's too bad...
 
Keirasplace said:
There is plenty of great indie sound, but the Hot 100 is indeed generally bad, though there are about 15% that are good to excellent.
In the 1980s I listened to American Top 40 (Kacee Kasum) which was the top of the Hot 100
and the quality in general was better (a lot less duds)
But, the worse decade for music is undoubtably the 1970s for me, a few bright lights and everything else horrible.
The Best, the 1960s and 1980s.
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Really? The 70s had The Eagles, America, pop like The Grass Roots, Grand Funk Railroad, ELO, BTO, etc etc
 
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1,000,000,000 streams


In November 2014, One Direction became the latest band to reach the milestone of one billion Spotify streams. The most popular One Direction song on Spotify is Story of My Life, the track released in October 2013, which has been streamed over 90m times around the world
 
bpeeps said:
Yep, I don't like Bieber either. So I don't listen to his music and that's that. Pretty simple.

What age bracket are you in? And which is the one you need to be in to know one of the biggest selling musicians of 2016?
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I'm 48, and I've never heard of him

Do I need to have kids? Is he like Sharon, Lois and Bram?
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dazzer21-2 said:
Presumably then, this means that 'Gangnam Style' isn't available on Apple Music...
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At least I've heard of that annoying ass song.. but not drake.
 
MacBergin said:
or you could just say $0.001 and if you multiply that by 1 billion downloads that is $1 million.
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My comment was a bit of an exaggeration, that actual amount is probably closer to $0.006. So let's assume he has received $6 million for his 1 billion streams. That may sound like a lot to you, but this is the most streamed artist on iTunes, first one to reach to a billion, and he's only making $6 million?? Just imagine the $600 checks everyone else is getting for their 100,000 streams or the $6,000 checks the really sucesful 1 million stream guys are getting! That probably covers the cost of the album artwork. Lol

Conversely, how much money is Apple making from these artists? At 17 million subscribers now (most with $10/m, but some with $15 for family plans) $255 million.... a month.
 
leroypants said:
A corporate groomed, vastly over hyped, mediocre artist, tasteless millennials have on repeat because Apple told them he's cool.
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- A Guy Who's Never Heard a Drake Album Front to Back

(Also, people have had Drake on repeat long before Apple cosigned him, he's been on the Billboard charts for 400+ consecutive weeks now, longer than any other artist in history)
 
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truthertech said:
I agree, this is Unfair!!! A billion isn't such a big number. It doesn't mean what it used to. Heck, that's only one stream for every phone Apple has sold. He will never get close to a trillion-- I guarantee it. I don't find it meaningful at all. People probably don't even like Drake, they only listen to him because Apple makes them, and Apple makes them stream his songs!!! This isn't fair at all!! Time for Tim to go; this reeks of desperation.
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Not every phone has an Apple Music subscription. I think the number is 25m.

Good try, though.
 
AceFernalld said:
- A Guy Who's Never Heard a Drake Album Front to Back

(Also, people have had Drake on repeat long before Apple cosigned him, he's been on the Billboard charts for 400+ consecutive weeks now, longer than any other artist in history)
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To be fair, that's mostly due to how the charts are now collated and changes in the industry. Pretty hard to stay 400 weeks on the charts when you got to have a physical disk in store to sell it.
To do so, say the Beatles, had to :
Decide on a single.
Get the distributor to print a run and get into their channel (those channels may or may not have covered all stores), those stores the decided if that single deserved to be featured (typically on a rack in front of the store with face showing). If the single sold a bundle, the store could reorder, if the disk was in print they got ones, till eventually the first run was finished and the record company then had to decide if they should make more.

The singles were very expensive in 2017 money, a lot more than the price of a stream or buying a digital copy to the user. So, the barrier to the sale was much higher. A single needed to be really good for the client to spend their money on this.

If the record company or the store decided it wasn't worth it to print or display, or the client decided he'd rather spend his music money on something else, well that was it and the disk went to the bins.

That meant that disks routinely had pretty short runs. Those short runs means it was very hard for an artist to overlap a disk with another release.
 
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