Dual-Sided Touch Panels for iPhones, MacBooks, Tablets?

[Tosser]

Don't apologize You haven't broken anything. What is happening with multi-touch R&D is just amazing - especially for those of us who are in creative fields. And the posts of yours that I read seemed to dismiss it (and people like Jeff Han) as if the technology was just something on a bad episode of Star Trek.

I am certainly not saying multi touch is bad idea. I'm saying it's crap if used instead of a keyboard for typing (or writing, if you will), unlike Ibwi and company, who thinks this is the holy grail.

If your only point is that you want to type on a physical keyboard - and that has been the reason you have typed what seems to be thousands of words on this thread, then use a keyboard for the rest of your life. However, at some point a younger generation will feel comfortable typing without the analogue input.

Ah, yes, I'm aware that the younger generation think they can do anything, thank you. And apparently, for some, that means they can even touch type without physical input. Have you actually thought about why some people can type really, really fast? You do know that's because they don't have to look, but can feel their way, and feel when they have made a typo, right? But, no, "the youth knows much better, they'll overcome this". Since someone else brought musical instruments into this, imagine playing on a piano, with no physical keys, or playing a guitar or a violin, where the strings were laserbeams. Surely you must think those strings aren't necessary either. Physical input are important for so many things, and frankly, drawing the youth-card is something only a, well, very young person would come up with.

I mean, does everyone hate typing on an iPhone?

No, just like everyone doesn't hate writing sms's constantly, only using their thumbs. However, even the fastest thumbist cannot compete with an average touch typist for very long. Plus, are you sure you wan't to be the slowest around, and the one with crippled fingers before you're set for retirement? It's about ergonomics, not youth.

And if the answer if "yes" then the technology will continue to evolve and the all touch keyboard will eventually improve and become more intuitive.

It's not about intuition, it's about ergonomics.

 

[sleepingworker]

One more thought ...

Touch typing is only as good as the keyboard you know. I can only touch type on QWERTY. When I'm in Europe I feel like a blind person trying to find the letters! With a multi touch screen, any person from any country whether they type in 하ㄴ 구ㄱ or English will be able to sit at the same computer and work in their native format.

 

[sleepingworker]

drawing the youth-card is something only a, well, very young person would come up with.

Although I don't know your skill in typing or how many words you type a minute, you have a wonderful skill in putting people down! Congratulations. You have no idea how old I am or what I have accomplished in my life. In another context I would take being called young a compliment - just not this one.

 

[Tosser]

One more thought ...

Touch typing is only as good as the keyboard you know. I can only touch type on QWERTY. When I'm in Europe I feel like a blind person trying to find the letters! With a multi touch screen, any person from any country whether they type in 하ㄴ 구ㄱ or English will be able to sit at the same computer and work in their native format.

When you say "Europe", what do you mean? France and Germany? I'm asking, because my keyboard is "european" and it's a qwerty.

But do you really feel, that because someone else might use your computer, it's a-okay to use something that won't work as well on a daily basis?

Although I don't know your skill in typing or how many words you type a minute, you have a wonderful skill in putting people down! Congratulations. You have no idea how old I am or what I have accomplished in my life. In another context I would take being called young a compliment - just not this one.

Ah, but you did pull the youth-card, as if that was an argument in its own right. But I see yet another person playing a victim there – I guess it's much easier doing it that way instead of addressing the valid points such as laser-strings, thumb-typists and what have we.
Anyway, as I mentioned, had you actually backed that youth card up with arguments, instead of relying solely on it, one would have been much less likely to conclude you must be one yourself.

 

[sleepingworker]

When you say "Europe", what do you mean? France and Germany? I'm asking, because my keyboard is "european" and it's a qwerty.

France and Italy

Ah, but you did pull the youth-card, as if that was an argument in its own right. But I see yet another person playing a victim there – I guess it's much easier doing it that way instead of addressing the valid points such as laser-strings, thumb-typists and what have we.
Anyway, as I mentioned, had you actually backed that youth card up with arguments, instead of relying solely on it, one would have been much less likely to conclude you must be one yourself.

Younger generations usually feel more comfortable with new technologies. Having a 16 year old son and watching him adapt quickly to different aspects of the varied worlds of technology (as well as all his friends) has shown me this. Seeing his grandparents (and other's of their generation) struggle with this same technology has also shown me this.

Please don't bother to reply to me. I like this site to learn and discuss subjects that are related to the world of Apple. Just because I don't need to be put down by someone like you doesn't mean that I'm a "victim". It just means I would rather have a dialogue with someone that shows me a little bit of courtesy. Thanks.

 

[ntrigue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLhMVNdplJc

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89sz8ExZndc&feature=related

... minority report hear we come. Only no eye ball scans please (or iBall as Apple would call it).

That's truly WONDERFUL!

 

[Tosser]

France and Italy



Younger generations usually feel more comfortable with new technologies. Having a 16 year old son and watching him adapt quickly to different aspects of the varied worlds of technology (as well as all his friends) has shown me this. Seeing his grandparents (and other's of their generation) struggle with this same technology has also shown me this.

Ah, yes, but that in no way means that youth will overcome (the lack of) ergonomics.
In fact, that argument of yours could be used for anything and everything. since you hacve 16-yo kid, that must mean their generation will be able to overcome loneliness, they will be able to use a 1 inch screen as a full fledged computer, hell, they'll be able to do _everything_, no matter the ergonomics, because, as you state, you having a 16yo kid have taught you this.

Please don't bother to reply to me.

You must be kidding. You don't think you get to post what's in the rest of your post, and somehow get a free card? Sheesh!

I like this site to learn and discuss subjects that are related to the world of Apple. Just because I don't need to be put down by someone like you doesn't mean that I'm a "victim".

Well, the moment you ignore valid points, only to focus on the things that calls your argument out, all the while pretending I'm out to get you, will get you that status in my book. If you had also tried to argue your points instead of a) playing the youth card, and then b) pretending all I did was putting you down because of a perceived age, well, it's no wonder really. And here you are again. In effect making strawman argumentation, all the while acting like I'm out to get you. What happened to arguing against the analogy to laser-strings? No, it's much easier to pretend, I'm out to get you. That way, you don't have to use argumentation.

It just means I would rather have a dialogue with someone that shows me a little bit of courtesy. Thanks.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and argue like a duck …

 

[TimMaroney]

eBook reader too?

Imagine if you could rotate this thing 90 degrees and use it as a "book". The text would be clearer and more proportional than in a regular screen view. It could use both sides of the screen for a two-up page display. With touch controls page flipping would be a breeze. That would be neat.

 

[AnonymousOne]

Apple always one step ahead.

 

[cthomet]

Imagine if you could rotate this thing 90 degrees and use it as a "book". The text would be clearer and more proportional than in a regular screen view. It could use both sides of the screen for a two-up page display. With touch controls page flipping would be a breeze. That would be neat.

neat yes but i dont think its enough of a priority for apple to spend time designing it so you could flip it 90

 

[chickenninja]

clever, they should throw in a protective layer that would be up against the back of the screen, untill one desired to fold it around the other side to trotect the transparent touch surface.

 

[sleepingworker]

Imagine if you could rotate this thing 90 degrees and use it as a "book". The text would be clearer and more proportional than in a regular screen view. It could use both sides of the screen for a two-up page display. With touch controls page flipping would be a breeze. That would be neat.

It would be great to have a reader feature down the line, especially since I'm not planning on purchasing Amazon's eBook reader.

 

[iJesus]

Could they look anything like this?

 

[kingpikey]

That's truly WONDERFUL!

Mmmm mmmm tasty. Can't wait to see what they can pull off...