4) The ACM is misrepresenting the market1) Finally someone is doing something
2) The fine is way to low
3) the dutch are crazy and should be punished
4) The ACM is misrepresenting the market1) Finally someone is doing something
2) The fine is way to low
3) the dutch are crazy and should be punished
Do you vote with your dollars and support android then? 30% is cheap as Apple charges $99 and one has to supply the sweat equity. Then the dev just sits back and watches the revenue roll in.At this point, you could say that Apple got to being worth 2 trillion dollars through theft.
That 30% cut is disgusting.
Like how consumers were punished when anti-competitive behavior in railroads, airlines, phone companies, stock exchanges, etc.. were intervened by government action, right?Consumers will be punished, no matter how this unfolds…..
Android is looking more and more attractive for both the developers and the users.Or, let the dating apps use a website and forget about the ios app store.
And don't stop there - remove all the apps (because eventually all developers will come after Apple).At this point, it’ll be best to just remove all the dating apps from the Apple store so Apple doesn’t have to deal with this. Not worth the fight.
It's not that simple, I think? I mean Apple is the one that prevents other App Stores from exisiting which I fairly agree with, but then one could argue that there should be a limit to what they can ask of the developer for hosting, once this creates a sort of monopoly. Microsoft had to provide a browser choice screen for Windows. If all Apple has to do is allow other payment providers, they're still fairly lucky. And the user too, because I think a single app store with a rigid review process is still a good thing.Yeah, basically they are expecting Apple to say: “Here, use my infrastructure to advertise and distribute your product, and while you make money, I’ll just sit here making nothing.”.
That's point though: there aren't any barriers to prevent Dutch dating app users from going to the internet version of a service or using an Android phone. The ACM is misrepresenting the market.Android is looking more and more attractive for both the developers and the users.
I think it would set a bad precedent for Apple, and they'd look even more dickish than they already do about this. I really think they're risking more than it's worth being so strident about the App Store, which could end up with a worse experience on the iPhone for us all.It would be an interesting experiment to see Apple just pull the App Store there and see what the results would be.
At this point, you could say that Apple got to being worth 2 trillion dollars through theft.
That 30% cut is disgusting.
That was my thought, too. “YEAH THIS 5 million will show apple, that’ll break them down!” Not hardly. Which, incidentally shows the real reason behind these laws. Country says “Apple should allow Android apps to run”. Apple says, “We can’t do that.” Country says, “Fine, then we’ll fine you because having money is always good.”maximum 50 million euros? LOL. That's coffee change for Apple.
Seemingly yes. Vote with your dollars.Android is looking more and more attractive for both the developers and the users.
If the Dutch set those kinds of rules about their dating apps...
The Dutch already notoriously have rules about dating...like are you going Dutch?
No thanks. I'm just gonna date Apple folks who make sure I pay on dates. I'm going Apple
You could also say they got there by spending a large sum of money to design and build the hardware, design and integrate the operating system with that hardware, negotiate to find a carrier that accepted their requirements for a network operator, build out the manufacturing and delivery infrastructure and iteratively improve the product over time in such a way that more and more users would buy it.At this point, you could say that Apple got to being worth 2 trillion dollars through theft.
That 30% cut is disgusting.
Or time for people to reevaluate their curious allegiances to brands and the big corporations behind them.
I'm talking about developers in general, not dating app devs in particular. And I think you underestimate the scale of the dating app industry.Apple would do fine without these silly dating apps.
Most people use FaceBook, Whatsapp, Youtube, those type of apps. And they don’t even pay Apple.
Like how consumers were punished when anti-competitive behavior in railroads, airlines, phone companies, stock exchanges, etc.. were intervened by government action, right?
They’ve already paid similar governmental fines in other countries (like $2 million to Brazil). I’d be willing to bet that the reason why the fine only amounts to $50 million is they wanted to ensure it was low enough that Apple would just pay and not fight it.It is but Apple doesn’t like to pay fines ? they’re going to find a way to get away with it.
One can't avoid buying a phone or computer that isn't assembled or sourced by a large corporation. However, one can avoid entangling their own identity with those corporations and treating any perceived slight on them as a slight against themselves.Spot on. People love to whine about this-n-that.
But they can never seem to step up and vote with their wallet purchasing computers/phones/etc from other companies. Have you?
I think the folks that failed economics 101 are the ones that don’t understand “commissions”.It's as if you all failed Economics 101.
Then don't sell your app there. No one is forcing developers to sell apps on the app store.At this point, you could say that Apple got to being worth 2 trillion dollars through theft.
That 30% cut is disgusting.
Do you mean Apple specifically? That one can’t avoid buying a phone or computer made by Apple? Because I do think that’s correct.One can't avoid buying a phone or computer that isn't assembled or sourced by a large corporation.
Didn’t it work though? I mean, $50 million is a small price to pay to be left alone. It’d be different if the Dutch said, “This is NOT suitable and we will accept anything short of full compliance!” Instead it’s more like, “Well, we don’t like it, but give us money and you can keep it JUST as you defined it.”I'd also like to take a moment to laugh at anyone who downvoted my comment last week saying that Apple's approach here was clearly not going to work with competition regulators in the Netherlands (https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-in-app-payment-options.2331585/post-30783001)
You're free to do that too.Or time for people to reevaluate their curious allegiances to brands and the big corporations behind them.