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However, DxO's mobile marks are always a bit odd. The 8 camera looks to be very good, but for my eye, I much prefer the Pixel shot to the iPhone shot in the portrait comparison posted above.
You should probably look a little bit closer then and see the butchered bokeh effect in the pixel image. Then again, I think the effect is really cheesy and I'd probably never use it in any device, so it doesn't really matter to me.
 
For all the top phone cameras now, it's come down to a matter of preference. Like, which image processing do you prefer? It's pretty amazing how far phone cameras have come, though.
 
Will be very interested to see the S8, Note 8, Pixel 2 and V30 scores become available. Outside of the Pixel maybe, Dxo would have had access to Samsung and LG phones for as long as IPhones.

But for today, the headlines in release day reviews and tag lines in the articles are lining up exactly with what the Apple PR people want to see, to compliment the general publicity and press around a launch day.

And when LG launches in North America,as when the Pixel 2 does, we will see how Dxo and the companies handle the release of those results then as well.
 
you can see that they have a bias towards Apple ... how could they test the iPhone 8 so fast when the s8, G6, etc. were released months ago and not even in the list.
 
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you can see that they have a bias towards Apple ... how could they test the iPhone 8 so fast when the s8, G6, etc. were released months ago and not even in the list.
They are retesting all their phones with their new scoring system and they just have not got round to testing the s8 or G6 again.

Don't see anything bias about that.
 
They are retesting all their phones with their new scoring system and they just have not got round to testing the s8 or G6 again.

Don't see anything bias about that.

Apple obviously paid them to test the iPhone first ... they prioritized the iPhone and released the results without the competitors.
 
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Plus the main thing that people don't know about renting a phone is You can't make extra payments towards the principal like you can with a car loan.

Completely false statement. You Can't speak for all carriers. I make extra principal payments all the time on my iPhone and I'm not penalized, which even my carrier encourages to do so for the sake of upgrading at my leisure.
 
Woohoo! The camera is my main reason for upgrading each year. iPhone X better not do any worse..

X will be even better since it has OIS on both camera modules.

Or it may be that Google will leapfrog Apple with the Pixel 2.
 
My iPhone 6 does amazing photos if you’re shooting in a colourful daylight. What we need is ability to take photos in dark and better ability to zoom.
I'm surprised at you!. ISO 1250 is fine!

Just look at how the camera captures the model's peachfuzz beard!
ip8Plus-IMG_0686a.jpg

Just drink up all that fine detail!

1/50 sec f1.8, ISO 1250
 
I'm surprised at you!. ISO 1250 is fine!

Just look at how the camera captures the model's peachfuzz beard!View attachment 720445
Just drink up all that fine detail!

1/50 sec f1.8, ISO 1250

I see grain (or maybe it is compression artifacts) too, was it shot. Seems like higher than iso 1250?
So a company that sells iPhone accessories says that an iPhone is best... makes sense.

man, get a clue. Please. Funny how they had the Samsung phones on top for 2 years, were they in the pocket of Samsung then? Be consistent in your delusion at least.
 

iPhone 8 Plus' camera is the same as last year's. The Note 8 in comparison is better all around for detail, natural colors, OIS, autofocus speed, low light, stereo sound, etc. Now we know why DxO Labs intentionally left out the Note 8.
 
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Checked out the photos in the review and to my eyes the iPhone's performance isn't clearly better than that of the Pixel. In many cases the Pixel handles color and contrast better, and in the zoom comparison the Pixel had considerably more detail despite lacking a 2x lens.

Apple does indeed lead on bokeh and portrait effects.

Since the Pixel 2 will soon be out I think Apple remain behind the competition on camera performance due to their unwillingness to use the best available image sensors. Image signal processing can only compensate so much for a lackluster sensor.

Given the cost of these iPhones I think at least the Plus should use a more advanced image sensor.

Disclaimer: it may be that what I'm seeing in regard to color and contrast is due to the conversion from the iPhone's wide color gamut to an internet-friendly sRGB. I really hope this is the case.
 
Seems like higher than iso 1250?

Why would you say that? ISO isn't a measurement of sensor noise, or grain, or quality. It's an indication of sensitivity.

I can get a third party light meter, measure the light, and discover that to properly expose a photograph under the lighting conditions, using this fstop, and this shutter speed, I need to use this sort of film (or this ISO setting). Or I can rely on my camera's built in meter to make the same sort of assessment.

small sensors tend to get really grainy at high ISOs. If you shot the same scene with a D5 with the same settings (f1.8, 1/60, ISO 1250), you wouldn't be taking about grain.

https://nikonrumors.com/2016/08/06/...mo-valley-in-ethiopia-with-the-nikon-d5.aspx/
 
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is this the 8+??
awful

Yeah, you can save the (non-composite) images and read the EXIF with preview.

Aperture Value: 2.971
Brightness Value: -1.693
Color Space: Uncalibrated
Components Configuration: 1, 2, 3, 0
Custom Rendered: 8
Date Time Digitized: Sep 21, 2017, 1:00:43 PM
Date Time Original: Sep 21, 2017, 1:00:43 PM
Exif Version: 2.2.1
Exposure Bias Value: 0
Exposure Mode: Auto exposure
Exposure Program: Normal program
Exposure Time: 1/50
Flash: Off, did not fire
FlashPix Version: 1.0
FNumber: 2.8
Focal Length: 6.6
Focal Length In 35mm Film: 57
ISO Speed Ratings: 1,250
Lens Make: Apple
Lens Model: iPhone 8 Plus back dual camera 6.6mm f/2.8
Lens Specification: 3.99, 6.6, 1.8, 2.8
Metering Mode: Pattern
Pixel X Dimension: 3,024
Pixel Y Dimension: 4,032
Scene Capture Type: Standard
Scene Type: A directly photographed image
Sensing Method: One-chip color area sensor
Shutter Speed Value: 1/50
Subject Area: 1,808, 1,799, 456, 455
Sub-second Time Digitized: 319
Sub-second Time Original: 319
White Balance: Auto white balance
Regions: 2 regions (Face)
 
Why would you say that? ISO isn't a measurement of sensor noise, or grain, or quality. It's an indication of sensitivity.

I can get a third party light meter, measure the light, and discover that to properly expose a photograph under the lighting conditions, using this fstop, and this shutter speed, I need to use this sort of film (or this ISO setting). Or I can rely on my camera's built in meter to make the same sort of assessment.

small sensors tend to get really grainy at high ISOs. If you shot the same scene with a D5 with the same settings (f1.8, 1/60, ISO 1250), you wouldn't be taking about grain.

https://nikonrumors.com/2016/08/06/...mo-valley-in-ethiopia-with-the-nikon-d5.aspx/

I made assumption about the conditions it was shot in. With that in mind, my comment actually makes sense.
Though I suppose I should have mentioned that.

I own a Canon G7X (version 2) and normally I don't get any visible grain for a photo this size under those kind of assumed lighting conditions at that ISO.
 
is this the 8+??
awful
It is a 1250 ISO shot from 1/3.6" sensor (tele module). The result is still OK (not great, obviously, but ok) full 10.5" screen even with a gentle shadow boost, if you don't stick your nose on the screen. I find it quite impressive.
I am eager to see results from iPhone X, with brighter lens and IS.
 
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I own a Canon G7X (version 2) and normally I don't get any visible grain for a photo this size under those kind of assumed lighting conditions at that ISO.
The G7x2 is a beast. It is competitive with an APSc dSLR with its kit zoom in low light. Obviously, phones are still not competitive with dSLR for low light. Plus I would not cary mine in a pant pocket, given it is more than 4cm thick (it is OK in a jacket)
 
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