Unfortunate victim will be DxOMark and it's credibility which by the way Apple or Google or anyone happy to tamper with! You lose one more objective critics in the market!! Everything has a price tag!
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DxO Labs Says iPhone 8 Plus Has Best Smartphone Camera They've Ever Tested
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Unfortunate victim will be DxOMark and it's credibility which by the way Apple or Google or anyone happy to tamper with! You lose one more objective critics in the market!! Everything has a price tag!
Perhaps it’s a picture of a picture? Shouldn’t be too much trouble to align lenses then.
And don’t get me wrong, even as someone who has Android, and sitting on the fence about going the IP8 vs 7,and finding the Note 8 too big, I’m glad to hear this appears to be a decent upgrade over the 7 in the camera side and may sway my decision.
So, Apples wok in improving the camera relatively speaking over the 7 has me more or less convinced to go with the 8, so job done.
But when comparing cross platforms and across multibillion dollar companies with their flagship products and the influence the companies can exert, it's got to be tough for a company like Dxo mark to stay fully credible and not listen to the "ideas" those companies suggest in how they test or which factors are more important than others.
So, Apples wok in improving the camera relatively speaking over the 7 has me more or less convinced to go with the 8, so job done.
But when comparing cross platforms and across multibillion dollar companies with their flagship products and the influence the companies can exert, it's got to be tough for a company like Dxo mark to stay fully credible and not listen to the "ideas" those companies suggest in how they test or which factors are more important than others.
Same. I want the SE with the high-end camera. Big screen should just be an option, not a different tier.
In my opinion Samsung and Pixel are automatically better because of the tight integration between hardware and software. iPhone captures reality too well but people want colors and brightness to pop. Too bad Apple has to waste time on iMovie and Photos so they need to worry about photographic balance whereas Samsung can make really bold photos that are colorful and hyper-realistic.
So, Apple write on their website, and said during the keynote, than the iPhone 8 (main) sensor is larger...
In store I checked the FoV side by side with my 6s : just a tiny bit wider. It must be pretty identical to iPhone 7 which have a wider FoV than 6s too.
Then I check the exif from DXO review : 3,99mm. The same focal length than iPhone 7 !
Same focal length and same FoV means same sensor size.
So either their is a problem with exif data, or Apple is wrong with its commercial material.
In store I checked the FoV side by side with my 6s : just a tiny bit wider. It must be pretty identical to iPhone 7 which have a wider FoV than 6s too.
Then I check the exif from DXO review : 3,99mm. The same focal length than iPhone 7 !
Same focal length and same FoV means same sensor size.
So either their is a problem with exif data, or Apple is wrong with its commercial material.
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What is wrong with taking these test pictures sequentially? People can hold a pose for more than a few seconds.
I think they said the sensor captures 83% more light, which most people interpreted as having a larger sensor. In principle it could also mean a lower base ISO. But I am very curious as well.
EDIT: The 83% more light was stated during their presentation, I've just seen that on their website they do talk about a larger sensor.
The iPhone 8 image in that portrait series is really a significantly better then the iPhone 6s version. Though the iPhone 8 (and 7) having optical image stabilisation (OIS) could also explain that difference (slower shutter speed + lower ISO). Improved noise reduction cannot explain that big a difference.
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DxO is neither a customer, supplier or competitor to Apple, Samsung or Google. Ok, a bit of a competitor with Apple Photos and Google Photos but DxO Optics has quite a different user base. How would Apple, Samsung or Google exert pressure on DxO?
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While possible, a printed picture generally has a lower dynamic range than a real, 3D object. Which makes a comparison based on on one less representative for real usage. And photographing a digital screen also has its issues.
It could be exif error, or may be the new color filter ? RGBW get more light pass through.
Besides, I suspect the 6s picture is a crop from WA, while the iPhone 8 comes from the tele lens.
Yes, it's called pattern recognition and computer simulation. What Apple is doing with Portrait Lighting is already going in that direction. But there are limits to this as well, in particular in regard to what's the smallest feature size a camera system can capture. Features that are 10x smaller than the pixel size are impossible to extract from a single capture. Having an large number of captures, all with a slight offset can extract detail that is smaller than the pixel. Cameras that achieve this with sensor shifts have existed for, I'd say, at least ten years, requiring static subjects and static camera. But one can also use the slight random movements of somebody holding a camera for this to some extent. Extending this to moving subjects is where things eventually will fail.
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I'm hoping for an EXIF error. But RGBW shouldn't bring in 83% more light. Instead of four times a 'third' of the light, it would provide three times a 'third' plus one, ie, (1/3 + 1/3 +1/3 + 1)/(1/3 + 1/3 +1/3 + 1/3)= 1.5.
It should be labelled '8 Plus' if it were coming from the 'tele' lens. The 'plus' label is used for a number of images, you'd thus expect it if it really came from a 'Plus' phone.
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It is labeled "8 plus"
That said, given what DXO state, I am not sure from which camera module it comes : "These tight crops of an area in our standard natural test scene"
That was part of my struggle too...wait an extra 3-4 mos, get an X, then, being on the IUP, have to wait until January again next year to upgrade...all for not much more than the bigger screen?? Nah, I'll stick w/ the 8+ and upgrade again next year in Sept.
while i agree that it's weird, that they don't have (re)tested the current samsung flagship phones, i do think the changes make sense. they have to integrate trends of the market somehow...
but to be fair: anything that mentions the iPhone or Apple will get alot more attention than Samsung or the Galaxy phones... That's just the way the media (and apparently media consumers) are currently wired. And this also encourages them to hurry up with the iPhone reviews.