DxOMark: iPhone XS Max is 'Surefire Option' With 'One of the Best Smartphone Cameras Ever'

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    DxOMark today published the results of its in-depth analysis of the iPhone XS Max's rear camera. Apple's flagship smartphone achieved an overall score of 105 points, trailing only the Huawei P20 Pro at 109 in the site's all-time rankings.


    Note that the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max have identical camera specs, so this review applies equally to the iPhone XS.

    In its testing, DxOMark found the iPhone XS Max to have "excellent" photo and video quality in bright light, with a "very wide dynamic range and good detail." In terms of photo quality, they found exposure in outdoor images "tends to be spot on," with high levels of detail and pleasant colors.

    The review adds that Apple's new Smart HDR feature generates images with "very good target exposure and a wide dynamic range in all conditions."

    Backlit indoor scene shot on iPhone XS Max

    Backlit indoor scene shot on iPhone X

    Achieving a video score of 96, DxOMark said the iPhone XS Max shows "outstanding video quality in bright light."

    DxOMark concludes that the iPhone XS Max has "one of the best mobile cameras" it has ever tested, with noticeable improvements in many areas over last year's iPhone X. Their review praises the iPhone XS Max camera as being "very reliable overall" and "consistently delivering good results."


    In lower light, however, DxOMark found that noise becomes "a little more intrusive than with other high-end phones," adding that the iPhone XS Max's zoom capabilities lag somewhat behind the competition -- specifically, the Huawei P20 Pro. Beyond that, they say the device is a "surefire option for any mobile photographer."

    For scoring and analysis in its smartphone camera reviews, DxOMark says its engineers capture and evaluate over 1,500 test images and more than two hours of video both in controlled lab environments and in natural indoor and outdoor scenes, using the camera's default settings. More on their methodology here.

    DxO is a well-known French image lab that has been reviewing smartphone cameras for many years, but they've attracted some criticism. At the end of the day, camera quality is subjective, at least to some extent.

    Article Link: DxOMark: iPhone XS Max is 'Surefire Option' With 'One of the Best Smartphone Cameras Ever'
  2. Aluminum213 macrumors 68040


    Mar 16, 2012
    But worse than LAST YEARS Pixel 2, now we have the Pixel 3 right around the corner. What happened to Apple being the phone camera king?
  3. Lobwedgephil macrumors 601


    Apr 7, 2012
    Huge improvement over the X, which this shows.
  4. CmdrPuffin macrumors member

    Feb 24, 2013
    I find it really strange how all of these articles keep praising the iPhone XS Max and hardly ever mentioning the XS itself. They have the same specs and equipment other than the screen size and not everyone wants a monsterously huge phone.
  5. acblue94 macrumors regular


    Jul 26, 2011
    New York, NY.

    Yea so the XS has the same camera. So the article should said the XS and max have the best camera
  6. Xenomorph macrumors 65816


    Aug 6, 2008
    St. Louis
    I was just about to mention this!

    Another article saying the iPhone XS Max has the best camera? But it has the SAME camera as the XS. Why not say the XS and XS Max have the best cameras, or just "XS", since they both include that name.
  7. StellarVixen macrumors 68000


    Mar 1, 2018
    Oh look, it's the DxOMark again.

    It's irrelevant what they say.
  8. ant the ninja macrumors 6502

    ant the ninja

    Nov 21, 2012

    I mean I wouldn't necessarily say its "worse" than the pixel 2. I think its subjective, I think they both look great.
  9. recoil80 macrumors 68020

    Jul 16, 2014
    Solid upgrade from my 8+ that had almost the same camera as iPhone X.
    In my opinion not a compelling reason to upgrade from X to Xs, but I got rid of the bezels and gained an OLED display so it was a huge difference to me. Really happy about the switch!
  10. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
  11. MrGimper macrumors 603


    Sep 22, 2012
    Andover, UK
    Which is why you buy the XS, not the Max .... what's your point?
  12. now i see it macrumors 68040

    Jan 2, 2002
    Every year these iPhone camera reviews come out for the new iPhone and every time the reviews state that the camera is "excellent". This has been going on for years.

    But when they compare the new iPhone camera to the previous year's iPhone, the previous year's iPhone picture quality always looks like crap.

    How can it be that a camera that was "excellent" last year now takes crap pictures this year?

    Something is rigged here.
  13. roland.g macrumors 603


    Apr 11, 2005
    The only way we can be really sure is to have an FBI investigation. They can vet the validity of DxOMark’s claims.
  14. solace macrumors regular

    Apr 6, 2006
    sure you're not looking at the iPhone X below the Pixel 2?
  15. FelixDerKater Contributor


    Apr 12, 2002
    Nirgendwo in Amerika
    So, the scores matter again when Apple is ahead?
  16. OldSchoolMacGuy Suspended


    Jul 10, 2008
    Each opinion is different. None are going to be definitive. The rankings are so close that in the real-world, most will see no difference.
  17. sammy2066 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 3, 2007
    I was under the impression that both the XS and XS Max have identical camera systems - in which case this result makes no sense to me. Or am I missing something?
  18. The Don Onez macrumors member

    Nov 7, 2017
    Huntsville, AL
    He's saying all the reviews are focused on the Max and not the XS. That's his point. He wants more info on how the XS stacks up against other phones.

    It seems obvious what he was talking about.
  19. SoN1NjA macrumors 68000


    Feb 3, 2016
    the pool
    Not better than Pixel 2? Hmm, sounds not right
  20. Andres Cantu macrumors 68030

    Andres Cantu

    May 31, 2015
    Rio Grande Valley in South Texas
    Pixel 3 should score good as well, but if they really wanted to be the best camera with no questions asked, they’d add a second camera for optical zoom. I mean, what’s stopping Google? Profits, I suppose.
  21. ColdShadow macrumors 65816


    Sep 25, 2013
    isn’t camera of XS and XS Max exactly the same?

    So why they never mention Xs?
    Many people don’t like the bulkiness of Xs Max and will be much happier with “large enough” size of Xs.
  22. AFPoster macrumors 68000

    Jul 14, 2008
    Charlotte, NC
    Wouldn't this mean that the iPhone Xs is just as good since everything is identical?
  23. Feenician, Oct 3, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2018

    Feenician macrumors 601


    Jun 13, 2016
    In your rush to find something to be mad about you missed something.

    Edit: This was poorly worded and conceived by me but I won’t edit out stupidity, but leave it to remind me to make better posts. I apologize to the posters in question and hope the below quote from the article helped someone.

  24. MrGimper macrumors 603


    Sep 22, 2012
    Andover, UK
    That bit yes, but the part about not everyone wanting a "monstrously huge phone". Not everyone has to have a monstrously huge phone, because as he said, the XS and Max are identical apart from size.
  25. DNichter macrumors G3


    Apr 27, 2015
    Philadelphia, PA
    Nice to see this. From my experience, the camera has been a massive upgrade. Good to see the XS beating out the Note 9 and Pixel 2 as they were the nearest in terms of competition. I guess I am little surprised just how much better it is, but Apple did spend a good amount of time going over the improvements to the camera. Looks like it has paid off dramatically.

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