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Glad they noticed that the noise is an issue. Never really noticed how big of a problem it was until the cameras got this good. I'd like to see it addressed in the next generation phone though.
 
Well, like their Audiophile counterparts, the Photography wonks will argue till the end of time over what constitutes a superior photograph. When it comes to human senses like seeing and hearing there simply is no objective test to determine the best. Now add bias confirmation to the mix and you have the perfect recipe for endless bloviation. The fact that today you can carry around a device in your pocket that will take perfectly acceptable, even great photos is lost in the bickering over Bokeh, f stops, and all the other “settings” that normal people don't know or care about. We just want to take a picture of the mountain we are looking at or our granddaughter in the swing outside. My iPhone 8 takes great pictures and I don't have to lug around a DSLR with assorted lens and accessories. What’s wrong with that?
 
The camera is a massive improvement over my 6S, I only took a few photo's, mostly work related and took photo's of the inside of my apartment which I am rebuilding now, amazed by the quality.
 
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Glad they noticed that the noise is an issue. Never really noticed how big of a problem it was until the cameras got this good. I'd like to see it addressed in the next generation phone though.
Noise is the main issue old camera, so we come to day of are normal camera are better then IPHONE .. Or in youtube video saying, using some x brand gopro latest test better making video then normal camera.

** My Imac 2017 don't even support 4K native, oh my eye cannot see what i take picture anyway all the detailing. o_O
 
Every year these iPhone camera reviews come out for the new iPhone and every time the reviews state that the camera is "excellent". This has been going on for years.

But when they compare the new iPhone camera to the previous year's iPhone, the previous year's iPhone picture quality always looks like crap.

How can it be that a camera that was "excellent" last year now takes crap pictures this year?

Something is rigged here.

You hit the nail on the head. Most people don’t or can’t think critically about what they read or see on TV. You obviously can. Perhaps you have a science degree where critical thinking is drilled into you; at least, that was my experience.

Their use of the term “excellent” seems only to be how it compares to other mobile phones available at the time of review and not any meaningful objective measure relating to picture quality. No mobile phone camera would be considered excellent compared to most compact point-and-shoots even. Not that they have to but it’s useful to know where the mobile sensors stand compared to all other options, not just other mobiles.
 
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not sure how I feel about modern photography compressing things so everything is clearly visible. That backlit seen seems much more impressive - but if it is dark inside and bright outside, I shouldn't expect to see everything clearly. It isn't really expressing the reality of the situation.
 
I find it really strange how all of these articles keep praising the iPhone XS Max and hardly ever mentioning the XS itself. They have the same specs and equipment other than the screen size and not everyone wants a monsterously huge phone.
Wouldn't this mean that the iPhone Xs is just as good since everything is identical?

The Xs is simply too similar to the X in regard to aspects that are easily visible, listed and defined. The Xs Max offers something clearly different that is immediately visible and that people understand.

A 'better camera', possibly the most noticeable difference of the Xs over the X, is a harder sell since the official specs didn't change. The wider focal length of the wide-angle camera isn't communicated, number of cameras is the same, f-stops are the same, stabilisation is the same. The larger camera sensor is only mentioned indirectly (via larger pixels) and not something somebody who isn't a photography nerd would immediately value. All the computational photography improvements aren't easily quantifiable, at least in a way that non-nerds can put a value on.
 
Even as an owner of an XS Max I can’t say I particularly put stock in DXOMark. I do love the shots I’ve been getting from it though.

Not knowing much about photography, is it ever possible that the optics in something the size of a phone can get near to a “what my eyes see” shot, or is it pretty much all computational photography tricks from here on out?
 
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Who's upset? You missed the point with "likely". The OP still has a valid point on wanting to see some test on XS and not the XS Max.

Just because they have the same camera, don't mean they'll have the same results. Is that hard to understand?

It was a terrible pre-coffee post by me. I’ve edited to reflect my post-coffee thoughts. Sorry.
 
Every year these iPhone camera reviews come out for the new iPhone and every time the reviews state that the camera is "excellent". This has been going on for years.

But when they compare the new iPhone camera to the previous year's iPhone, the previous year's iPhone picture quality always looks like crap.

How can it be that a camera that was "excellent" last year now takes crap pictures this year?

Something is rigged here.


Because you have more sense than any sensor, and I applaud you.
 
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