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This market (headphones and earbuds) is HUGE. Wonder what company will come in next? Think the images (and on The Verge) look good, interested to read the reviews but for now happy with my Sennheiser M4s.
Westinghouse washing machines are next with some ultra sonic buds.
 
Almost half a kilo of metals on your head just to hear an extra 1% quality audio?

Compared to earbuds these days this equation just does not add up. Posers enjoy.
 
The expression when your headphone purchase coincides with your first sighting of Devo Freedom of Choice
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I had a Dyson vacuum die on me. Luckily still under warranty. My brother had one die on him out of warranty. I'm soured on Dyson
 
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Just a shame that dyson campaigned for the UK to leave the EU and then moved to singapore. Also they ugly.
And also recently announced that they are cutting about 1,000 UK jobs.
Never buy a Dyson, not only is the guy a massive prick, but their products never last.
 
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Agreed. Look at any other vacuum's debris container after you vacuum, especially on carpet, and compare it to the debris container after you vacuum with a Dyson. The difference has always been night and day, Dyson destroys the competition.
Get a Miele, if you hoover upstairs, you’ll find it will hoover downstairs as well. Much better product reliability.
 
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I am no acoustic engineer, so correct me if I am wrong:

Human hearing typically picks up sounds between 20Hz and 20.000Hz. I am not even sure that Bluetooth and compressed audio formats can faithfully reproduce sounds throughout that range, but let us suppose they could. Why one earth are these headphones sampling at 384,000Hz for active noise cancellation? Generally when measuring continuous quantities like sound levels, one oversamples at 2 or 3 times the highest rate you are interested in to avoid aliasing. For active noise cancellation I assume this would be 40,000Hz or possibly 60,000Hz. Is there any real advantage to sampling at 384,000Hz?

Sorry if I am being obtuse, but this 384kHz number sounds a little like the volume dial on the guitar in the movie Spinal Tap that goes up 11, or the old electronics shops that used to scam consumers by using a stereo system's wattage as a measure of performance.

I'm not a sound engineer either, but you've raised an interesting question that's got me thinking.

I believe that noise cancelling works by creating an out-of-phase version of the noise which cancels out the external noise, since a signal and the equivalent out-of-phase signal cancel each other). In order to do this, the out-of-phase noise needs to be played at exactly the same time as the noise. If it's slightly delayed, then it won't cancel completely. This may be why Dyson is using such a high sampling rate for the noise.
 
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People can bash them all they want, I'm going to hold reserve until I actually try them. I used to think Dyson vacuums were overpriced nonsense...then, one day I bought a Dyson vacuum on sale and never looked back after using it. Not to mention our household added one of those Dyson hairdryers...it isn't hype, it's a real engineering work of art that's incredibly quiet as well as efficient. The engineers they have working for the brand and the creations they come up with really are top notch. We've all seen the debacles that Apple has put out with their audio products, even when they should be stellar, so why is it so difficult for others to believe that Dyson can put out something amazing?
 
I'm not a sound engineer either, but you've raised an interesting question that's got me thinking.

I believe that noise cancelling works by creating an out-of-phase version of the noise which cancels out the external noise, since a signal and the equivalent out-of-phase signal cancel each other). In order to do this, the out-of-phase noise needs to be played at exactly the same time as the noise. If it's slightly delayed, then it won't cancel completely. This may be why Dyson is using such a high sampling rate for the noise.
Makes sense to me, but then again I am a mere mortal and no engineer. Mind you, the headphones could have a buffer and delay the sound received by Bluetooth to match the lag in the active noise cancellation system. Anyway, this just seems like overkill to me.
 
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Most important thing for me would be that I can make music on my Mac/iPad with Bluetooth headphones, and that means low latency. If anyone manages that, I'm buying it.
 
Makes sense to me, but then again I am a mere mortal and no engineer. Mind you, the headphones could have a buffer and delay the sound received by Bluetooth to match the lag in the active noise cancellation system. Anyway, this just seems like overkill to me.
both correct (@wyrdness). In fact, bluetooth headphones are primarily buffer. Adequate forms of RAM are dirt cheap. Constant microwaves are not great right up in your skull holes. So the compromise has always been to buffer a batch of content at best effort, while microprocessor and pre-amp take microseconds to fiddle audio enhancements and separate noise+cancellation, so your audio content isn't ruined. Then the headphones keep up the struggle to collect the next buffer, fiddle, buffer, fiddle, buffer fiddle...

Noise cancelation is only partly reactive. It's also heavily sampling and rephase. It's a statistical game. A few microseconds of steady jet engine, human speech, air conditioning, road noise is easy to sample and replay on a loop, 180 degrees out of phase. Earphones don't always LISTEN+REACT; they conserve power by switching to SAMPLE+PREDICT. These systems system don't do well with unpredictable, sudden, or sharp noise.

You can really tell how bluetooth sucks for real-time streaming during movies, phone/conference calls. Real-time reactivity require way more power and needs a clearer signal path. Often, packet loss and workload make synch fall apart, and then device and earphones have to renegotiate to restart. This is especially noticeable in "true-wireless" earbuds when right and left get out of whack. That's the choppiness, clicks, buzzing and drops you hear (and others hear from you) on phone/conference calls; earphones CAN'T buffer, sample and counter-phase in true realtime - when they try, you pick up on it it sounds awful.

The higher sampling rate means noise cancellation can counter more of the worlds unpredictable noise, including all the gross meat-bag noises from inside your skull (breathing, heartbeat, bloodrush, blinking, swallowing, neck bones creaking, etc.). THIS is the difference between $50 ANC earphones in Walgreens, and $300+ ANC earphones from premium brands: RAM for buffering. Microphones and microprocessors for sampling. Microprocessors for DAC (digital analog converter). Power for all the chips. More power for big driver amps. And software to tie it all together.
 
Not sure I like the design, looks very heavy as well. But only first thoughts looking at a single image.
 
Miele are the best for Washers, Dryers, and hoovers.
I'm guessing you all who have mentioned Miele are from across the pond, because in America we don't call vacuums hoovers, unless they are a Hoover brand vacuum. Never heard of Miele, except my middle school librarian, Mrs. Miele.
 
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both correct (@wyrdness). In fact, bluetooth headphones are primarily buffer. Adequate forms of RAM are dirt cheap. Constant microwaves are not great right up in your skull holes. So the compromise has always been to buffer a batch of content at best effort, while microprocessor and pre-amp take microseconds to fiddle audio enhancements and separate noise+cancellation, so your audio content isn't ruined. Then the headphones keep up the struggle to collect the next buffer, fiddle, buffer, fiddle, buffer fiddle...

Noise cancelation is only partly reactive. It's also heavily sampling and rephase. It's a statistical game. A few microseconds of steady jet engine, human speech, air conditioning, road noise is easy to sample and replay on a loop, 180 degrees out of phase. Earphones don't always LISTEN+REACT; they conserve power by switching to SAMPLE+PREDICT. These systems system don't do well with unpredictable, sudden, or sharp noise.

You can really tell how bluetooth sucks for real-time streaming during movies, phone/conference calls. Real-time reactivity require way more power and needs a clearer signal path. Often, packet loss and workload make synch fall apart, and then device and earphones have to renegotiate to restart. This is especially noticeable in "true-wireless" earbuds when right and left get out of whack. That's the choppiness, clicks, buzzing and drops you hear (and others hear from you) on phone/conference calls; earphones CAN'T buffer, sample and counter-phase in true realtime - when they try, you pick up on it it sounds awful.

The higher sampling rate means noise cancellation can counter more of the worlds unpredictable noise, including all the gross meat-bag noises from inside your skull (breathing, heartbeat, bloodrush, blinking, swallowing, neck bones creaking, etc.). THIS is the difference between $50 ANC earphones in Walgreens, and $300+ ANC earphones from premium brands: RAM for buffering. Microphones and microprocessors for sampling. Microprocessors for DAC (digital analog converter). Power for all the chips. More power for big driver amps. And software to tie it all together.
Much obliged for the information. Now it makes sense.
 
Shame James Dyson is a t-WAT.

And yet as both these and AirPods are wireless and therefore don't support lossless sound, they perform worse than most sets of $50 wired headphones. Expensive fashion accessories, not serious headphones.

You wouldn't be to hear the difference between 256kbps AAC and lossless on either headphones anyway.
 
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