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you mean next years line of computers will be faster than this ones?

no... WAY!!!

Funny!

Think of it this way; referring to the Core 2 Duo machines: "You would need six hundred Pentium based computers, in an office the size of a hangar, to equal the processing power of a single Macbook Air that fits in an envelope. Yet if you would believe what you read, the Macbook Air, is under spec'ed." - http://www.davidgalbraith.org/archives/001309.html
 
I admire computers that give me the best performance possible by using the fastest parts available. The MBA has to sacrifice a lot of that to keep it's gimmick thinness. Fact.



I take it you use Windows based computers if you want the fastest parts available.
 
This makes me want the 13 inch more... but I still can't decide if I want the smaller footprint, since I don't need the power.

My first laptop was a white 10" iBook (not counting an early 2300 duo), and I really enjoyed it. I then went to a 15" MBP and was astounded with what more I could get done with the extra screen size.

While the 11" outsells the 13", think about what you may need to get done. for example spreadsheet sizes, side-by-side docs, et al. If I remember right, all things being equal, there's only $100 between the two sizes.
 
Odd how people assume I am a windows person because I don't embrace 1 of Apple's products. There is no relating logic there at all.

I have been a Mac user and only a Mac user since 1994.
 
The MBA is easily Apple's biggest gimmick product to date and it serves no real purpose or practical uses. It's a completely unnecessary product.

I want some of what you're smoking. It's so popular for it's light weight and battery life that Apple is dropping their last white MacBook. It stopped being a "gimmick" after the first models that were over-priced and under-powered.
 
I am still happy with my MBA (last version). It is a very nice and a well built pc in my opinion. :)

I only wish it had a kensington lock slot.
 
My first laptop was a white 10" iBook (not counting an early 2300 duo), and I really enjoyed it. I then went to a 15" MBP and was astounded with what more I could get done with the extra screen size.

Then I hooked my 11" MBA to my 24" monitor and was astonished all over.

I weighed 11 vs 13 for a while but decided that I wanted it to be as portable as possible and that I could still hook it up to a decent size monitor when at my desk.

For you the trade off calculation might be different.
 
If only there was a 15" Air :rolleyes:

Then it defeats the purpose of an Airbook. :rolleyes:

If you need such a big laptop then a normal one makes more sense and you get the extra video power.

Air like a iPad are about light and more in line with consumption and light needs not for hard core users needed heavy duty lifting. Next you want to play Crysis on an Air. :rolleyes:
 
I think it just started to shed the gimmick image today. You can tell by the amount of MBP users hopping over to ultra portables.

Also the graph shows the 2010 MPB's not the Feb 2011. I want to see a chart with the newest.
 
Odd how people assume I am a windows person because I don't embrace 1 of Apple's products. There is no relating logic there at all..

The logic is that you said - "I admire computers that give me the best performance possible by using the fastest parts available."

Windows machines can give you better performance than Apple machines and can use faster parts than Apples. By not using those machines, the conclusion now is that either you do not really admire best performance and fastest parts or you are not using machines you most admire. I think people were giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you use a Windows machine.
 
First off the benchmark sucks. Second never judge a machine via one benchmark.

As to Sandy Bridge the GPU is a mixed bag. It is actually a faster 2D performer but falls on it's face as graphics become more and more demanding 3D wise.

The CPU is about 50% faster for general instructions but it also implements some really interesting new instructions. Instructions which can significantly speed up some operations.

Lion appears to have generally sped up many things. So by running Lion they have an advantage there.

if you look at what AMD is doing with CPU & GPU integration you will see there are some huge advantages to having that GPU on die. Now I believe Intel is a little behind here but still there is an advantage to keeping the GPU close by.

Finally don't make the fatal error of believing everything you read!
I'm not judging anything by one benchmark. I haven't even looked at these benchmarks. I'm more curious about how Sandybridge has affected graphics performance, and when you say things like "[it] falls on it's face as graphics become more and more demanding 3D wise," that doesn't give me much reassurance. Saying "Lion appears to have generally sped up things" is even more vague than the benchmarks. Care to elaborate? Lion has only been out for 15 hours now, so I doubt anyone has a good grasp of what is all going on under the hood. Frankly, I'm just curious how the new MBAs compare to the previous generation when it comes to graphic performance in a variety of common graphics intensive tasks (playing HD files, gaming, editing video, etc.).
 
If performance is a serious issue for you wait for more credible bench marks. Especially benchmarks that target your usage. Benchmarks are statistics and statistics are often lies or very misleading.

My impression right now is that several things have come together to give use very good performance on the new machines.

just remember though right now Core i5 has both the CPU and GPU

earlier it has to be CPU+ nVidian 320M - you got to think in terms of TDP and Heat for both these but right now it is one package.

I am confident it is a mistake in the apple website. well we will know once iFixit tears it down.

All in all, i like the entire line, i wish $999 had 4GB and 128GB SSD.

I have no rush to replace my iMac yet, just waiting ...
 
I’m really happy that I have bought old one 13“ coz missing NVIDIA Graphic card is NO BUY factor for me. I do hate anything called Intel HDXXXX maybe good for portability but I don’t care… step back for me. Anyway - objective power is different than this test just because it is only the highest power of CPU not CPU+GPU as 1part so I thing first gen is better and backlit keyboard isn’t something I would really appreciate :) but anyway I’m happy that I don’t have to be disappointed that I have bought old one instead of new one :)

the intel 3000 is actually not bad this year. it is on par with the 320m in your MBA.
 
Sure, the fact that the tested MBP didnt have an SSD is silly, but from a price perspective it's much much more reasonable to have an SSD in the macbook air.
 
i just ran a 32bit geekbench on my 2010 15" i7 2.6ghz MBP and got a score of 5705.

I also had, safari w/ 8 tabs, ichat, preview, office, itunes, thunderbird, acrobat reader, firefox w/ 9 tabs and the App Store all running while i did the test.

Im fairly sure that I would do a lot better if I got the 64bit version and ran tests after force quitting out of everything...
 
I’m really happy that I have bought old one 13“ coz missing NVIDIA Graphic card is NO BUY factor for me. I do hate anything called Intel HDXXXX maybe good for portability but I don’t care… step back for me. Anyway - objective power is different than this test just because it is only the highest power of CPU not CPU+GPU as 1part so I thing first gen is better and backlit keyboard isn’t something I would really appreciate :) but anyway I’m happy that I don’t have to be disappointed that I have bought old one instead of new one :)

buyers remorse?
 
Odd how people assume I am a windows person because I don't embrace 1 of Apple's products. There is no relating logic there at all.

I have been a Mac user and only a Mac user since 1994.

Umm, check your signature... You look definitely like a "Windows guy".
 
so much power . wasted on the target buyer of macbook air.
I am sure the people who buy these macbook air will not be able to use the cpu power of the new air.

it is such a pity. look on the brightside, the next generation macbook pro lower end model will be sizzling hot.
 
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