Early Mac OS X Leopard Notes and Observations

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With the delivery of Mac OS X Leopard, there have been a number of articles detailing individual observations. Here compilation of interesting Leopard tidbits:

Engadget
- No backing up with Time Machine over the drives you have connected via USB to your Airport Extreme (possible workaround)
- Time Machine can backup over the network but only to AFP shares
- Syncing notes to iPhone doesn't work (yet?)

Gizmodo
- no R2D2 hologram effect in iChat (image)
- When you unplug your Time Machine external, nothing happens, but the instant you plug it back in, Time Machine does a backup -- in the background. You never see anything, but it silently backs stuff up every time that drive is connected.
- Feels fast on a PowerBook G4 1.33GHz

David Pogue
- New iChat preference: the preference setting called "Watch for my name in incoming messages." It alerts you any time anyone, in any of the open chats, types your name, even if you're doing something else on the Mac.

MacWorld
- Resizable partitions: Create and resize hard disk partitions on the fly in Leopard.

MacOSXHints
- When you're viewing all of your Spaces (F8), you can press the C key to collect all the windows from all spaces into the first space. Press C again to send them back where they started.



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pieman02

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I like the iChat feature, so if its really important you can get the attention of whoever you're talking to - good idea!
 
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stoutboy1

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I am so so Bumed that we cant use Time machine over airport extreme, my back-up drives is in another room. I hope this is something that they can and will fix real soon (tommorrow:D) please. I hope its not a hardware limitation, and someone can post a work around... Heres to hoping. :apple: your the best you can do it.
 
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thewhitehart

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No hologram effect? I am truly disappointed.

Yeah, it's nothing special compared to the other great innovations Leopard introduces, but it was extremely cool.

Apple shouldn't tease us with stuff they can't deliver on. The poster on Gizmodo was right, it did get a standing ovation.

Unless, of course, they were really sued by Lucasfilm...
 
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Decrepit

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It is impossible to study for exams with new information being posted like this.

But, if all goes well, I'll have finished my exams, picked up my copy of Leopard and have installed it by this time tomorrow.

:)
 
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MacsAttack

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Somewhere it was said that the hologram effect only works on intel machines. Confirm of Deny? Anybody? If Gizmodo were running on only a G4 (which they comment on the speed), then its just one of those things that older machines can't do - like how the old G4 Mac Mini could not do ripples on dashboard.

Frankly - if that sort of thing is the largest issue people have with Leaopard then we are looking good.
 
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BWhaler

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That hint from MacOSX is killer.

That is the type of thing I wouldn't think of asking about until I used Spaces for awhile. Then, it would kill me to not know how to do it.

Of course Apple figured out a way to consolidate all of the windows. Brilliant...
 
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Mac OS X Ocelot

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Somewhere it was said that the hologram effect only works on intel machines. Confirm of Deny? Anybody? If Gizmodo were running on only a G4 (which they comment on the speed), then its just one of those things that older machines can't do - like how the old G4 Mac Mini could not do ripples on dashboard.

Frankly - if that sort of thing is the largest issue people have with Leaopard then we are looking good.
I think that's all effects in iChat, not just the star wars-y one. So if they weren't able to do the other ones they'd not mention that one and would probably be a little more confused. I'd imagine they've tried it on an intel and the powerbook just to be able to comment on the intel and ppc versions together.
 
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Speaking of notes from various reviews, I found this review from ABC interesting because they say that there's no way to delete a file from Time Machine once it's backed up. The implication is that if you need to get rid of any trace of a certain file for security reasons, Time Machine won't let you truly eradicate it from all existence.

If true, this is a pretty huge oversight on Apple's part. As the review says:
Leopard has a "secure empty trash" feature that lets you throw away files so that they can't be recovered with forensic tools. What's the point of erasing a file on the hard drive and then overwriting the disk sectors seven times if Leopard is going to keep a copy of the file in the Time Machine backup?
Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Aside from that, Leopard is sounding pretty impressive. I may buy a copy around 10.5.1 or 10.5.2. ;)
 
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Mac OS X Ocelot

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Speaking of notes from various reviews, I found this review from ABC interesting because they say that there's no way to delete a file from Time Machine once it's backed up. The implication is that if you need to get rid of any trace of a certain file for security reasons, Time Machine won't let you truly eradicate it from all existence.

If true, this is a pretty huge oversight on Apple's part. As the review says:

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Aside from that, Leopard is sounding pretty impressive. I may buy a copy around 10.5.1 or 10.5.2. ;)
That would be a pretty dumb oversight, but I don't give a hoot about Time Machine and will never use it.
 
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SiliconAddict

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Time Machine can backup over the network but only to AFP sharesΩ
That is a massive load of horse crap.:mad:

I have a home server that has served me well over the last 3 years when I rebuilt her. Backups via scrip has run flawlessly. I was looking forward to ditching the script for TM and simply using some of the TB of space I have available. For a time I've been considering buying an external drive just for TM, but I just had an $800+ hospital bill dumped in my lap. That isn't happening anytime soon. This better be hacked in short order, dang short. :mad:
 
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JPT

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May I be the stupid n00b and ask, "What's AFP?"? Me has no clue :D
 
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- No backing up with Time Machine over the drives you have connected via USB to your Airport Extreme
I could've sworn AirPort support was on Apple's official feature list at one point. I've just gone and emptied out my AirPort drive too!

May I be the stupid n00b and ask, "What's AFP?"? Me has no clue :D
Apple Filing Protocol, the "normal" way of sharing Mac volumes.
 
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arn

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I could've sworn AirPort support was on Apple's official feature list at one point. I've just gone and emptied out my AirPort drive too!
It was

http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/2007/10/timemachineairportdisk/index.php

Is the option to use an AirPort Disk with Time Machine no longer in the cards? Given how specific the original text was, and the fact that it’s been purged from the new page while other text remains verbatim, the change doesn’t bode well for those hoping to use an AirPort Disk for wireless Time Machine backups.
 
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artpease

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Oh yeah? https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/4387985/
This might even help with using other network drives...
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It's not nice to mess with mother nature and backups! :eek:

Since Apple removed this feature they once touted, there must be something wrong. So now we have a workaround to shoot ourselves in the foot and screw up our TM backups. Brilliant! :(

If you think so little of your data, why do you bother to back it up? :confused:
 
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