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A serious geek and hardcore whiner, maybe, but these are some seriously ill-informed observations and rehashing of the old "I don't like the top menu, waaahhh (and other I Wish It Were Windows poutings)" all over again.

Thanks for such an in-depth and great post. I got a serious kick out of it. Forwarded it on to my PC geek friend.
 
Well, I guess that's progress...

Goodbye Myst, Riven, Pegasus Prime... :(

I'll have to look into an old CRT iMac or something for those.

if you have an intel mac give Sheep Shaver a try. I think it works for mac OS 7.5 through 9.0 (not 9.1 or 9.2x though)


Apple offers most of the old classic OS's for fre download at:
http://download.info.apple.com/Appl...North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/

http://download.info.apple.com/Appl...ates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/


RealMyst should work in Leopard (through Rosetta)
Riven...some where I read someone trying to make a Mac OS X launcher, but I don't know the progress on it.
(wasn't Cyan doing it though)

I wish VMWare could make a full mac emulator that could emulate PPC for classic OS's 'n such.
 
He is probably on your network without you knowing it then ;-).

PS how did you install, upgrade or not, and if you did use upgrade, how long did yu have the blue screen on , i'm looking at it for 45 minutes now, and i wonder if something went wrong maybe? .

Only did upgrade for the time being, gotta wait for my ex to send me back my iLife 08 disc and my back up HDs and then a clean install will happen. Had blue screen for about 4-5 minutes, not very long.
 
Just installed Leopard onto my machine, very impressed except that the finder is showing my next door neighbors PC on my shared machines, and i don't even know them, let alone have permission from them to access their computer!

that would be a good moment to remind them to put a password on their router... ;)
 
You didn't do a backup? :eek:

I've been Carbon Copy Cloning my iMac all week and I will be installing Leopard in a moment on my MacBook to make sure everything is perfect before I then install it on my iMac.

Nope did not have the time to do so, and wanted to have it up and running as soon as possible., but i restrted from the installl dvd and now i'm doing a archive and install instead, i hope that will still work ;-)
Atleast my ols ssytem still showed up when starting up with alt ;-), so i still have some hope for it to work out .
 
Just installed Leopard onto my machine, very impressed except that the finder is showing my next door neighbors PC on my shared machines, and i don't even know them, let alone have permission from them to access their computer!

Either they are on your network, or you are on theirs. I suggest you figure out which. This could be accidental if both of you have open wifi, or they could be stealing your wifi on purpose (lacking their own).

In either case you should turn on WPA for your wifi (the only wifi security that works) for this and many many other reasons. It's easy to use and just an all around good thing.
 
For those getting the Family pack, how does it work. I got several people who want to do family pack. Is it one disc with 5 registrations, or 5 discs for each person? I went to Apple and the shopping cart does not explain this.


Just wanted to know since people can move or may need copy of the disc at any moment.

Just a single disk with Steve permission in writting that you can use it in 5 machines. If you lack principles you can just buy the single user license and do the same. No registration or nothing, however please do the right thing and buy the 5 license, its not that much expensive and may save you problems in the future.
 
You may need to re-boot, I do not think that is normal.

I did 3 times only thing that came up was a blue screen , now i started from the dvd again and doing a archive and install, hoping to save my data this way ;-).
 
So far so good-

iMac

Everything is faster. Even whilst I'm running a Time Machine backup thing and indexing my hard drives, everything runs just a bit quicker than Tiger. I can't wait for these big tasks to finish so I can get to the top gear.

I'm finding Coverflow more useful than I ever imagined. It really is the biggest feature for me. Sure there are bugs, sometimes it loses the file that is highlighted and you have to click another file and go back again for it to be selected. But that'll be fixed soon no doubt.

PowerBook

Won't boot up! It installed much slower than my iMac and now it just shows the grey bootup screen with that loading graphic spinning over and over. Left it for an hour and it still hasn't come on. I can smell a Target drive backup and fresh Leopard instal.

This is a fantastic OS. Not so much a giant leap from Tiger, but one I'm very glad I made. Seems more visual than ever before and some of these new features are going to make everything so much easier!
 
Another great "feature" the menu bar is now above the display on my 50" Sony HDTV so now I have to blindly click off screen to get the menu to drop down. Can I move the menu to the side or bottom of the screen? If possible I can't find it. Another point greatly in favor of Windows, the menu is on the window it pertains to so you don't have to push the mouse all the way to the top of the screen to work a window at the bottom of the screen, and it would be visible right now on all but maximized windows.

go to "display" in preferences and check (or uncheck) "overscan"
 
Nope did not have the time to do so, and wanted to have it up and running as soon as possible., but i restrted from the installl dvd and now i'm doing a archive and install instead, i hope that will still work ;-)
Atleast my ols ssytem still showed up when starting up with alt ;-), so i still have some hope for it to work out .

So you decided your time was more valuable than your data? That's pretty risky.
 
The archive and install did the trick nothing lost as far as i can see now,jippie ;-).
 
Just a single disk with Steve permission in writting that you can use it in 5 machines. If you lack principles you can just buy the single user license and do the same. No registration or nothing, however please do the right thing and buy the 5 license, its not that much expensive and may save you problems in the future.
Or more precisely, a Family Pack is a single disk with permission to install it on 5 machines at the same residential address, or machines belonging to students whose primary home is at that address. Not for 5 friends at different addresses to share.

I find it amazing that people actually think that Apple will continue to offer specially discounted Family Packs if people abuse them by ignoring the terms of the EULA. A appreciate that I can buy a Family Pack for my 2 home machines, and it costs less than buying a separate copy for each machine.

If Apple intended the Family Pack to be used as a discounted 5-user multi-address pack, it would price it at $499 instead of $199.

We have a good thing going here with the Family Pack - let's not ruin it for ourselves!
 
I love living on the edge , and now i'm going to do a live dj gig with aswell ;-).

Have fun at your gig tonight! Be careful, you might need to make sure the drool from envious onlookers does not get all over your machine. What kind o software are you using for the DJ stuff? Have you tested it's compatability yet?
 
We have a really good thing...

Or more precisely, a Family Pack is a single disk with permission to install it on 5 machines at the same residential address, or machines belonging to students whose primary home is at that address. Not for 5 friends at different addresses to share.

I find it amazing that people actually think that Apple will continue to offer specially discounted Family Packs if people abuse them by ignoring the terms of the EULA. A appreciate that I can buy a Family Pack for my 2 home machines, and it costs less than buying a separate copy for each machine.

If Apple intended the Family Pack to be used as a discounted 5-user multi-address pack, it would price it at $499 instead of $199.

We have a good thing going here with the Family Pack - let's not ruin it for ourselves!

We really do have it great right now. However, the more that ELUA's are ignored, the sooner we'll have Microsoft-like registration keys. $199 for 5 licenses is awesome. Use what you pay for. Apple spends a lot of time and money creating the best OS for a very reasonable price.
 
We really do have it great right now. However, the more that ELUA's are ignored, the sooner we'll have Microsoft-like registration keys. $199 for 5 licenses is awesome. Use what you pay for. Apple spends a lot of time and money creating the best OS for a very reasonable price.

Agreed. I easily could have dowloaded this off the torrent sites, but I respect Apple way too much and feel more than happy to hand over $129 for the Super Deluxe Mega Awsome Edition.

Now, only 1.74 hours till I get home where my kitty awaits. Unfortuneately I recently got word that my wife and I are going to a friends house for dinner. Hope they don't mind me installing software during dinner :rolleyes:
 
I just installed Leopard! Received my order this morning but didn't get a chance to install it 'till this afternoon.
Looks good so far, but I've only been on it for 5 min. Let the goodies unfold! :D
 
A serious IT geek and hardcore PC user friend of mine received his copy via FedEx at 10:45 central time today. I believe he was installing on an older Mac Mini. Here are his initial comments:

"After 2 hour install - 40 minutes of which was a ridiculous self-validation of the DVD contents - it looks exactly the same with a different background.

Any "serious IT geek and hardcore PC user" who doesn't notice the "skip" button loses many, many points in my book...
 
Powerbook 867MHz G4

Installed fine - though some messing about with the keychain after an upgrade (because I didn't have enough disk for archive and install). Seems to be running ok, though not exactly blistering fast!
 
Blue Screen

Well it looks like i'm in trouble, all i get is blue screen no matter what i do, i'm going to be losing al my files on the machine , now, i see no other way the to ersa and install
Damn.

I had the same problem and the blue screen didn't go away. After calling Apple Tech Support and trying many things that did not work. I ended up installing Leopard again and archiving. That worked for me.
 
It is not yet officialy reported. We will be hearing all the cry babies soon about how the workaround corrupted their files and caused they systems to hang. Then they will blame Apple.

Wait for it, it is coming.

Seems to be working fine here out of the box. My iTech headset shows up as "Headset" and "Headphones". If I select "Headphones" I get proper A2DP stereo bluetooth audio. If I use "Headset" it uses a much inferior headset audio profile. Works fine in iChat though.
 
I got it FedEx at 1pm. Installed.

IT BOMBED!

Not sure what or why, it just said it failed and there is an unknown problem, need to restart.
After that my primary drive vanished!
OSX wouldn't find the drive.
So I repaired it, and all that (wasn't anything wrong with it, that i could find).
Rebooted Leopard and sat there watching the drive choice window and 5 minutes later the primary drive SLOWLY crept in grey, then ok.

Installed.
Worked.

Makes me nervous about this drive though. Was the original 250GIG that came with the computer, and it might be a piece of crap ready to bomb.

10.5: nice.
It IS fast; snappy.
The features are great.
Spaces is still a hassle and a little of a burden.
Time Machine isn't recognizing my AirPort drive.
Mail is wonderful.
Finder is great.

All the people whining about transparency are whiners. Shut up.
 
Running Leopard right now on my 1.2GHz Quicksilver, and everything seems fine! It's not sluggish, and all of the animations and programs are working great. Also, the "upgrade" install only took about an hour on this machine.
 
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