They increased the price of only the high end model, but the mid priced Macbook costs the same as before, and the base model costs $100 less than it did a week ago and still has Firewire.
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They increased the price of only the high end model, but the mid priced Macbook costs the same as before, and the base model costs $100 less than it did a week ago and still has Firewire.
The only good news is...
That now I can buy the Mac Books that REALLY WORKS "cheaper" because they have been discontinued.
On the other hand, I am pretty sure the discontinued ones are gonna be more expensive because those are the ones that REALLY WORKS.
It reminds me when the Powerbook G3 Pismo was replaced by the Titanium 15". It took Apple 3 more revisions to barely achieve the functionality of the Pismos.
Actually when the Ti G4 powerbook came I bought 2 more Pismos a few months later, the last one stoped working last year... almost 7 years later!!!
That now I can buy the Mac Books that REALLY WORKS "cheaper" because they have been discontinued.
On the other hand, I am pretty sure the discontinued ones are gonna be more expensive because those are the ones that REALLY WORKS.
It reminds me when the Powerbook G3 Pismo was replaced by the Titanium 15". It took Apple 3 more revisions to barely achieve the functionality of the Pismos.
Actually when the Ti G4 powerbook came I bought 2 more Pismos a few months later, the last one stoped working last year... almost 7 years later!!!
This is good news for me. I'd expect my 2.5 ghz to rank thrid on that list. And considering the differences aren't too high, I'm nowhere near worried.
Now in 2009/2010, performance differences will be large enough to buy a new machine.
Now in 2009/2010, performance differences will be large enough to buy a new machine.
Cpu heat issues
Does anyone know the watts of the new CPU and the heat issues?
I have to know this before I can buy a unit!
Help.
TIA
Does anyone know the watts of the new CPU and the heat issues?
I have to know this before I can buy a unit!
Help.
TIA
I would still be waiting for the Nehalem update myself but I couldn't hold out any longer. My PB G4 was getting too long in the tooth and I was starting to experience logic board problems and failures to boot.
I ordered the new 15" MBP 2.8GHz, 4GB Ram, 320 GB @ 7200 RPM HDD. I haven't received it yet but I am really excited. This new machine will completely destroy my old PB. Unfortunately I have the uneasy feeling that in 10 or 11 months the Nehalem update will make this years top of the line look like my old PB G4.
That's right! I keep forgetting that it's still an integrated chip. It's just SO much of an improvement (hopefully anyway) that I keep thinking it's a dedicated chip.
Not a bad plan. I did similar (getting only 2 years though) moving away from my 2006 MB (Core2) into the new MBP. My increase in performance (photo editing) has more than doubled (IMHO) and I should be set for a couple years with this setup
Looking forward to post Nehalem system releases myself
I did that with my Core 2 MBP too. I had a chance at a half price Penryn with the job, so I traded up after a year, but I would have kept it otherwise... like my aging G5 tower which won't be updated until Nehalem Mac Pros come out.
I remember those days somewhat. Back then, updating your software meant getting a new machine. Now, since any machine can do email and word processing without thought, most users don't really need to trade in every year. Even in the pro market, it can be done every 4 years or more depending on the situation.
My paper has twenty or more first gen G5 towers that are pushing 5 years. They run fine without a problem or bottleneck while editing D3 RAW images in CS2.
Main point. I can't wait to see new chips in these smoking hot new cases.
Digitalbiker At your previous state, with a G4 book, I wouldn't have waiting until Nehalem at all. I would have picked up the same model you currently have. Now that we finally have a dual 2.8GHz option my heart is sold on there being a 3GHz MBP by middle or end of 09.
Boot Camp == SLI?
This original led some people to believe that both GPUs were being used. This has since been denied by NVIDIA. The discrepancy is hard to explain, however, so we may have to wait for more benchmarks to believe these dramatic gains.
Yeah, but the tests were run under Boot Camp. NVIDIA only said it wasn't running SLI in OS X, right? This would be good news for SLI once Apple's engineers have time to implement it. Apple does have a pretty long record of putting off doable improvements (as a Java programmer, I've been hit with them again and again) in the interest of releasing now.
This original led some people to believe that both GPUs were being used. This has since been denied by NVIDIA. The discrepancy is hard to explain, however, so we may have to wait for more benchmarks to believe these dramatic gains.
Yeah, but the tests were run under Boot Camp. NVIDIA only said it wasn't running SLI in OS X, right? This would be good news for SLI once Apple's engineers have time to implement it. Apple does have a pretty long record of putting off doable improvements (as a Java programmer, I've been hit with them again and again) in the interest of releasing now.
They definitely won't be anymore expensive. You can still buy them brand new from Apple Online at $999.00.
But you are kidding yourself if you think the old MB REALLY WORKS compared to the new MB. The new macbook will chew up the old MB and spit it out when it comes to graphic intensive programs such as; Aperture, iMovie, Logic, FCE, Photoshop, games, etc.
Most likely when Snow Leopard is released the entire OS will be more graphics intensive and will offload many tasks to the GPU. So the new MB will be able to support all the functions of Snow Leopard. Most likely the lowly intel integrated chipset will not be able to take advantage of those enhancements.
how 'bout a scratch test? anyone got a big bag full of razors and keys they wanna drop the macbook into and shake around?
Blender test may also be nice
I'm thinking that it should be available in the MBP in Q4 2009 or Q1 2010, unless Apple gets the platform into produciton early, in that case possibly after WWDC 09
can't wait to replace my 1.67 G4 PB
My understanding is that you can not run in Boost mode, both GPUs simultaneously, unless the discrete GPU is a 9500M class or less.
The 9600M GT cannot run in boost mode and even if it could you would not get any performance difference. This is the same for both Vista, XP, Linux, & OS X.
Last I heard it was estimated to be out late 3rd or 4th qtr 2009. But I don't know if it is still on schedule.
We should probably get an update on the target date when intel releases the first desktop Nehalem cpu.
That sounds like a long time into the future, not sure how long my PB 1.67 15 Inch is going to continue to work.
I have my fingers crossed that Snow Leopard give the late 2008 MB and MBP a big kick in performance.
The speed will be noticeable once we get into 1333+ speeds. There was a similar problem going from DDR to DDR2. What corrected it was far higher speeds. Plus integrated memory controller will make the latency issue almost a moot point.
I would be worried that SLI with two differing chips may force AFR which is a waste as the slower GPU will drag the faster GPU down. Besides not a whole lot of programs play well with SFR, nor does it help with geometry load.
AFAIK 2H'09
My early 2008 macbook is better for the same price
i recently got the white macbook with 2.4GHz processor which cost $1299 ok now the recent macbook that replaced the $1299 model with 2.0GHz has got lower benchmarks scores and yet its the same price, how does that work out.
turns out your getting less power for your money with the new macbook
so glad i got mine before the new ones.
i know the new ones will be better for graphics but still in general performance wtf.
i recently got the white macbook with 2.4GHz processor which cost $1299 ok now the recent macbook that replaced the $1299 model with 2.0GHz has got lower benchmarks scores and yet its the same price, how does that work out.
turns out your getting less power for your money with the new macbook
so glad i got mine before the new ones.
i know the new ones will be better for graphics but still in general performance wtf.
SFR = Split Frame Rendering
AFR = Alternate Frame Rendering
My wifes eyes just glaze over when I talk computers with her.
Surprising to see that the new fast DDR3 RAM doesn't provide even a small boost in performance.
It will be very interesting to see how much juice Snow Leopard will be able to squeeze from the GPUs in the new machines. I expect that Old MacBook Pro vs. New MacBook Pro on Snow Leopard will give a clear victory to the new models.
PS: Why does every single thread have to be invaded by the "No Firewire!"-squad. It's getting extremely annoying. It de-rails the discussion - it's off topic. Please stop (we already know how you feel about the lack of Firewire on the new MacBook).
It will be very interesting to see how much juice Snow Leopard will be able to squeeze from the GPUs in the new machines. I expect that Old MacBook Pro vs. New MacBook Pro on Snow Leopard will give a clear victory to the new models.
PS: Why does every single thread have to be invaded by the "No Firewire!"-squad. It's getting extremely annoying. It de-rails the discussion - it's off topic. Please stop (we already know how you feel about the lack of Firewire on the new MacBook).
It should, but I think I read that this is due to the chipset not being as optimized as it could be. Nvidia still has some tweaks in the works I have a feeling.
WHUT HAPINED 2 FIREWIRE....WHAAAAAAAAAH... ok just kidding
So does most of this forum, I find.
SFR = Split Frame Rendering
AFR = Alternate Frame Rendering
My wifes eyes just glaze over when I talk computers with her.