Oooooo, so does this mean that VZW's 4G/LTE network will support data/voice assuming Apple releases a 4G capable iPhone 5?
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Oooooo, so does this mean that VZW's 4G/LTE network will support data/voice assuming Apple releases a 4G capable iPhone 5?
This can be a fair comparison sometimes. Two of my friends have VZW blackberries and they get three or four bars in places I get one or two. (sometimes zero) AT&T's network has some significant holes in the Minneapolis area. Not to mention there are places where I get 5 bars of 3G but can't connect to data at all. To me that indicates a problem with the towers themselves. (though I'm not sure)
I believe there is no technical reasoning as to why Verizon's CDMA 3G network does not support voice and data simultaneously other than Verizon has not implemented this feature.
Nevertheless, I believe Verizon has said the LTE network will implement/support simultaneous voice and data.
LTE actually doesn't have a "voice" system. LTE is data-only, meaning phone calls will use a data (internet) connection. Although, this is going to take a while to implement, and early LTE networks will fall back on the 3G/2G network for voice.
I'm disappointed none of the reviews did "real-world" speed tests. We all know AT&T will beat Verizon on raw data speeds, but how does that effect what 95% of people use their iPhones for? How will web pages load? How will apps download? How quick will apps load data like Twitter and Facebook?
My guess is there won't be too much difference between the two on that. The advantage will be AT&T for those who download large files.
My guess is there won't be too much difference between the two on that. The advantage will be AT&T for those who download large files.
My guess is this, based on bandwidth results: Apps will be slower to download because that relies more on bandwidth. Image-heavy web sites will be a bit slower for the same reason. Image-light websites might be a little bit quicker on VZW since the latency (ping) is lower. Twitter and Facebook might be a bit quicker since most of the downloaded data is text, which comes back to latency. (stuff like profile pictures are probably cached by Facebook and most Twitter apps)
I had a wireless networks course this past fall, so I should have remembered this about 4G. Still Verizon will have to, of course, implement the protocols to differentiate the services.
Exactly. Setting up a VoIP system that you plan on migrating millions of customers to is no small task, so it's not surprising they'll fall back on existing infrastructure at first. (especially considering voice calls benefit less from 4G speeds)
To be honest, I don't understand how people can get that fast speed with AT&T. AT&T speed in my area is horrible, with upload speed never goes above dial-up (~50-60kbps) speed. 2011 is even worse, as now there are plenty of times where I suddenly lost data connectivity, even with full bars.
"if you're using the Internet and your phone rings, your Internet connection immediately drops"
That's enough for me NOT to change right there.
I HAVE TO ABLE TO DO THIS. I literally use the net on my phone WHILE ON THE PHONE almost every day.
Next thread.
That's enough for me NOT to change right there.
I HAVE TO ABLE TO DO THIS. I literally use the net on my phone WHILE ON THE PHONE almost every day.
Next thread.
That's pretty much what I'm thinking also. The vast majority of people won't even really notice a difference speed wise between the two networks.
I used to be one of the more vocal haters of AT&T's network.
But I will admit, in the last year or so, they've made HUGE improvements here in southern California.
I now get a 3G signal everywhere I used to get a Verizon signal, 1x or 3G.
When I had Verizon, I had more dropped calls in one week than I've had with AT&T in the last year.
In fact, the only time I have a dropped call now is when I talk to someone on Verizon. If I talk to someone on Sprint, T-Mobile, AT&T, Virgin, MetroPCS, etc. I have no issues at all. But if I talk to someone on Verizon or a service that uses Verizon's network, like Straight Talk or Tracfone, calls can and do drop.
However, the real problem here is that AT&T and Verizon overcharge for the services they provide by a very large margin. As much as I love my iPhone 4, I will never sign another cellphone contract again. Signing this contract with AT&T was a huge mistake. I will not do it again.
But I will admit, in the last year or so, they've made HUGE improvements here in southern California.
I now get a 3G signal everywhere I used to get a Verizon signal, 1x or 3G.
When I had Verizon, I had more dropped calls in one week than I've had with AT&T in the last year.
In fact, the only time I have a dropped call now is when I talk to someone on Verizon. If I talk to someone on Sprint, T-Mobile, AT&T, Virgin, MetroPCS, etc. I have no issues at all. But if I talk to someone on Verizon or a service that uses Verizon's network, like Straight Talk or Tracfone, calls can and do drop.
However, the real problem here is that AT&T and Verizon overcharge for the services they provide by a very large margin. As much as I love my iPhone 4, I will never sign another cellphone contract again. Signing this contract with AT&T was a huge mistake. I will not do it again.
CNET begs to differ. In their tests Verizon clearly looks superior:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20030274-233.html?tag=contentBody;topStories
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20030274-233.html?tag=contentBody;topStories
vERIZON WILL BE MUCH BETTER IN ALL WAYS, I DONT CARE ABOUT SPEEDS I CARE ABOUT RELIABILITY AND BETTER SERVICE, AT&T SUCKS!!!!!
Not a surprise, really. It's very well known that AT&T doesn't have great coverage in San Fran.
A better test would be a place where they both have good coverage, like here in Houston. At least then the comparison would be Apples to Apples. There are places where AT&T has better coverage and there are places where Verizon has better coverage.
That's the great thing about offering more options...hopefully people won't have to settle now.
I have no complaints with AT&T's service in Houston. But if it was awful, I would be happy to switch.
I have a question about Verizon 3G service...
Since you can't do phone call and use the internet at the same time...
What if I have skype and Line2 running 24/7 on the Verizon iPhone? Does that mean my regular phone won't ring and get sent to voicemail?
Since you can't do phone call and use the internet at the same time...
What if I have skype and Line2 running 24/7 on the Verizon iPhone? Does that mean my regular phone won't ring and get sent to voicemail?