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iTunes is the best. Been using it for years and years. I could have gone with something different but I've always used iTunes. Tried Amazon for a minute, tried manual music in Windows, tried Spotify, etc. Stuck with iTunes. Due to that fact, it just doesn't feel right to say that it sucks. I really don't think it sucks. I think it's actually quite good at what it does. :confused: ;)
 
I haven't listened to the full show, but by reading this article, they sound kinda whiny towards the end. As the market leader you need to lead by example and put out quality software or risk getting buried. You have the most users? So what. You also have the most money. Figure it out.

As they rightly mention, Apple has always been more disruptive when it comes to making changes that upset people. Most of us are used to that by now. We just want things to work well with minimal clutter. iOS 9 helped quite a bit with stability, although to be honest I've mostly only been using it on devices with 2GB of RAM which also helps reduce crashing. But I don't think it went far enough—especially on the Mac side of things. And they NEED to keep the Mac users happy because those are the users building the web, designing and/or coding their App Store apps, and often telling stories. You need to keep those people engaged and happy about what you're doing to keep them coming back and building stuff for your platform and not being vocal complainers online. As a web and app UI/UX designer myself, I know that we play a significant role in pushing the narrative online through social media, sites like Medium, forums and blogs as well as word of mouth recommendations to friends, family and colleagues who trust our technological judgement.

I can see the need to push out new features every year, but that was never the way Apple used to be. Are all of these new features nice and useful? Yeah. But Apple used to take their time to get things right, even if it meant falling behind temporarily in features. Even so they're still behind in some regards. But that's the nature of the tech space. Everyone is constantly filling in ever-expanding gaps every year. Maybe it's time for Apple to say they're not going to play that game. They need to strengthen their UX, services and underlying code base.

To borrow an analogy from my photography courses, my professors would always say we need to nail our exposure first before we worry about color balancing, dodging and burning, or any other fancy things we can do to improve our photograph. Same thing goes for software. Nail the underlying structure and code efficiency before you start bolting on all the fancy bits and bobs that most people won't use as a whole but look good on a spec sheet compared to Android. Things like custom keyboards are a prime example. They're still not that good, even after all this time. If your structure can't handle it, don't bolt it on and hope for the best!
 
"Cue and Federighi went on to talk about the issues that arise whenever Apple makes major changes to software, as there are always people who prefer not to see significant changes. According to Federighi, there's a "tricky balancing act" with software updates."People are serious about their music and their collection, and so I think we debate pretty heavily internally the right way to evolve these things. We tend to error on the side of being pretty bold, but there's a lot of responsibility."


Eddy, Craig (da man)
There is a huge differance in eveloving things towards a better user experiance and devolving things to a convoluted mess.

There is no tricky balancing act there...its pure negligence and/or bad decision making.
And itunes or applemusic are not the only areas of problem.
 
Music - 60k songs
Movies - 890
TV Episodes - 2,256

How about making iTunes handle everything I have put into it. And a better interface on my 4 Apple TV's to access my local media.
 
iTunes should be broken into apps that reflect what already exist on iOS

- Music with ones music library (including Apple Music) and access to the iTunes music library
- Videos with ones movie and tv library (with space for future streaming services) and access to the iTunes video library
- Sync Center a place where other devices can negociate and sync controls can be issued between them and various local media
 
So many typos/errors…

I’m still using iTunes 10.7, in large part because it has iTunes DJ, and I’m pretty happy with it.

Wasn’t iTunes 11 supposed to be a full rewrite dealing with the supposed bloatedness of iTunes 10?
 
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iTunes is terrible for large movie and TV show libraries. I have to use a third part app to handle a very large library across multiple drives. Cloud is a joke too. I can't count on a movie I purchase today showing up in iCloud tomorrow. Movies and TV show just disappear without any warning.

I agree. Most of the discussion is on Music but many of us use it for Movies/TV Shows and not Music at all. A separate app for movies and TV Shows would be great. The present iTunes tries to do too many things right now.
 
iTunes is the best. Been using it for years and years. I could have gone with something different but I've always used iTunes. Tried Amazon for a minute, tried manual music in Windows, tried Spotify, etc. Stuck with iTunes. Due to that fact, it just doesn't feel right to say that it sucks. I really don't think it sucks. I think it's actually quite good at what it does. :confused: ;)

I agree it's the best Mac/Windows app for managing large music collections. My issue is the way Apple Music has been so poorly integrated into it and shouldn't have been integrated into it in the first place.
 
No. It needs to be like how it is on iOS.

Music App

+Buy Music
+Stream Music
+Radio
Video App
+Live TV
+Stream Movies
+Stream Shows
Books App
+Books
+Audiobooks
Podcast App
App Store App

+Mac App Store
+iOS App Store

Exactly. It would be constituent across OS's and so much cleaner. Why movies, TV shows, and podcasts need to be in the same bloated app (with a name like iTunes) is beyond me. iOS handles media organization so much better with its focused, smaller apps.
 
I don't know. The newest versions of the iTunes have been horrible. Personally, I miss the older older UI

I agree. I forget what update it was, but I loved iTunes until they took away the ability to have playlists opened in a separate window.

That was the beginning of the end for me. I can't stand using iTunes anymore. Also, the music app on iOS 9 has really taken a crap.

Sometimes I think there are people at Apple that deliberately screws up their stuff just to see if people will still stick with Apple.
 
iTunes and the music app are both cramped, overly complicated and unintuitive. It's too late for them to fix in my case. I have given up and switched to Spotify. I will be using iTunes for loading iOS updates only.

I am just so torn between both services. I like the idea of iTunes combining my music library with the streaming catalogue and just being able to take my previous music with me, just as I had it before. However, iTunes is in such a shocking state at the moment and it really needs some serious work. I bought another month of Apple Music at around Christmas and it got even worse than during my trial. Lots of music was suddenly not correctly labelled anymore (I’m pretty sure it was before my subscription ended), there even was an ‘album’ of ~150 songs that had no cover art, no song title, no artist information. The song information are effectively indistinguishable unless I recognise them by listening and I have no clue how I am going to clean this up (I don’t even WANT to do this). Nothing in this interview even hints at an admission that something is seriously wrong with that program.
 
Functionality has been removed for display options. I much prefer a list view, but that is gone in many areas.

I really miss the old list view. My friend used to make fun of iTunes for looking too much like Excel. In my opinion, the more it looks like Excel the better. But what we got instead is Coverflow, which is nearly useless but looks great in a TV ad.
 
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