Eddy Cue Wanted to Port iMessage to Android in 2013 According to Epic Deposition

[123]

how did you come up with 5%?

Like I said, it's a reasonable number in the correct ballpark (2.9%). The additional 2.1% are somewhat justifiable. But we can agree on 4% if that sounds better to you.

 

[123]

I’m sure they have no problems not incurring the cost in bandwidth for distribution the liability of maintaining that distribution or the liability of refunds of that distribution

what??

You know what Spotify does, right? Ecerything is already handled and no "liability of maintaining that distribution" or whatever is relevant in their case as they do everything themselves already, content distribution, payment and everything that goes along with it.

 

[macbookfan]

Did you know that:

1. Apple's Xcode is one of the worst IDEs?

2. Good IDEs and dev tools are actually in the hundreds, not in the thousands (look at JetBrains, for example)

3. There are tons of models to recoup costs without having to force everyone into using unwanted content and subscription payment schemes that have absolutely nothing to do with Apple's dev tools and infrastructure.

1. This is irrelevant.

2. I recently had to pay $2500 for a framework my company uses to maintain legacy software. Your point again irrelevant. As things cost a wide range, and the amount of time Apple has sunk into the OS/tools development is what really matters. Even if said tools are crap.

3. Also irrelevant. Apple is allowed to use whatever business model they want. They used to charge for Xcode. Now they don’t. They used to charge a lot each year to have a developer account. If I remember correctly around $1000. Now it’s $100. Just because you don’t like the business model doesn’t make it invalid.

 

[DeepIn2U]

By many accounts, he was also unbearable for many of the other Apple executives to work with.

So I guess Tim Could have let Scott go... or Craig, Phil, and god knows who else.

It was an understandable move. Culture matters.

don’t believe the media BS, I think it was only between Tim, Forstall primarily, and Federighi secondary.

you also forgot about the biggest reports for 3yrs prior to his (Forestall) ousting: that He was in line to replace Jobs. That alone would cause serious angst between all 3! Now do you see what most likely was the only issue?

I also feel Craig makes or alone far too many basic & idiotic mistakes; twice allowing a production build of macOS with NO Sudo password !!

Most likely Craig & Forstall would and did but heads becaus recall iOS has macOS or OS X kernel and many core components shared. Any changes Craig would’ve proposed after beloved developer Bertrand Serlet was preparing to leave Apple leaving I wonder whom in charge?

 

[123]

1. This is irrelevant.

2. I recently had to pay $2500 for a framework my company uses to maintain legacy software. Your point again irrelevant. As things cost a wide range, and the amount of time Apple has sunk into the OS/tools development is what really matters. Even if said tools are crap.

3. Also irrelevant. Apple is allowed to use whatever business model they want. They used to charge for Xcode. Now they don’t. They used to charge a lot each year to have a developer account. If I remember correctly around $1000. Now it’s $100. Just because you don’t like the business model doesn’t make it invalid.

1. Very relevant

2. Comparable tools (iOS development) are $100. If anything is irrelevant here, then it is your tool which has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

3. No, Apple is not allowed to do whatever they want, hence why they will lose in court. And rightfully so.

 

[macbookfan]

1. Very relevant

2. Comparable tools (iOS development) are $100. If anything is irrelevant here, then it is your tool which has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

3. No, Apple is not allowed to do whatever they want, hence why they will lose in court. And rightfully so.

3. I’ll see you when they win.