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Edited iMessages in iOS 16 Now Display Original Text, Undo Send Limited to Two Minutes

incoherent_1 said:
You gotta pick your poison, unfortunately.
  • iMessage is 5-10 years outdated and doesn't work if a single person in a group is using Android
  • Telegram has had 1,000+ accounts hacked
  • Signal is clumsy, lacks features, and has the smallest userbase
  • WhatsApp is owned by satan incarnate
Sadly, the reality is that due to work and social obligations, I have to use all 4. What we really need is an integrated app that pulls together all of these conversations and is platform agnostic. I find it infuriating that I have to hop between 4 different texting apps and constantly keep track of which Group/conversation is where.
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Are you the EU? 🤣
 
ErikGrim said:
People below iOS 16 still see edited messages. It's just unsending of messages that don't work there.

You can't unsend an already read message.
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Just curious: I’ve heard this mentioned before, but can find no documentation of this limitation. Is this how it works in the iOS 16 Beta?

(By which I mean Read messages having the Unsent option taken away before the time limit is up. )
 
incoherent_1 said:
What we really need is an integrated app that pulls together all of these conversations and is platform agnostic. I find it infuriating that I have to hop between 4 different texting apps and constantly keep track of which Group/conversation is where.
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Sounds nice, but whoever owns that app would gain access to messages from all four messengers.

That was easy to do in the era of Adium, Trillian, etc. when users didn't expect privacy and corporations didn't abuse it as easily. But we don't live in that era.

This is tricky. Apple might be able to do a special UIView that shows a text to the user but makes it impossible for the app to actually read the text.
 
chucker23n1 said:
Sounds nice, but whoever owns that app would gain access to messages from all four messengers.

That was easy to do in the era of Adium, Trillian, etc. when users didn't expect privacy and corporations didn't abuse it as easily. But we don't live in that era.

This is tricky. Apple might be able to do a special UIView that shows a text to the user but makes it impossible for the app to actually read the text.
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Yep. I agree it isn't easy, but this, to me, is one of the biggest UX nightmares shared by much of the population.

Everyone I know in the US has this issue, and -- as someone who lives abroad where free SMS within the region isn't ubiquitous, it's a nightmare. Every. Single. Person. I know here has at least 3 texting apps. Usually 5-6.
 
Dark_Omen said:
We all make mistakes at one point or another. The ability to slander people because of a text or email comment is a joke. I think every platform needs an undo feature. If the receiver doesn’t read it, where is the harm?
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So your argument here is that if you abuse someone over text or email you think it’s unfair that they can in turn “slander” you by holding your “mistake” against you.

This is a wild idea here that’s never really been tested out before so take my suggestion with a grain of salt but what if you tried, oh I don’t know, apologizing to someone who you hurt with your words rather than asking apple for a magic eraser to hide behind? Also, another total shot in the dark here, but you could try considering other people’s feelings rather than obsessing over managing your reputation and maybe you might just be more considerate with your words and not lash out and then later regret what you said.
 
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So, this is how they “fix” AutoCorrect?

/sarcasm

I used a BlackBerry Z10 for a couple of years. Its text prediction and auto correction capabilities in 2013 were light-years ahead of iOS 15.6 in 2022.
 
bwillwall said:
It is NOT Apple's place to document stuff that people haven't managed to document themselves.

This is the DUMBEST change I have ever heard. This defeats the entire purpose and is a massive privacy violation.
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How is this anymore of a privacy violation then what exists right now?
Since 2011, there’s been absolutely no editing, no unsending, nothing for iMessage.
If you hit the send button, you hit the send button and you lose all privacy to what was in that message.
That’s not changing.
The edit button was never supposed to be for shielding crappy things you said, simply for convenience
 
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nwcs said:
How is it pointless? Just because it doesn’t feature the specific benefit you want?
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If people can see the original, edited message, it does nothing. There is no benefit. There is no feature. It's just nothing.
 
ian87w said:
I generally dislike the idea of editing sent messages. Not only it creates a window for abuse/harassment, it really teaches people to not think before they type.

I remember the days when we only had SMS, and it was charged per message. Meaning it cost money per message you sent. Information was more concise and efficient. Now, with unlimited text and free text over data, people are texting willy nilly since there's no cost to them.
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LOL I read some article about how much K cost to send
 
The one problem is that the process can work well if there isn't an active conversation going on, but becomes inefficient or useless if there is. It can either wait the 2 minutes to even send the message, or if you edit or undo when the recipient isn't in messages, it would only show the edit or nothing if you undid. But you were in an active conversation, who wants to wait two minutes between messages, and nothing could be undone or edited.
 
cocky jeremy said:
If people can see the original, edited message, it does nothing. There is no benefit. There is no feature. It's just nothing.
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Quite an extreme position. There’s totally a benefit. You just don’t want to accept it. You prefer your editing to be unaudited. Me, I don’t care if someone checked my edit history and saw I changed a word or corrected a misspelling.
 
nwcs said:
Quite an extreme position. There’s totally a benefit. You just don’t want to accept it. You prefer your editing to be unaudited. Me, I don’t care if someone checked my edit history and saw I changed a word or corrected a misspelling.
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Then why make the damn edit to begin with? It's stupid and pointless.
 
cocky jeremy said:
No opinion on anything is ever shared by everyone. It doesn't make it an "extreme" opinion. It's just one based on facts and information.
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And I don't understand people getting so bent out of shape about a freaking feature to edit/undo messsages
 
cocky jeremy said:
No opinion on anything is ever shared by everyone. It doesn't make it an "extreme" opinion. It's just one based on facts and information.
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What makes it an opinion that is extreme is obvious when you literally say “It's stupid and pointless.” To even say that is based on “facts and information” is ridiculous. It’s an opinion based on your own desired feature set. Has nothing to do with “facts and information”.
 
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