So obviously for you, this feature is a "meh" reaction. You can go on with life without ever using it and it won't affect you. I think it's useful as I hate having typos in my messages. Also edit for autocorrect that changes your words on you is nice.
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Edited iMessages in iOS 16 Now Display Original Text, Undo Send Limited to Two Minutes
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Using "*" on the typo is still way more efficient than "editing" the entire message lol
The problem now is that a lot of people will avoid upgrading to iOS 16 to avoid edits altogether now.
It’s just going to slow adoption of iOS 16 I’m afraid.
It’s just going to slow adoption of iOS 16 I’m afraid.
I don't think it will matter to the update % all that much. People on macrumors are not normal people.
LOL! you know what I mean.
One ☝️ major point is if you introduce a feature then that’s the bar you expect when it releases. That’s what got you excited about it. Hell, I thought 15 minutes was too short a time. Now it’s only 2 minutes, and they can see what you originally edited? I can see them throwing away the feature completely at this rate.
And they’ll probably get rid of the unsend feature as well if they’re worried about threats of violence. For example, and correct me if I’m wrong, I can send someone a message threatening harm.. then once I know they read it I can unsend it. Yeah both features are done because of WOMEN’s groups.
And they’ll probably get rid of the unsend feature as well if they’re worried about threats of violence. For example, and correct me if I’m wrong, I can send someone a message threatening harm.. then once I know they read it I can unsend it. Yeah both features are done because of WOMEN’s groups.
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You can't always use screenshots as evidence or proof since they can be easily doctored. You'd also have to somehow prove that your screenshot is real. Already posted an example earlier just by using an online site to create it. Or to be even more realistic, one could send actual messages to a friend or another device/account of theirs to screenshot in order to frame someone else...
No matter how they do it there's always some drawback. That's my point. Forums or messages, same problem.
I don't see any benefits in the edit history not existing other than avoiding embarrassment or accountability. Don't know why that's something people want so badly.
FFFFAAAACCCCKKKK See proofreading volume 1 page 295.
With the fourth betas of iOS 16 and iPadOS 16 that were released today, Apple tweaked the edit and unsend features that are available for iMessages. When you edit a message, the edit history is now sent to the recipient along with the edit, so the original content is visible.
On an edited iMessage, you can tap on the small blue "Edited" label to see the edit history, and it can be hidden again by tapping on "Hide Edits." Prior to this beta, an edited message noted that it was edited, but there was no option to tap and see the previous messages that were sent.
In addition to adding an edit history, iMessages can now only be edited a total of five times before the "Edit" option disappears, but there's still a 15 minute window for making an edit.
As noted by Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, the Edit history can be avoided by unsending an iMessage and resending it, but Apple has also implemented an Undo Send limitation. You're now only able to unsend an iMessage for up to two minutes after it's delivered, down from the original 15 minute timing.
It is worth noting that Undo Send and Edit are limited to iOS 16 devices, and the original messages are displayed on devices running iOS 15 or earlier.
Article Link: Edited iMessages in iOS 16 Now Display Original Text, Undo Send Limited to Two Minutes
Can we at least get a scheduled message feature like email did? That would be more useful than all this nonsense.
There already is an edit and unsend feature built into our skulls and thumbs. It’s called proofread and think twice before you hit send.
There already is an edit and unsend feature built into our skulls and thumbs. It’s called proofread and think twice before you hit send.
If they’re going to display all the edits, then just remove the feature. It’s pointless how is it any different from just sending a corrected text like most people do
Exactly.
Also let’s be clear, edit isn’t meant to let you take back things you wish you hadn’t said. Apple isn’t here to supplement someone’s lack of self control. It’s there to help you fix typos or wrong directions or what have you.
Also, how dark is it that some people openly thumbs downed your comment?
Well said. I'm starting to understand apple's view now, which I believe is exactly as you stated.
I generally dislike the idea of editing sent messages. Not only it creates a window for abuse/harassment, it really teaches people to not think before they type.
I remember the days when we only had SMS, and it was charged per message. Meaning it cost money per message you sent. Information was more concise and efficient. Now, with unlimited text and free text over data, people are texting willy nilly since there's no cost to them.
I remember the days when we only had SMS, and it was charged per message. Meaning it cost money per message you sent. Information was more concise and efficient. Now, with unlimited text and free text over data, people are texting willy nilly since there's no cost to them.
If apple used the phrase "and iMessage users can publicly edit their messages" or something like that, it would have put things in a diff context from the start.
Or something like that.
Or something like that.
Yes...but what is the feature/benefit here?
Me: Ok let's meet at 5pm
Me: Ok let's meet at 15:00 (Edit)
As opposed to:
Me: Ok let's meet at 5pm
Me: *15:00 👍🏼
What am I missing? Do I need another coffee?
It goes both ways though, no? If the boss changed the message, simply screenshot it first and then you can edit your message as well to say yes to the raise.
And for unsend, you can also unsend your replies to the unsent message, no?
This is probably because some idiots expressed their concern that these "features could be used for nefarious purposes."
appleinsider.com
This sucks. So the vast majority of us who wouldn't engage in nefarious actions with these new features have to pay the price for the actions of the very small percentage of people who would do bad things.
WhatsApp offers disappearing messages, couldn't those be used for "nefarious" purposes? Why are those allowed?
Besides, if a person sends someone an evil text, all that the recipient has to do is screenshot it and they can keep that to show to the police! Duh!
Now with this edit history being sent along with the edited text, the feature just looks ridiculous. They might as well get rid of it completely.
BTW, I don't care how many people dislike my comment. So go ahead and press thumbs down until your fingers are sore.
Apple's iMessage edit and unsend features in iOS 16 sparking concerns about abuse | AppleInsider
Apple has stated that users will be able to edit and unsend texts to other iPhone users via Messages — but there's good reason to be cautious about the feature.
appleinsider.com
This sucks. So the vast majority of us who wouldn't engage in nefarious actions with these new features have to pay the price for the actions of the very small percentage of people who would do bad things.
WhatsApp offers disappearing messages, couldn't those be used for "nefarious" purposes? Why are those allowed?
Besides, if a person sends someone an evil text, all that the recipient has to do is screenshot it and they can keep that to show to the police! Duh!
Now with this edit history being sent along with the edited text, the feature just looks ridiculous. They might as well get rid of it completely.
BTW, I don't care how many people dislike my comment. So go ahead and press thumbs down until your fingers are sore.
People below iOS 16 still see edited messages. It's just unsending of messages that don't work there.
People below iOS 16 still see edited messages. It's just unsending of messages that don't work there.
You can't unsend an already read message.
It is NOT Apple's place to document stuff that people haven't managed to document themselves.
This is the DUMBEST change I have ever heard. This defeats the entire purpose and is a massive privacy violation.
I couldn't agree with you more!
The small percentage of people who think they might be abused can turn a "Receive Edit History with Edited iMessages" toggle on. The rest of us who don't need this can leave this toggle set to off and enjoy the benefit of true edited iMessages.
What is Apple doing?
As long as the message is unread, you should be able to edit it without history. And as long as a message is unread, you should be able to unsend it until it's read.
Is it because you could determine if someone had read your message without read receipts turned on?
This seems more complicated than it should be.
I hate you all.
I love you all.
I think you all are okay.
As long as the message is unread, you should be able to edit it without history. And as long as a message is unread, you should be able to unsend it until it's read.
Is it because you could determine if someone had read your message without read receipts turned on?
This seems more complicated than it should be.
I love you all.
I think you all are okay.
Wouldn’t that just push abusers to use other platforms, which they’ve probably been doing anyway since iMessage is 5-10 years behind the times with features?