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The screen is a fine size, but the installed OS uses the space terribly. Everything is full-size for a 'regular' 800x600 or 1024x768 screen, so the menus, dividers, status bars, etc, take up the vast majority of screen real estate. There's ridiculously little space left for my e-mail or the web page I'm reading. Colors are washed out, and the screen is hard to read, but it's tolerable.
indeed, its a small screen, and since you are keeping it, let me suggest you to install compact menu for firefox, and disable status bar(safari has no status bar, so I think you won't miss this), which will improve your firefox
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I open it up, hit the button and... wait. It's a full 20 seconds from button press to operational, and another 30 beyond that for the Wi-fi to connect to the network. By contrast, my Macbook is ready to work within 5-10 seconds from opening.
its true, it takes 15~20 sec for EEE to boot into ready screen.
but 5-10 sec for macbook? tell me your secret!
The fan is loud, and spends a fair amount of time on - Given the low clock speed of the proc, and the SSD storage, I just don't understand the need for a fan in general, and one that runs often and hard in particular.
Is that so? I never heard the fan? even when I use google earth! in comparison, whenever I open google earth, after 1 minute, My MB's fan begins to make noise like crazy.
 
Why not just steal a Macbook Air and pay $0? The ethical distinction is really, really slight.

haha, ethical distinction.......fanboy tax anyone? I bet SJ and apple never feel sorry for it.

PS. Im not encourage ppl to break any lousy apple rules, they might sue you for real....
 
Please don't anyone take this personally.

I saw one at MicroCenter all set up and tried it out - seems more like one of those V-Tec toys...

No thanks...

Oh well, maybe if Apple comes out with a revamped Newton or eMate with a larger touchscreen and Mac OS X Touch (like on the iPhone or iPod Touch), then that will be the one to get!

For $450 just get a cheap HP notebook and put Linux on it otherwise...
 
I got an Eee over Xmas, with the hopes that it would fill my 'ultra-mobile' slot - more than my iPhone, less than my MacBook.

I have to say, it's one of the more-disappointing products I've come across, and it was a powerful reminder of how accustomed (spoiled) I've become, using products that have been obsessed over, and every little thing taken care of.

The screen is a fine size, but the installed OS uses the space terribly. Everything is full-size for a 'regular' 800x600 or 1024x768 screen, so the menus, dividers, status bars, etc, take up the vast majority of screen real estate. There's ridiculously little space left for my e-mail or the web page I'm reading. Colors are washed out, and the screen is hard to read, but it's tolerable.

The track pad is fine, but the button is TERRIBLE. The keyboard is small, which is fine, but the layout is really hard to use - I'm always hitting the wrong thing, and I've always been one of the people who mocks other people who complain about keyboard layouts. I haven't quite figured out what's wrong, but the delete and return/enter keys are all wrong.

It's SLOW SLOW SLOW. I figured using *nix and SSD, the little thing would be plenty fast, even with a slow proc. Every review also discussed the wonders of 'instant booting' with the Eee. Both dead wrong. I open it up, hit the button and... wait. It's a full 20 seconds from button press to operational, and another 30 beyond that for the Wi-fi to connect to the network. By contrast, my Macbook is ready to work within 5-10 seconds from opening. Even my Dell Inspiron 600m laptop is ready to work faster than the Eee, if you count how long it takes to get the first web page up.

The fan is loud, and spends a fair amount of time on - Given the low clock speed of the proc, and the SSD storage, I just don't understand the need for a fan in general, and one that runs often and hard in particular.

Finally, while it's nice and light, the shape is very chunky, and it's actually thicker than my Macbook, when you include the protruding feet, so it takes up MORE thickness in my backpack. Total volume isn't bad, but I thought it would be considerably thinner.


At $400, I guess I'll keep it, but mostly for when I'm traveling places where I'm concerned about having a laptop stolen, and don't intend to use it often.

I'm totally sold on the lightweight laptop, but using the Eee for a few weeks has me convinced of the absolute brilliance of the MBA. The Eee is an attempt to appeal to what people 'think' they would like - a small, light, cheap, non-Windows laptop that boots quickly.

The MBA actually does those things in ways that are legitimately useful, at least for me. Though not so much with the cheapness.... :D

Oh, wait... sorry... durn paste buffer...

Helpful review. THANKS.
 
Please don't anyone take this personally.

For $450 just get a cheap HP notebook and put Linux on it otherwise...

of course not,:) like I said, if ultraportability is not an issue, Acer Aspire 3680 is a full featured laptop for $400. I owned one before, and Ubuntu runs perfectly on it, with all the bells and whistles such as compiz-fusion.
 
haha, ethical distinction.......fanboy tax anyone? I bet SJ and apple never feel sorry for it.

PS. Im not encourage ppl to break any lousy apple rules, they might sue you for real....



Keeping agreements we make means everything to some and nothing to others. I deal with both types every day. Good to know where you stand on keeping agreements you make!
 
$400 for a 2 lbs laptop is a good deal..IF YOU NEED IT.

I could see myself taking notes on it in college if i didn't already have a laptop..
From what I've read the keyboard ain't all that great so taking notes on it for hours a day doesn't sound like much fun.

I like the idea of the EEE, but there's too many rough edges to make me want to separate w/that much money for it. Also, I use Macs at work and at home so integrating it into my workflow would be more problematic than it's worth to me.


Lethal
 
From what I've read the keyboard ain't all that great so taking notes on it for hours a day doesn't sound like much fun.
Rumors has it next gen of EEE will have touch screen... so ppl can wait and see
Understood, no need to name call.

Keeping agreements we make means everything to some and nothing to others. I deal with both types every day. Good to know where you stand on keeping agreements you make!

lol, I m sure I was not calling you, rather than numerous who, willing or unwillingly, paid extra $$$ for some piece gadget we all know what it is.... and about every piece of overpriced product apple ever sold..

I sign the agreement to use OSX, but I didn't sign any agreement of not ripping apple's corporate behavior.
 
Why on earth are people trying to compare a £200 sub-notebook with a £1200 powerhouse? They are completely and utterly different ideas for different markets, it's like comparing a Segway with a Ferrari for your transportation needs.

For what it's aimed at - being a very cheap, very small email/web machine that can coincidentally run any Linux app (or with some hacking, Windows) I think it's excellent. Though I certainly wouldn't swap my Powerbook for it ;)
 
LOL you have to be kidding!

12" screen, better processor, bigger HDD, runs OS X (including iLife, Photoshop, WoW, SL), just a few things that come to mind. Not to mention that they still go for ~£400 on eBay if ever I did want rid of it.

Like I said you can't try to compare one to the other, but come on.... you certainly can't replace a Powerbook with an Eee!
 
LOL you have to be kidding!

12" screen, better processor, bigger HDD, runs OS X (including iLife, Photoshop, WoW, SL), just a few things that come to mind. Not to mention that they still go for ~£400 on eBay if ever I did want rid of it.

Like I said you can't try to compare one to the other, but come on.... you certainly can't replace a Powerbook with an Eee!

You can't argue with them. It's the same kind of logic that leads people to compare the MBA with the MB/P. "It's the same, minus a few features!!!11!!!" :D
 
Oh Boy, you guys should follow the topic a little bit more, CashGap was just being sarcastic.

Enough said. They are obviously targeting different users, the very fact that this comparison was brought up by different ppl, repeatedly, just shows what a failure apple's marketing of MBA is.
 
Oh Boy, you guys should follow the topic a little bit more, CashGap was just being sarcastic.

Enough said. They are obviously targeting different users, the very fact that this comparison was brought up by different ppl, repeatedly, just shows what a failure apple's marketing of MBA is.

Yeah but what Asus wouldn't give to be able to make marketing failures like Apples...

But props to you for peacemaking/'splainin the sarcasm!
 
It truly surprises me how spoiled and ignorant Apple consumers can be. The Eee PC and ultraportables such as the MBA, and even laptops such as low end PC laptops belong to different classes of products and are aimed at different consumers. Obviously, it would be unfair to do a cross-comparison between these products. Before I purchased the Macbook, I was seriously considering a 4G Eee PC instead, and almost sprung for it until Asus stupidly decided to delay the product multiple times.

And of course every product has its faults. The Macbook Air, for instance, is too thin. I think Apple screwed up with this product. The thinness compromises too many features such as additional ports, better speakers, thermal management, HD capacity, durability, and more. Apple should have realized that a 13.3" screen is too large for a standard ultraportable and should have gone with no bigger than a 12". The form factor (screen size) is a much larger contributing factor in portability than the weight or thickness, which makes the Eee PC an extremely mobile device. I'm vouching for the Eee PC to be the more influential product in today's market.
 
Enough said. They are obviously targeting different users, the very fact that this comparison was brought up by different ppl, repeatedly, just shows what a failure apple's marketing of MBA is.

I don't think it shows a marketing failure by Apple I think it just shows that the population at large is typically slow to change. They are used to doing things a certain way, in this case computing, and when something comes along that uses a very different approach they don't quite know how to react (or they react in a knee-jerk fashion).


Lethal
 
Yeah, turning the status bar on is always the first thing I do. I don't know how people can stand not knowing the address they're about to click on, different strokes for different folks I guess.
 
I think it just shows that the population at large is typically slow to change. They are used to doing things a certain way, in this case computing, and when something comes along that uses a very different approach they don't quite know how to react

I think its more reasonable to suggest the population at large are not financially strong enough to consider these type of products which compromise too much functionality for Thiness (I can't even say ultraportability here).

M$ surface tech was new thing, paper thin display was new thing, Wimax was new thing, EEE was new thing as well, they are all as much as innovative approaches as MBA, but they didn't generated bad reactions as much as MBA did (percentage wise).

Um, yes it does.
lol, I guess I should have clearly said "by default"? If thats a such unreasonable assumption that most mac users use their safari with no status bar.
Cloudane said:
I don't know how people can stand not knowing the address they're about to click on, different strokes for different folks I guess.
You would be amazed how many people accept default settings of safari w/o questioning.
 
You must be new here. Kidding, I understand your role from prior threads, I'll play along.

eee shortcomings:
Can't use Mac OS X - That's worth maybe $400
Can't use iLife - $100
Can't use iWork - $50
User experience difference between "Design by Ive" and "Design by Tupperware" - $500
Actual spec differences (processor, memory, screen, etc.) $1000
Resale value at end of year two, eee $50, MBA ~~$800, difference $750


Etc. etc. but you already knew all of that.

MBA $2,000

eee $400
=========
Difference $1,600
eee Handicaps $2,800 as detailed above.

eee "costs" $1,200 more than MBA.

Indeed, such a factual comparison only certain type of mac users can make. Im totally clueless about how to respond. congratulations for the great victory over me.

I've got a commercial in my head that goes something like this:
MBA $2000. eee $400. eee Handicaps $2,800. That response from Clevin.
Priceless.

There are some things money can't buy...

EDIT:
All this MB Air talk got me looking around at (ultra)portables/tablet pcs and I came across this HP one on Amazon. Has anyone seen or used one of those before? I'm really not in the market but that one seemed nice.
 
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