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i have both a MacBook Pro 2010 and a Mac Mini 2013 on which i install and try mac versions. The GW2 port didnt start all that bad, but as the Living Story ******** progressed (new Story Quests every 2 weeks, which completely drained their team from doing anything else besides creating more story, such as bug fixes), it became apparent that it wasnt a priority and it started to lag behind. FPS rate went down and down again after each patch, untill it became unplayable.
Just to compare it, on my MacBook Pro GW2 last year had around 15~20 fps with low settings on OS X, compared to 25~30 on mid settings under Windows Vista. And by the end of the year, it was under 5 fps on WvW maps, while it actually got a better fps rate on Windows.
The problem i see with Active Combat MMOs (you know, the ones in which you have to press the right skill at the right time) is that FPS means a lot. You need to have good fps rate to be able to avoid and time your attacks, and because of this i will always play it on a windows bootcamp instead of OS X. Together with a bad support over time for a OS X version, it usually makes me sad to have even tried to install it on OS X...
However, i am downloading the OS X client right now, and sure hope its better than what i am expecting. Only having one OS X developer isnt really something im looking forward to, since thats exactly what happened in GW2 and i saw what happened.
i have both a MacBook Pro 2010 and a Mac Mini 2013 on which i install and try mac versions. The GW2 port didnt start all that bad, but as the Living Story ******** progressed (new Story Quests every 2 weeks, which completely drained their team from doing anything else besides creating more story, such as bug fixes), it became apparent that it wasnt a priority and it started to lag behind. FPS rate went down and down again after each patch, untill it became unplayable.
Just to compare it, on my MacBook Pro GW2 last year had around 15~20 fps with low settings on OS X, compared to 25~30 on mid settings under Windows Vista. And by the end of the year, it was under 5 fps on WvW maps, while it actually got a better fps rate on Windows.
The problem i see with Active Combat MMOs (you know, the ones in which you have to press the right skill at the right time) is that FPS means a lot. You need to have good fps rate to be able to avoid and time your attacks, and because of this i will always play it on a windows bootcamp instead of OS X. Together with a bad support over time for a OS X version, it usually makes me sad to have even tried to install it on OS X...
However, i am downloading the OS X client right now, and sure hope its better than what i am expecting. Only having one OS X developer isnt really something im looking forward to, since thats exactly what happened in GW2 and i saw what happened.
I believe the cutting edge for a MMO is to move away from static worlds. Sure in solo game, the world is yours to change although I don't remember all that much in Skyrim that could be altered other than story/quest progression and the presence or absence of smited characters
, unlike Oblivion where I remember a town that was destroyed, permanently I don't really remember this happening in Skyrim at all. Trying to remember if the Mage's college in Skyrim was trashed (permenantly)? Hmmm.Now that I've been participating in the Landmark Alpha for a couple of weeks, I've really got my fingers crosses a 3rd party company, maybe even Mojang (Minecraft) will come up with a new and improved solo building game or game where servers can be created that includes advanced building tools and sexy curves.
ESO client for Mac seems to be very well-optimized. I was worrying that my iMac 2010 model is not going to make it, but it does. It's very smooth while keeping the details on a very decent level. Heck, if it runs that well on my machine, it will be great on newer macs.
The main different is that GW2 is not a OSX native client, it is a Wine Wrapper AFAIK, so the performances are a lot inferior to the WIN counterpart.
ESO client is native and it has performances that are on par (more or less) with the WIN version. The ESO mac developer(s) did a very good job.
Now that I've been participating in the Landmark Alpha for a couple of weeks, I've really got my fingers crosses a 3rd party company, maybe even Mojang (Minecraft) will come up with a new and improved solo building game or game where servers can be created that includes advanced building tools and sexy curves.
Look up Camelot Unchained - From the original team behind Dark Age of Camelot, they're making fantasy medieval EVE essentially. Where everything is player controlled, and made. All about warfare, and taking over, pillaging and the like.
There's also Neo'sLand, which uses the exact same Voxel system at EQ Next, while being an Indie MMO.
There's a few, the issue is once Sony caught on, they used the massive budgets they have to steam roll these folks in news. They even bought the Voxel based system from the creators. Fortunately Neo's license was not affected.
For Mac games this is always good news. Going cheap hurts the experience.
Interesting, I'll look at these, thanks, however I'm not really interested in a building world if PVP will allow you to see it destroyed if that is the case with Camelot Unchained. I might have looked at that already, if it's the one where graphics are not as good. Landmark is absolutely beautiful. There was one game where the recipes were really extensive.
Agreed. I just tried ESO on the 2010 Macbook Pro and it seems its better optimised than WoW!
Camelot is still very much in development, they're creating their own graphics engine entirely from scratch.
They've even been live streaming their coding, and artwork as it progresses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3LqXvmffiU
Does anyone know if there's controller support? I've been away from home and playing the beta on my MBP, but back home I have a 360 controller connected to my iMac.
The single only reason I am hesitant about buying this game is the monthly subscription fee. £60 for the game and then a further £9 a month to play it.
Some how, I don't think I can justify this when there is a whole plethora of other awesome online free to play MMOs and adventure titles.
I played the beta a few weekends ago and had an awesome time but I'm not convinced its worth £108 per annum.
Some how, I don't think I can justify this when there is a whole plethora of other awesome online free to play MMOs and adventure titles.
I played the beta a few weekends ago and had an awesome time but I'm not convinced its worth £108 per annum.
I had shadows on low but it seemed to be a memory leak or some other client issue.
I played with shadows on... i experienced 3 crashes over the 3 days.
I did notice when i had water reflections on, that at certain angles with water around my frame rate would drop to a slide show... with reflections off, it never happened.
Overall it runs really good, though it bakes my rMBP. I ended up running mostly set to medium, just to not push the machine too hard, and never saw drops in performance even with tons of action of people around.
I did notice when i had water reflections on, that at certain angles with water around my frame rate would drop to a slide show... with reflections off, it never happened.
Overall it runs really good, though it bakes my rMBP. I ended up running mostly set to medium, just to not push the machine too hard, and never saw drops in performance even with tons of action of people around.
I posted a thread over on the Bethsoft ESO forums which has most of the Mac related information in one place which may be of use. It will get updated and moved to the official ESO forums when they come online;
ESO Mac Beta Client Unofficial FAQ
Also I posted my initial Mac beta ESO client graphics testing with PC client comparisons on a separate thread here with some graphs which gave me some interesting results;
ESO Beta - Initial Mac & PC Graphics Benchmarking
I have been following the development of the Mac ESO client for a while now and am really looking forward to further testing and launch.
ESO Mac Beta Client Unofficial FAQ
Also I posted my initial Mac beta ESO client graphics testing with PC client comparisons on a separate thread here with some graphs which gave me some interesting results;
ESO Beta - Initial Mac & PC Graphics Benchmarking
I have been following the development of the Mac ESO client for a while now and am really looking forward to further testing and launch.
Go for itUnexpectedly received a Beta key so about to try this on my Mac Mini. I think I'm in for a world of pain, but what the hell- might as well see
Use Lowest settings and then work you way up. Generally outside of PvP most people comment that the performance is surprisingly good for older computers. Consider lowering resolution.
Also, if you have 4GB of RAM which is minimum, then quit the Launcher when game is launched to save some memory. Also reboot and close other apps in background before playing.
Unexpectedly received a Beta key so about to try this on my Mac Mini. I think I'm in for a world of pain, but what the hell- might as well see
if its got an HD4000 or better, it should be playable
Is anyone planning to play this weekend? I got the invite for beta; it begins at noon until Sunday.