The Vapor PRO does not have this issue. I had the Vapor and switched to the pro for this reason.
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The Vapor PRO does not have this issue. I had the Vapor and switched to the pro for this reason.
This strikes me as a completely unfounded statement. Could you expand? Only 3 or 4 people have reported on use of this case on these forums, and state it loses about 1 bar, comparable to favorable relative to other all aluminum cases. I don't see where you are coming from...
Here's one of our forum member's review on this case - you decide for yourself. But I see way more happy Vapor Pro users (myself included) than the Draco - plus, the Pro looks sleeker and better anyhow (though this is a personal opinion)
RECEPTION AND GPS
The most important part of a aluminum case review!!!! does it effect the reception? Well unfortunately I hate to report that yes it does. Here are the test results.
I am in a very low reception area and I have a micro cell, the reading were slightly different then being on a normal cell tower.
MICRO CELL RESULTS
without the case on I would get 67 to 70 decibels which is high 4 to 5 bars
with the case installed I would get 82 to 86 decibels which would put it into 3 to 4 bars
NORMAL CELL TOWER RESULTS
without case it would get 82 to 83 decibel reading
with the case installed it would get 94 to 96 decibels
Overall you would take anywhere from a minimum of a 12db to 16db loss. for someone like me where i only get a 1 to 2 bars or edge the case puts my phone into searching. With the micro cell it was only moving the reception 1 bar down from 5 to 4 and occasionally 3 bars.
The GPS on my phone was useless with the case installed, it took a while to pinpoint me and when it did it would be way off. While driving it did not move with me, the closest i could get it to me was within two blocks.
When I first saw the design of the case I was hoping that the system used to separate the antenna and the case would work but its just four pads in the corner or the case. The case has a great design and looks awesome in my opinion. I you live in a high reception area and don't use your GPS ever than this case could be a option for you. You can pick these up on amazon for $99 bucks
check out the link below for a tons of pictures, i went a little crazy with this one,
Weisjt Tech House: Draco IV Aluminum Bumper for iPhone 4
Again, 12-16 db loss is right in line with other all aluminum cases, hardly the "king of signal issues." There are some Pro users in this same thread that report signal and GPS issues too.
I personally agree with you that the Pro is a superior case, but let's stay accurate is all i'm saying.
I personally agree with you that the Pro is a superior case, but let's stay accurate is all i'm saying.
Just placed and order blood red and black love the color I just sell the black ops not liked to much
Unless he has the first Pro with a Verizon phone is the only way things shouldn't or may not be working right.The rest of the Pro's including the Blackops were made to use with either carrier.
And Ive already reported that the Vapor Pro is just as bad as the Vapor4 when it comes to signal loss. I think I made a post to this effect on a different thread.....
-99dB or worse with Vapor Pro (Vapor4 had similar readings)
-82dB with naked iPhone
To me the Element Vapor has not yet been dethroned as the king of Signal issues. The king is alive and well.
Looks like its a hit or miss when it comes to signal issues.
[AT&T iphone]
We didnt test the GPS, we just sent it back, my buddy was really pissed after all the promises Element made about improving signal reception. All BS.
I showed that with the Pro or naked my db's never changed. My GPS worked just fine and had no negative effects with this case. I have never seen anyone on here say it made their phone unusable. If you look at Greenburg and some of the other respectable reviewers they are all saying the same thing, its the best case they have ever used and had no signal lose with it. So out of all the people on here that have used a Pro, 1 reported GPS issues and 1 or 2 reported signal issues so maybe 3 people out of how ever many. Then if you go on Youtube and look for reviews you can not even find a negative review about the case. Hell, there are even people on here saying the have signal loss or GPS issues with the Atomic Hybrid so I think with every single case on the market you will get someone who says something negative about it. I can honestly say that this is the best performing, best feeling case(aluminum or hybrid) that I have ever used. I have tried every single aluminum case on the market and none of them performed as well as the Pro did. So take it for what its worth. Try the case, if you don't like it then send it back. Their customer service is 1000 times better than it used to be and they except returns within 30 days. So really you have nothing to lose.
Give me a break here. Every review I've read said the vapor pro has little or no effect on reception. Some went so far as to say, with db numbers shown,
that it seemed to improve the signal over no case. One review said it impacted the signal less than the plastic Iphone bumper. I had the Vapor Pro First Addition on my own AT&T phone the signal was as good as the bare phone.
You're making it sound like the biggest disaster case ever created. Do you work for another case Manufacturer?
I kind of agree. I compared mine to the Atomic Hybrid and the numbers were identical. I am not calling him a liar but something just seems off. I tried mine on both at&t and Verizon phones since I have both. And I am brutally honest when it comes to cases and I couldn't find anything to complain about with the Pro, Nothing!! Yea its expensive, but you get what you pay for! I ordered two of them, so that should tell you something.
Agreed. I'm glad you brought up the Larry Greenberg review. He originally reviewed the Vapor 4 and was very honest in stating that it severely effected the signal. I vaguely remember statements like, 90% signal degradation. He was very positive about the Vapor Pro http://www.facebook.com/elementcase/posts/140914779308674. He said there was an increase in reception.
I may have been a little over the top in praise for this case, but I feel that Element Case did a good job with this design.
Well, now there are at least two or three guys reporting signal degradation with Vapor Pro in this thread. Just because it worked for you, doesnt mean it works for everyone. Stop being so narrow minded.
I dont work for any case manufacturer, actually I write a blog with reviews on iPhone 4 cases. In all my reviews/posts about the Vapor 4, Ive always said its one of my favorite cases despite the signal degradation issues (because I live in an area with strong reception). Ive warned folks that in weak reception areas, the case will be hard to live with. But since you brought it up, you sure sound like you work for Element case. I just tell it like I see it. Ive seen signal degradation with Vapor4 and Vapor Pro and from what Ive seen all the promises Element made about solving signal reception issues are empty promises at least for some folks.
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@scelzifan, I read your review about how the Vapor Pro worked perfectly for you. And you read about the issues my friend had with his Vapor Pro. I did not say you were lying, just that its possible that different areas, and different iPhones can have a different amount of signal reception degradation with the Vapor Pro.
Its like the cat that closes its eyes to the world and assumes no one else can see it, lol.
And while we are talking about Element's customer service, its crap. It took a whole week to go through the process of returning the case. A lot of back and forth, before my friend got to return the case. He did have to threaten to do a chargeback, before they acquiesced. Thats crap customer service in my book.
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I only seen 1. And one with GPS, same as every other case on this forum. Your the one who is being narrow minded. Your the only person who has said it "killed" your signal. And glen, but he's been with Atomic for a long time now. Look at all the positive reviews and wait until this week or next when more people get the case in their hands. I have a feeling you will be in the minority.I don't work for anyone and I actually provided photo's to back up all my claims and photo's don't lie!
I didnt call you narrow minded that was for the other poster who assumed I worked for another manufacturer just because I brought up signal degradation with the Vapor Pro. Re-read my post, my reply to you starts below "@scelzifan", take it easy dont get so worked up, lol.
I put in a dotted line to make it clearer......
And refer to this post :
rapaleeman said:
That means at least three guys/gals have had problems. Its only two if you are calling me a liar, lol. Thats cool too, enjoy.
It's cool, I am not calling anyone anything. So 3 people out of how many? People said that same thing with Atomic Hybrid which is virtually impossible is all I am saying. I sent my case back, they responded immediately and then asked me if I wanted credit or my money and I had already purchased a new pro so I said my money and they told me it took 3 days to process the claim and the money would go back. I think they have improved dramatically from what they once were. But if the case did not work for you then that sucks. There are a ton of others out there. I am just saying this case is better for me in a area where its been pretty well documented that I have terrible service, so bad that at&t will not sell service in my area and I don't lose anything when using their case with at&t or my Verizon phone. So I don't know..
I love my Vapor 4, mate, got the satin nickel, it tarnished, but I still love it beacuse of its individuality. The new design is nice but at 150 bucks, I wanted to wait. My friend got one, so I checked it out. It isnt for me because of the issues I mentioned.
So I got another Vapor 4, lol, the AR15-V (from ebay).
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So your having troubles with your Vapor Pro but not the Ar-15? Now that is weird!! I don't even know how that is possible. But whatever works for you. The ar was my favorite before they came out with the pro's. But what ever you like and works for you is all the matters.
I love my Vapor 4 mate, got the satin nickel, it tarnished, but I still love it beacuse of its individuality. The new design is nice but at 150 bucks, I wanted to wait. My friend got one, so I checked it out. It isnt for me because of the issues I mentioned.
So I got another Vapor 4, lol, the AR15-V (from ebay).
Lol, read my earlier posts. They BOTH have the same signal degradation issues. But I live in a strong reception area and I like the looks of the Vapor 4, so I can live with less bars and signal degradation. Im certainly not paying 150$ for a case with signal issues though.
I paid less than 75$ includuing shipping for the AR-15V, and even less for the Satin Nickel since it was lightly used.
Once again, lets get it straight:
Vapor 4 -99dB
Vapor Pro -99dB and worse
Naked iPhone -82dB
Element's Customer Service is crap. (Thats why i bought my cases on ebay. Plus I got a nice discount
)Satin Nickel tarnishes badly, but I love the individuality the tarnishing offers.
Moral of the story : If you live in an area with weak reception Vapor 4 and vapor Pro are NOT recommended.
Total biased and BS opinion. I just told you I live in an area where at&t will not even sell me service!!! I get maybe 1 or 2 bars max and I have never seen 3G, always edge and I put the blackops on and seen 0 signal degradation!!I did not even drop 1 db!! I even took pictures to show everyone. GPS worked just like it did before or naked. I also have a Verizon iphone, 2 of them actually and again get pretty bad service most of the time. I put the blackops on my Verizon phone and got the exact same signal as my wives phone with the Atomic Hybrid or a naked iphone. So what you are saying is not true. I live in a very very weak area for both carriers and the case worked absolutely fine for me with both at&t and Verizon so you can't go tell people that if they live in a low signal area that the Pro will not work for them!! That's is your opinion and your experience only. I can guarantee you I live in an area with worse reception than you and I had no problems what so ever.
Lol, read my earlier posts. They BOTH have the same signal degradation issues. But I live in a strong reception area and I like the looks of the Vapor 4, so I can live with less bars and signal degradation. Im certainly not paying 150$ for a case with signal issues though.
I paid less than 75$ includuing shipping for the AR-15V, and even less for the Satin Nickel since it was lightly used.
Once again, lets get it straight:
Vapor 4 -99dB
Vapor Pro -99dB and worse
Naked iPhone -82dB
Element's Customer Service is crap. (Thats why i bought my cases on ebay. Plus I got a nice discount
Satin Nickel tarnishes badly, but I love the individuality the tarnishing offers.
Moral of the story : If you live in an area with weak reception Vapor 4 and vapor Pro are NOT recommended.
lol, sure Im biased, my bias is pro-Vapor4, lmao. I still dont recommend Vapor4 or Vapor Pro for weak reception areas.
I have to say now (after the post you just made) that you are just as narrow minded as the other poster. Other people cannot have an opinion or an experience different from yours, if they do they must be lying or working for a competing manufacturer. Thats what i mean by being narrow-minded.
take it easy mate, its just the Internet.....lets take the insult-exchange to PMs, lol, cheers.
Well that is fine, you can recommend what you want but don't say it won't work because it does. With the regular vapor I had problems, with the pro I have non. Bottom line, I showed pics to back up my story, you have shown absolutely nothing but your opinion!!
You are the great one who spent the 150$ to get the case, I didnt. I just posted views after seeing the case in action. I wish I had taken some pics but its a little late now, since the case is safely back at Element's headquarters.
We bow to thee O great one, we lie, you are the only person who speaks the truth.
Thanks for an entertaining afternoon, lmfao.