A lot of people would disagree with you. Even though Rolex may use real platinum and gold, the cost of the material doesn't not equate to the the thousands of dollars in difference. And their watches are not hand made. Rolex has one of the most modern automated manufacturing facility in the world. And the reason why resell is higher years later is because they keep raising the prices. My platinum Yacht-Master has gone up thousands of dollars since I bought it even though nothing has changed about the watch. Material cost may have gone up, the US dollar may have gone down and so forth, but all of that still doesn't equate to the price increases. They increased their prices because they can.
I said their high-end watches are hand-made and this is true. If you even do light research on this you will find it's true. I also addressed that the price premium isn't all about the parts. Rolex has decades and decades of proven durability and resell value behind them along with great customer service. This commands a premium. I'm not suggesting that they are the best watches. There are plenty of comparable quality watches. Heck, a good Swiss-made watch will last as long. My point is, Rolex isn't some brand like LV where it is purely about brand name. Brand name plays a big role in Rolex, but it's also the quality and resell value of them as well.
Do you really even know what my stance or principle is? From your response, you don't because you're grasping at air and drawing your own conclusions. I commented on how owning a real product does not necessary make you an employee of them and you're claiming I was making a comparison between Rolex and Element Case. I made no direct comparisons to anything in my post.
You did make an analogy comparing the two practices. Why did you even bring up the LV or Rolex subject then? Just to chat about? No, you were describing your purchasing ethics. PRINCIPLES. I was pointing out that the analogy you used is very, very different from that of a person who is purchasing a fake Element case. I also never called you an employee of Element.
So let me present my stance. I do not support fakes and will continue to denounce them. A business puts in the energy, time and money to come up with a product. They spend money on R&D, marketing and creating a brand that they are associating to. A fake lives off of the legitimate business efforts without putting in the same level of investment. You made the comment in another thread stating, "I frown on anyone who flips these cases as being genuine." But you don't frown upon the companies who are making fake cases with fake certificates of authenticity in their attempt to pass as being genuine? To me, that sounds hypocritical.
They aren't passing it as genuine. Ask any one of those sellers and they will tell you it's fake. They are going to great lengths to copy every aspect of the case so I won't argue that.
But this is a gun ownership type argument you are making. Do you blame the gun or the person that shoots it? I blame the person that shoots it. I will frown on eBay sellers trying to pass a fake case off as a real thing. I won't frown on someone who is knowingly purchasing a knock-off. That is petty and arrogant. Are you really judging someone's personal life based on a $20 purchase of a knock-off iPhone case? That is very petty don't you think?
Again, I say use your critical eyes on these companies you support as well. So far, Anvil and DougNG have failed to stand up to the scrutiny of justifying costs associated with Element Vapor Pros.
And I will debate this as long as you guys keep posting condescending remarks towards the people purchasing these knock-offs. You were downright antagonistic in the Fake Vapor Pro thread Vudoo. You actively went into that thread to start a fire.
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I'll post photos of my cases when I get them and make my own decision if they are worth the money or not.
Don't lie Vudoo. You went into the Fake Vapor Pro specific thread and made some antagonistic posts. You were arrogant and condescending there. You are not innocent.
Some might be calling Element customers shill, but I am not. If you have the money to spend, spend it. I'm not going to judge you. It's your money and I would assume you are a tax payer like myself.
Just because you choose to spend your money differently than myself, is no reason for me to attack your personal views.
However, mine was very openly attacked to the point where my review on one of the knock-off cases was locked and shut down. All the while, review threads about knock-off e13ctrons and Swords, and Cleaves remain without any opposition.
It seems Element customers have more to fight about. Understandable as you guys made a pretty big investment. But seriously, do you need to be so antagonistic towards other human beings for spending their hard-earned money the way that they want?
Don't buy knock-offs if you don't like it. Stay away from the knock-off threads. But don't expect people like me to remain silent when you are borderline attacking me personally.
