You do not need car play in a Tesla. CarPlay is only for car makers who do not do their own software or have crap software. Tesla do their own and it is years ahead of any competitor.
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Elon Musk: Apple's App Store Fees Are a 'De Facto Global Tax on the Internet'
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Crypto currency is not a scam. if I were you I would be WAAAAYYYY more concerned by actual real money as that is sued far more agressively by criminals and for money laundering than crypto currency ever could be.
I suggest you do a quick 5 minute Google search on it and see how many baks got caught in the adopts few years for money laundering REAL money!
I agree with Apple's side in this dispute but I disagree with the notion that Apple is perfect and never makes a mistake.
Elon Musk is living proof that you don't need common sense to be wealthy.
Donald Trump is proof you don't need brains either.
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Donald Trump is proof you don't need brains either.
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Are conspiracy theorists frequently rich? Is that a genuine demographic market?
It is, it's a tax on using the system they enabled. It's staggering that Musk doesn't realize the difference between accessing any webpage in safari and opening up an app. Pot calling the kettle black.
Tesla software is terrible. My car half the time loses its Sirius authorization. A few days back I had to reboot twice to get my car to realize it had a radio installed. I’ve brought the car in many times for service because of software-related issues. And CarPlay would allow me to choose my own audio sources from the car’s interface, which is far safer than having to fumble with my phone to change stations or the like.
Let’s see running up the price of Dogecoin and making misleading statements about Tesla which got him in trouble with the feds. Apple should not have to allow untrusted garbage companies to soil their reputation with shotty repairs by forced authorization. Aging batteries are volatile enough to have explosions in the Apple stores where their staff if trained. 3rd party payments should never be allowed in their store. That is the dumbest idea ever. It’s their store. Why support it if you won’t profit from it. Everybody wants something for nothing. It is not sustainable as a business model and the companies that start that why always change if they survive. Apple could kill the 3rd party store all together and just do first party apps. If required to do 3rd party payment in their store they just shut it down and make all outside apps going forward webapps just like the original iPhone. That will kill 10s of thousands of developers in one move, but it would have been caused by those that think they should give them access for free.
Guy who doesn't pay taxes trying to figure out what "tax" means, just throwing poo at a dart board hoping to get it right.
The App Store is no more a global tax on the Internet than Tesla is a global tax on electric cars.
What scam is he up to?
What scam is he up to?
It's not a walled garden just because there are rules to get in. You just have to comply with those rules and you're in.
Maybe it's because I've been in tech for decades, but me, I'd rather have some actual governance around apps ensuring that they're not filled with malware.
There's many reasons that we're all running Apple s**t, but for those of us that have delved into security, privacy, etc, there really is only one platform that's safe anymore.
As an aside - what phone is Musk running?
There's many reasons that we're all running Apple s**t, but for those of us that have delved into security, privacy, etc, there really is only one platform that's safe anymore.
As an aside - what phone is Musk running?
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imagine being a billionaire and only being able to complain without effecting change.
I absolutely agree with you 100% but at some point this crap of other corporations publicly trashing Apple needs to stop because at the end of the day Intel, Microsoft, Tesla and Epic won't lose business being the bad guy so I don't think it's fair to expect Apple to take the high road when nobody else will. It's kind of like someone tying your hands behind your back with knotted rope and continually slapping you in the face until it bleeds and expecting you to maintain a smile.
There’s one thing that I know at least myself and many others don’t do regarding criticism of others:
- Going to Samsung’s, LGs, HTCs et al android MR-like communities and throw rocks at their products that we don’t even use or know fully.
- Going to Google Play store forums developers while being an iOS developer (or not even a developer at all) and trash their developer rules and ways (or Nintendo’s or Microsoft’s or Sony’s for that matter)
- Going to Tesla’s forums and complain because they have a walled garden where only Tesla is the only one allowed to service, repair, tinker, etc a Tesla car. Sometimes while not even being a Tesla owner at all.
- Going to any of the aforementioned brands spaces and call their clients diehard, crybabies, whiners (and sometimes worse) “fan$”.
But that it is a walled garden? Heck, that’s not a criticism, I’m here BECAUSE of it.
And let me repeat in case it didn’t go through on the bullet points, Tesla is also a walled garden. So that’s at least a hypocritical remark
Now, I wish people would stop this “us vs them” mentality. It’s a freaking product, handled by people that have more money than time would allow them to do with… they don’t need being defended or chastised, let alone their users.
And to anybody reading this: go buy whatever the heck you want, I can promise you that the vast VAST majority of the people here won’t care, won’t realize, won’t even notice that you bought something else or that you think yours is better (which by all means it probably is depending use cases). I can promise you that you can enjoy TeslaRumors, AndroidRumors, MicrosoftRumors spaces without a random MR person telling you that “you can’t take criticism and that you are an $ndroidFan”. Don’t like the M1s or iPhones? Cool, go get that fancy new Dell… I heard it has great reviews. And the latest androids have double the cores and double the RAM than iPhones. They are good too, they truly are. Jesus.
Well yeah, maybe Aspergers. But since we are all armchair psychiatrists here, I diagnose megalomania.
Elon Musk is a clown. This is the guy who used taxpayer money to keep his business afloat. Just last year, SEC filings show his companies dipped into the $600 billion stimulus package that was to provide help to businesses hit by the pandemic. While at the same time stating Americans do not need another stimulus package. Gets hundred of millions in energy tax credits. Looks like Tesla has not accomplish much on their own without government help.
What were people using before Apple created the first iPhone? I will tell you, a flip phone with next to nothing when it comes to apps, let alone a readable screen. Apple provides a platform for entrepreneurial developers to make money by creating apps. How many millionaires have been born from the app store? Plenty! Apple collects from their platform because they provide the best app ecosystem. Developers submit an app to the app store and 720 million people can download it because of Apple. They get free marketing by the app stores reviews. So, what is Musk bitching about?
What were people using before Apple created the first iPhone? I will tell you, a flip phone with next to nothing when it comes to apps, let alone a readable screen. Apple provides a platform for entrepreneurial developers to make money by creating apps. How many millionaires have been born from the app store? Plenty! Apple collects from their platform because they provide the best app ecosystem. Developers submit an app to the app store and 720 million people can download it because of Apple. They get free marketing by the app stores reviews. So, what is Musk bitching about?
If you make your app free, is it a tax? If you distribute your app using the app store why shouldnt apple get a fee? And why is the guy with a closed platform complaining about someone elses closed platform? If you do t like the app store rules, you dont build for the app store. Thats how the free markets are supposed to work.
So if an app is free to download then it’s a tax free app? Get back in your dungeon.
The difference between Apple and Tesla being that Apple doesn’t encourage you to buy autonomous driving software which doesn’t work yet on the promise that it’ll be here very very soon. Elon has been peddling that nonsense for about 3 years solid and I know because I have a model 3.
Epic wanted all the benefits of the App Store and the delivery platform but didn’t want to pay for it. A bit like me pitching up to sports event with my food van and then complaining that I have to pay a fee to be parked within the stadium grounds with access to lots of supporters.
it eat have cake your and (not in that order)
Epic wanted all the benefits of the App Store and the delivery platform but didn’t want to pay for it. A bit like me pitching up to sports event with my food van and then complaining that I have to pay a fee to be parked within the stadium grounds with access to lots of supporters.
it eat have cake your and (not in that order)
Small businesses can become certified to repair iPhones. But that's the difference. They must use the parts and procedures approved by Apple in order for the device to remain under warranty.
Here's the thing... Consumer takes iPhone to some back-alley repair shop. Repair job barely holds on for a month. Consumer calls Apple for supportt. You can see where this is going...
Disagree.
For me, it's not just a walled-garden scenario. It's a seamless experience over time. I've had many Macs and iPhones over a 20 year period. During this time, my main email account and all of my contacts have seamlessly transferred from one Mac to the next to the next to the next. My mail always available. My Keychain is "just there" with all of my passwords.
I tried to achieve this with other providers, and with Windows, but they come with the true tax. .... Hours and hours of frustration and quite often a monthly service fee to keep your data. Not so with Apple. It's been the most transparent experience that I've ever had.
Exactly that. I value my time which is why I went full apple. And it pays off.
Two friends of mine have musk products and their tax is basically having to get the damn things upgraded and fixed every 5 minutes at great cost while limping from charger to charger. They are chock full of weird bugs. They tell me that they’re saving money with this but they have £80k cars and £5k a year bills on top. They’re delusional. I’ll stick with my CarPlay equipped Citroen thanks which just works and runs on ant farts.
Perhaps Musk wants people to have the Android experience because it’ll stop people comparing the objective quality of their iPhone with their car And thinking badly of the car….
edit: one really annoying thing is that “I drive a Tesla for the environment”. If you really gave a **** you’d ride a bicycle or drive a Leaf. You just want to show off.
Two friends of mine have musk products and their tax is basically having to get the damn things upgraded and fixed every 5 minutes at great cost while limping from charger to charger. They are chock full of weird bugs. They tell me that they’re saving money with this but they have £80k cars and £5k a year bills on top. They’re delusional. I’ll stick with my CarPlay equipped Citroen thanks which just works and runs on ant farts.
Perhaps Musk wants people to have the Android experience because it’ll stop people comparing the objective quality of their iPhone with their car And thinking badly of the car….
edit: one really annoying thing is that “I drive a Tesla for the environment”. If you really gave a **** you’d ride a bicycle or drive a Leaf. You just want to show off.
