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Elon Musk: If You Don't Make It at Tesla, You Go Work at Apple
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Sounds like they should fire their HR People, then they can get nice jobs at Apple.
Doesn't have to, but should know better than to not. How Jobs behaved is irrelevant to this.
I lost a bit of respect for Tesla. Pretty ship, ugly captain.
Why do you say that? What exactly is Tesla doing that Apple couldn't? Clearly Musk doesn't agree otherwise he wouldn't even give Apple the time of day. Unless he's like Donald Trump and just wants the publicity.
So, it's safe to assume that we won't be seeing CarPlay compatibility on a Tesla anytime soon lol.
Seriously though, I rented a Model S for a day and it was life changing. It makes driving a gas powered car feel like riding a donkey. Alas, I am in no position to spend $80k on a car. Fingers crossed that the Model 3 is ready by late '18 when my current lease is up!
Seriously though, I rented a Model S for a day and it was life changing. It makes driving a gas powered car feel like riding a donkey. Alas, I am in no position to spend $80k on a car. Fingers crossed that the Model 3 is ready by late '18 when my current lease is up!
Wasn't Steve Jobs also called an ****? Do you believe them 100% too? There is a difference between being determined to do something people said can't be done and truly being an ****.
And have you ever personally driven a Tesla? I was skeptical at first...until I drove one. If you're going to give the benefit of the doubt before they have even confirmed they are doing a car, I think Tesla should get the same courtesy. It is a phenomenal car, phenomenal company, and they have a great CEO. I respect them/him as much as I do
I am not so sure. I think Musk will pull through.
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I've been an Apple user since the early 90's. I consider Steve Jobs to be a hero of mine. It's funny that people think that Elon is scared of Apple. They are different. Elon's comments are similar to comments that Steve often made about other companies. They aren't a desperate attempt to tear down a superior competitor. He's just stating facts. Steve did it all the time. Elon's doing it now.
I'm just going to leave this link here now:
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html
I'm just going to leave this link here now:
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html
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Didn't Blackberry and/or Nokia say something similar about Apple joining the phone market?
Well, I just lost all respect for Musk. Btw, one reason their new Tesla X car was delayed for years was because they lost so many engineers to Apple(google it).
Hopefully when Apple starts making cars, they'll have less bugs then the last two mobile OS's that they've released. What is going on over at Apple? Both iOS 8 and 9 have been awful compared to prior releases. It really sucks to have apple releasing so much junk lately. Seriously though, Tesla makes amazing cars, amazing. Apple has a long way to go to get to where they are.
Any other CEO I would agree with you. But Musk's experience with SpaceX probably inspired his comment. Making and designing rockets from raw materials and manufacturing them in the US with his own dime is much different than designing and assembling lcd panels and chips.
He successfully developed rockets at the tenth of the cost — again manufactured in the US, (did you know the Atlas V rocket used by NASA is Russian? And we have trade sanctions on them, how will we resupply ISS?) again, against all odds. SpaceX is the first private company to resupply the ISS. This is NOT something Samsung can just copy.
Why do people want to work for these companies over Apple?
Musk is selling what the 2015 SHOULD have been before people got pessimistic. Apple is selling a fashionable wristwatch, even with hordes of cash. This is why people want to work for Musk, they believe in this future, not Tim Cook's. Similar to what Job's sold.
Certainly investors will probably favor Apple's model of making insane profits, but at the end of the day I want to work for a company that is bringing meaningful change to the world.
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I agree that he is doing something right and I think Tesla is the disruptor of the auto industry. The car receives over the air updates just like a phone, has a 17" display computer in the car, and from ambitions that they currently have will do a variety of impressive features I have yet to hear from another car company. If Tesla was the size of and had their resources, I think you would be under a highly different impression.
I think you better recheck your supposed list of 'innovations'
I agree that he is doing something right and I think Tesla is the disruptor of the auto industry. The car receives over the air updates just like a phone, has a 17" display computer in the car, and from ambitions that they currently have will do a variety of impressive features I have yet to hear from another car company. If Tesla was the size of and had their resources, I think you would be under a highly different impression.
I think you better recheck your supposed list of 'innovations'
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whats tesla really done thats really so great? as a die hard auto enthusiast, the cars are ass-ugly, and the enormous touch screen is gimmicky and a hindrance to use while driving. all theyve done is create the first electric car that most people (myself excepted) dont think looks like total ******* and gets decent range. they do catch on fire occasionally though?
they have some nice battery technology, but its just another electric car with poor styling that screams upcoming facelift built right in that wont age well at all.
id hate to see apple make a car, but apple turns a profit while tesla doesnt and never has and wont for the forseeable future. as someone else said, you cant hemhorrage VC cash forever, eventually you have to turn a real profit, and writing endless checks to make the biggest factory on the planet when you have virtually no market share isnt how you get rich. you dont get rich by writin' checks after a certain point.
they have some nice battery technology, but its just another electric car with poor styling that screams upcoming facelift built right in that wont age well at all.
id hate to see apple make a car, but apple turns a profit while tesla doesnt and never has and wont for the forseeable future. as someone else said, you cant hemhorrage VC cash forever, eventually you have to turn a real profit, and writing endless checks to make the biggest factory on the planet when you have virtually no market share isnt how you get rich. you dont get rich by writin' checks after a certain point.
No it's not. But setting up dealer show rooms, a dealer network, technicians to learn the vehicles, facilities to build said cars, r&d of vehicles... Is.
Musk will undoubtedly eat his words just like Ballmer and Ed Colligan when the iCar is released and millions with spare money and nowhere to travel will make lines in front of the Apple store to buy a two wheeled first gen that can only turn right. Then onwards every version will add a wheel and more turning points, thereby driving upgrades and making Tesla feel even worse 
Musk will undoubtedly eat his words just like Ballmer and Ed Colligan when the iCar is released and millions with spare money and nowhere to travel will make lines in front of the Apple store to buy a two wheeled first gen that can only turn right. Then onwards every version will add a wheel and more turning points, thereby driving upgrades and making Tesla feel even worse
As much as I love Apple the ride won't last forever as no company is on top forever and the arrogance in this thread means it's really gonna hurt when Apple doesn't dominate.
...and Tesla only hired the worst Apple engineers. Two can play this game.