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Oh man, this should be interesting to see.

I'm guessing he'll end up making one side of the political spectrum upset, or both, because both sides have expectations about how Twitter should be operating and who should/shouldn't be banned for what is posted to the platform, what the boundaries are (or aren't), etc.

I only use Twitter casually, so I think they get a lot right and a lot wrong, so it will be interesting to see what users think of any changes he may or may not make.

I don't expect all that many sweeping changes, but time will tell. I definitely think they need to curb misinformation on the platform - which they've already tried doing - but Americans especially are so split over what facts and information are these days, "misinformation" means different things to different people. So I'm not sure how they'll navigate those waters, or if they'll try to at all.
 
If Twitter is the town square

It isn't
It's a private company

And you don't want them in the business of deciding who is "legitimate" to the point of collecting real world information about you to decide -- and then doing god knows what with that information
 
Here’s how it should go: Everyone gets to speak as long as it’s not threatening violence or openly encouraging it. And no, words that upset you are not violence. If you don’t like the words, don’t read them.

I hope Musk cleans all that up pronto.
Where do you draw the line of threading violence?

And how do you not read something? That's like threatening someone to not look at your spouse, but then not telling them who they are. The only way to ensure you don't read something is to have someone read it first and then make the call to show it to you or not.
 
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Although I don't think much of Elons arrogant attitude at times, it will be exciting to see what he does with Twitter.
 
To me this just looks like really rich people playing games with other really rich people. They use terms like censorship, free speech and more to make it look like they care about the village But do they really care? Or do they just care about power and money? Don’t know. Don’t care. I live the life I can control and be happy.
 
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Ugh. Well that sucks.
Not sure what tools regulators have at their disposal in this instance but here's to hoping they step in.
Why and on what grounds?
(Because I'm a petulant child and look to my umbilical overlords for everything - is not a great reason)
 
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Exactly right.
It's not about specific political alliances of users, but rather the content some are absorbing up and pushing

(I have this exact view about traditional very far left whack-a-doo anti-vax stuff as well)
Agreed- the far left are dangerous too.

I always liked this:


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Got to stay away from the extremes! Across Europe and America it's been sad to see the swing towards the right in recent years, and the cries from the right that Centrists are in fact all looney left/commies/woke/hippie.
 
Give me a break. It’s conservatives who have been censored on Twitter and all over democrat-run social media.

Everything went online starting in the 2000s, including the biggest opportunities for expression. But the tools for that expression have been run exclusively by leftwing, progressive nuts, who have actively tried to suppress any viewpoint they strongly disagree with or that might hurt their chances of seeing their political candidates win elections. That’s why Twitter suppressed the truthful story about Hunter Biden’s laptop. And why Facebook wouldn’t let anyone say anything in defense of Kyle Rittenhouse before the trial (though they were allowed to disparage him). And why Social media was rife with posts constantly undermining Trumps legitimate election with ridiculous talk about him being a Russian agent but Trump couldn’t suggest the 2020 election was illegitimate. Meanwhile rising stars of the Democratic Party like Stacey Abrams speak freely about losing due to election fraud and refuse to concede.

In other words, you can say it if it benefits progressives. You can’t say it if it harms their narratives.

Here’s how it should go: Everyone gets to speak as long as it’s not threatening violence or openly encouraging it. And no, words that upset you are not violence. If you don’t like the words, don’t read them.

I hope Musk cleans all that up pronto.
I hope things go into a positive direction, but realistically I'd say not very much will or can change in this regard.
 
I love how so. many. here. think that "Freedom of Speech" = "Freedom from Consequence".

Sadly, the right is winning this war, because they're the only ones that actually understand that it's already begun.

They're the ones with the money, they're the ones changing the laws to limit "The Other's" legal power across the board, they're the ones that have decimated what "verifiable facts" mean, and they're the ones arming themselves to the teeth.

So in many ways, the above has become true.

Wake up, "woke" people.

They. Are. Coming.
 
Your post will be moderated away shortly, but I wanted to chip in first. Conservatives aren't silenced for dissenting views- it just happens that the last few years there's been a wave of disinformation that some conservatives have bought into, fuelled by a conservative president who had a peculiar relationship with the truth.
Lol..

Exactly why Twitter needs to be taken private. "Your post will be moderated away shortly"

Free speech is about allowing people to speak their opinion. If you don't agree with the opinion, voice your opinion, it doesn't mean eliminate their opinion from discussion.
 
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Lol..

Exactly why Twitter needs to be taken private. "Your post will be moderated away shortly"

Free speech is about allowing people to speak their opinion. If you don't agree with the opinion, voice your opinion, it doesn't mean eliminate their opinion from discussion.

Going private in absolutely no way whatsoever guarantees what you're advocating for there..
 
It isn't
It's a private company

And you don't want them in the business of deciding who is "legitimate" to the point of collecting real world information about you to decide -- and then doing god knows what with that information
Elon Musk believes Twitter is, in fact, a town square. Given the size and reach of twitter, and the fact that there are no "town squares" anymore in the modern age where information is disseminated and exchanged -- especially political discussion -- I agree with him (and I am not an Elon Musk fan at all). On this issue, I believe him to be correct and it would mean that the 1st Amendment would effectively govern Twitter -- imagine that happening in in the good old USA! Net net -- this is a great development. People should not fear the free flow of information as the first amendment law has served the country quite well since the founding.
 
I'm following Bill Gate's lead. I have been shorting the stuffing out of TSLA. I suggest all of you do the same. This is beyond easy money. This is like finding it in your wallet. TWTR will fail, as he has already stated he plans to take it private. Bye Bye, from an investment standpoint. Make TSLA pay for it.
Have you… ever looked up the history of TSLA short sellers?
 
"He has secured $25.5bn of financing for the deal and will take a $21bn stake in the business."


Per the news release I cited, he will wholly own the entity owning Twitter.

Presumably to create that entity - perhaps an LLC or similar - he has secured financing, and committed to kicking in $21Bn of his own money.

From https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...ught-by-elon-musk-for-2444-billion/ar-AAWzEHr

Reports emerged over the weekend indicating that Twitter’s board had become more open to deal discussions, and the company ultimately accepted Musk’s offer at its original price. Musk said late last week that he had lined up deal funding, including $25.5 billion of debt commitments from Morgan Stanley and other financial institutions. He also offered an equity-commitment letter saying that he was prepared to kick in the remaining amount, equating to roughly $21 billion.
 
On this issue, I believe him to be correct and it would mean that the 1st Amendment would effectively govern Twitter

Do we have examples of private companies suddenly becoming governed under rules meant to deal only with the government?

This seems really far fetched to me.

There's nothing in the constitution or its amendments that say "once you have a lot of reach, you suddenly are beholden to rules meant of the government"
 
Elon Musk believes Twitter is, in fact, a town square. Given the size and reach of twitter, and the fact that there are no "town squares" anymore in the modern age where information is disseminated and exchanged -- especially political discussion -- I agree with him (and I am not an Elon Musk fan at all). On this issue, I believe him to be correct and it would mean that the 1st Amendment would effectively govern Twitter -- imagine that happening in in the good old USA! Net net -- this is a great development. People should not fear the free flow of information as the first amendment law has served the country quite well since the founding.
Reading this was like trying to outrun a roller coaster.
 
He can "believe" whatever he wants -- the doesn't make it so.
What he believes does actually make a difference (irrespective of congressional action that is moving in that direction) because he can willing make Twitter comply with first amendment law and precedent. Let's call it a perk of ownership.
 
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Here’s how it should go: Everyone gets to speak as long as it’s not threatening violence or openly encouraging it. And no, words that upset you are not violence. If you don’t like the words, don’t read them.

I hope Musk cleans all that up pronto.
What if it's Ukrainians saying that they will shoot invading Russian soldiers? Posting a picture of Ukrainian citizens making Molotov cocktails?

What if Trump says "I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks"
 
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