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Originally posted by djniche
could it be that mac is moving to the 17" flat screen as a starting size and scratching the 15"?
I have seen stores like compusa having discounts on the flat 15"

along those lines... with the new power books, there is a deal being offered if you get the apple displays and the dvi-adc connector.... however, this deal is only for the 17, 22, and 23.... which seems to me to be supporting some sort of phasing out of the 15... perhaps. just an interesting additional note.
 
I think that machine is first ugly mac in years, they should have released it 29 days ago
 
Re: Yuck

Originally posted by Macette
Oh my god. Now I have to eat my shoe. I hate that.
Technically, you don't have to eat your shoe. You said that they wouldn't release a "17in CRT iMac". This is cleary a 17in CRT eMac. Any lawyer will help you weasel ... er, out of this situation.

But if you have a nice pair of shoes made out of hemp ... errr, nevermind.
 
Re: Re: Yuck

Originally posted by ftaok
Technically, you don't have to eat your shoe. You said that they wouldn't release a "17in CRT iMac". This is cleary a 17in CRT eMac. Any lawyer will help you weasel ... er, out of this situation.

But if you have a nice pair of shoes made out of hemp ... errr, nevermind.

i'll have to second that. it ain't an iMac. it's not for the consumer market but is a rare product from apple - an afordable machine for a cash-strapped market. i.e. education.

off topic - seems to be a few melbourne folk here. me too

oh and for what it's worth i think it's cooler looking than the new iMac
the new iMac is so awkward looking
 
Re: Re: Re: Yuck

Originally posted by i_b_joshua
it's not for the consumer market but is a rare product from apple - an afordable machine for a cash-strapped market. i.e. education.

This is huge for the schools. The bigger screen, faster processor, it all makes sense if they want to move everything over to OSX they need to have a faster, cheaper machine than the LCD imac. Very cool, even if it is the ugly step child. Functionality works here more than style.:D
 
Originally posted by bobky
Looks great, well done apple!!!!!!!
:D
just one point, are the speakers like that of the quicksliver? if so easily poked by grubby handed kids.

I noticed that too. Might be something that Apple has to address with future revisions of the eMac.
 
emac vs the imac

now that the emac has arrived what does this mean fo the imac? not much at the moment. schools will now buy emacs instead of imacs. consumers cant get their hands on them and students will fork over the additional 3 or 4 hundred dollars to get the flatpanel combodrive imac over the emac.but will it compete with the crt imac again no. more for the buck to get the low end emac than to get the high end crt imac. Apple needs to drop prices and raise tech specs for the current line give it a 600 or 700 mhz G3 at least 128 megs of ram and prices for crt imac should be 599 (indigo cdrom) 699 (graphite cdr) 799 (graphite or snow dvd) that would beat anything dell has to offer at 599 even at 799 and it would definately increase Apples market share because people will continue to snap these machines up.
 
Perfect

The education market (of which I am a part of as I've stated before) has been skittish towards the flat panel iMacs for two reasons:

Cost (well over $1,000.00 for low end)

Perceived to be Easily Damaged

(Personally, I think they're worth it and they're built well enough to take some abuse, but, still,....)

What do we need, Apple? We need a machine with a decent size screen, G4 power and within a thousand bucks!

...and they Listened. :p


I am VERY happy with this new addition and LOVE starting out a Monday with such fun news!

(and bless their hearts, they're keeping G3 iMacs around as well, for an even less expensive entry point)

We Be Spendin' Some Money!
 
a love-hate relationship with the eMac...

I have a love-hate relationship with the new eMac.

First of all, the hate part. The name, eMac. The first thing I think of is eMachine (which any PC user would tell you is crap, its the crappiest of crap PCs). I helped my brother and my best friend buy eMachines and both were crap. eMachines are the joke of the computing world.. Someones going to think the eMac is an eMachine Mac clone...ugh.. Anyway just my 'hate' issue with the name..

I love the 17". I am though relieved the thing doesn't have a Superdrive in it, as I sit behind my G4 iMac 800 FlatPanel, writing you this message. I have had almost every version of the iMac and if it had a Superdrive, might have bought the eMac. Anyway, just my thoughts...

On to a third aspect, questions...

With the advent of the 17" iMac (okay, I'll try to call it eMac later)...how far is the flat planel away from becoming larger?? I'd hope Apple at least lets my machine get to be 1 year old before releasing a 17" flat panel...

Christopher
 
Re: Re: Speakers

Originally posted by Hemingray
Interesting... take a look at the following eMac pictures and compare:

http://a1632.g.akamai.net/7/1632/51...om/education/emac/images/specstop04302002.jpg

No speaker shields, shiny metal Apple logo

http://a1744.g.akamai.net/7/1744/51...ducation/emac/images/software_top04302002.jpg

Speaker shields, white/snow Apple logo

Weird...

where did these come from? Are they the same machine?

On the first one, it has an interesting rear end, not what I'd have expected. Looks good actually.
 
Hey people be honest!!!!!!

The damn thing is ugly as hell!!!!!
The damn thing is ugly as hell!!!!!
The damn thing is ugly as hell!!!!!
The damn thing is ugly as hell!!!!!
The damn thing is ugly as hell!!!!!
The damn thing is ugly as hell!!!!!
The damn thing is ugly as hell!!!!!
 
OH, please!

I thought the new iMac was ugly at first...I mean, Lump, Stick, Rectangle CAN WE TALK? Ugh!!

But I got used to it.

So this eMac ain't a work of art. It's simple and unassuming...that's good enough for me, considering the targeted audience.

By the way, here's some interesting info regarding this particular machine:

pricing for education (school sites) starts at $999.00. This price is not available for PERSONAL educator purchase, where prices start at the mid range level for $1,249.00

the power button and audio jacks, located on the front of the original iMac, have been moved to the side connector bay.

a Mini-VGA output port is available, requiring an optional VGA adapter.

the back of the unit sports a circular, spiral design.

to help schools manage inventory, the serial number and Ethernet ID are inside the optical drive door.

an optional Tilt and Swivel stand lifts the eMac 3 inches off the desktop and supports 20 degrees of pivot.

although touted as a 17-inch CRT, the actual diagonal viewable area is 16-inches.

the 1280x960 maximum resolution provides for nearly 50 percent more viewing area than the iMac's 1024x768.

the eMac is slated to ship in "late May"
 
Re: Hey people be honest!!!!!!

Originally posted by mymemory
The damn thing is ugly as hell!!!!!

I have to disagree. It's not the prettiest, but it serves its purpose! If educators were concerned about aesthetics, do you honestly think they'd fill rooms full of beige peecees? I'd rather look at an eMac, thanks.
 
I personally don't think it's ugly, it reminds me of one of the machines in 2010, although this is off the top of my head, will check the DVD later.....

It's very minimal looking, and certainly better now that the front is completely flat.......

Shame it's white, snow.... :D
Eww.......

It's still a blinding move by Apple though!!!
 
My GOD, you people like to complain. Don't you know something good when you see it?

Anyway, give it a second look. Remember, we were all shocked and appalled when they released the original iMac (as well as the new one, oh yeah, and the first iBook)at how completely ugly it was.
 
Originally posted by j763
Hey guys,

I've got a G3 500MHz white iBook -- is the speed difference noticable in the eMac (velocity engine etc.?). I'm low on cash and had my eye on the new iMac but it is just too expensive for me at the moment.

Any advice as to what to do?

No matter what, 700 is faster than 500. PLUS the G4/G3 difference. But unless you are a student, none of this should matter. If you like the iBook, stick with it. A faster version is probably on the way soon.
 
I got up this morning and walked past the morning paper, catching a glimpse of this thing out of the corner of my eye. I thought, pshhh... a PC manufacturer ripping off the iMac form design... then I took a closer look... A new Mac???

Got to admit that it took a while for the design to grow on me. Same was true with the LCD iMac, but now I'm really starting to like it, particularly on the optional stand.

So, one thing I noticed is the lack of vents on the top. The only thing that looks like a vent is the ring on the back (which looks like it should start spinning like a big turbo-fan engine when you turn the computer on). Does anyone know about the internal fan situation? Just curious.

With the G4 and the GeForce 2 video and larger display area, do you think this will eat into LCD iMac sales at all?
 
Originally posted by CHess
With the G4 and the GeForce 2 video and larger display area, do you think this will eat into LCD iMac sales at all?

It can't eat into LCD iMac sales TOO much, just by virtue of the computer not being available to the general public. (You have to sign in to the K-12/Higher Education section of the Apple Store just to order it.)
 
Ives' stuff always seems to look better in person. I'm waiting to see one before I judge. (From the photos I think the stand helps its looks).

Strange resolution, 1280x960 - true 4:3, just like 640x480, scaled up. Normally monitors go for 1280x1024 or 5:4 at this res. Wonder why this is?
 
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