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eMac G5 put on hold. G4 model back in production

Nope.

broken_keyboard said:
These chip problems never seem to end. Should have switched to Intel years ago.

If your Mac was running an Intel chip right now, would OS X look any different? Would the computer look any different? No.
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- If Apple were to use an Intel chip do you really believe they'd get the newest chips before DELL?
- No, Apple would turn into HP or Gateway or worse if they had to wait in a queue to get the latest chip from Intel.

- Would we have to put up with HOT SLOW, but market hyped, processors( P4 )?
 
MAYBE IBM CAN DO AN INTEL

W a a a y y back in the day INTEL were having bags of problems keeping up with demand for the 8088 chip, so they outsourced some of the work to AMD.

Intel solved there supply problems but were stuck with a situation where AMD were allowed to make Intel combatible chips.

Just a thought anyway.
 
It makes sense, sort of..

Apple has been selling more iMac G5's than expected, so it sort of makes sense that all 1.6 are still going to iMacs, even though they believed they would be able to get some for the eMac.
 
mcarnes said:
They should just drop the emac line. Those things are so butt-ugly it makes the whole company look bad (IMO!). They should bring back the 17" G4 iMac design and make it the low model. That would kick.
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agree 100% - although assume the e-mac is being used in school environments and there the 'lamp design' may not take the wear and tear
 
What I get from the threads I've been reading is that most iMacs are being bought with the 1.8 G5. There doesn't seem to be any shortage as shipping times are now reasonable and you can get 2 1.8 G5's in a PM shipped within 24hrs.

Maybe the 1.6 is in short supply because lack of demand has killed production.

Could this mean the eMac will appear only when they can fill it with 1.8's because they've been able to bump the iMac and PM lines to 2.0 & 3.0?

I don't buy the argument that Apple would hold back any desktop ranges just so they don't out perform laptops. I see these as different markets.

LCD vs CRT any argument that LCD can't live happily in the classroom with sticky fingered kids is flawed. All that would be needed is a glass fronted LCD like the AG neovo I'm using.

Cost wise I know that traditional CRT's have been cheaper to produce but the switch to LCD's generally for TV's as well as PC's means the economies of scale probably mean that that difference has been eroded and will almost certainly mean that any switch to widescreen eMac's would require the sourcing of a LCD.
 
the G5 is a very hot running chip

will people stop harping on about G5 PowerBooks.

not gonna happen anytime soon without your PowerBook being several inches thick.

dual-core processors seem to be the PowerBooks future, G4+ ?
 
mcarnes said:
They should just drop the emac line. Those things are so butt-ugly it makes the whole company look bad (IMO!). They should bring back the 17" G4 iMac design and make it the low model. That would kick.
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seeing as they sell extremely well schools still need crts and makeing an lcd emac would be pointless as it would be too expensive.

also to the guy who says will it compete with the powerbooks cheap ass p4 dells compete with there top end laptops if you can upgrade a line while keeping the price low why the hell should you not do it
 
If they are returning the eMac G4 to production perhaps they intend to wait quite a while before switching to a G5 - and we may not see anything until well into 2005 :eek:

The thought of Apple selling the G4 eMac in 2005 with the exact same specs and exact same price as they were a year ago doesn't look good for Apple in my opinion.
 
MacSA said:
The thought of Apple selling the G4 eMac in 2005 with the exact same specs and exact same price as they were a year ago doesn't look good for Apple in my opinion.
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You're right, it won't look good, but I'm pretty sure that while the chip maybe the same, they may zap up the spec in other ways. But I agree with Apple on holding off the G5 eMac so it doesn't canibalise into the iMac sales.
 
Savage Henry said:
But I agree with Apple on holding off the G5 eMac so it doesn't canibalise into the iMac sales.
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That's not good if you want a new eMac. Theres no way i'd by the current eMac at it's current price.
 
mcarnes said:
They should just drop the emac line. Those things are so butt-ugly it makes the whole company look bad (IMO!). They should bring back the 17" G4 iMac design and make it the low model. That would kick.
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I don't agree. The eMac is the best looking CRT computer I can think of. I know that is debatable, but the design is also very similar to the iMac except for the flat panel.

You want to replace the low end with another LCD model? That's not possible. You can't compare a CRT model and an LCD model and expect to get the LCD at the same price.

On the other hand. At Dell you can get now get a 2.8GHz P4, 512MB RAM, 160GB HD, a 17" LCD flat panel and a printer for $804 :eek: It has Intel integrated graphics, though. But still, Dell does amaze me when it comes to price these days.
 
People are going to have high expectations of MWSF next year lol MAYBE new G5 eMacs, MAYBE new Powerbooks, a possible flash based iPod. It's either going to be a great show or a bit of a disspaointment ;)
 
MacSA said:
That's not good if you want a new eMac. Theres no way i'd by the current eMac at it's current price.
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Totally agree. I was going to include " or drop by a 100 bucks or so " in my post but didn't get round to it (phone rang)

Another 12 months at the current level will certainly make the eMac very expensive for what you get. I just think that conversely putting a G5 chip in it will not do the iMac many favours, and there's bigger margins to be had there.
 
I don't understand this eMac vs PowerBook fight. :confused:

Laptops and desktops are and have always been two totally different worlds. People shouldn't try to compare laptops performance and components to desktop ones, it's pointless.

I have been waiting for new eMacs as I'll propably make a decision between iMac G5 and new eMac.
 
I've never understood what all the fuss is about regarding the eMac and why it must be crippled compared to the PowerBooks and iMacs. The idea of the eMac is that it provides a cheap and cost-effective Apple solution to the cheap Dells that schools and families can purchase if they just want a no frills desktop computer for average everyday things. But even the low end Dells have >2.8GHz P4 chips in them these days.

An eMac with the same specs as the iMac G5 will sell well but I don't think it would eat too heavily into iMac sales just because it is cheaper. The eMac does still have a CRT and is not as nice to look at as the iMac. Not to mention, 20" LCDs don't come cheap, so the 20" iMac is very good value.

There is no reason why, with cheaper components, Apple can't make as much money on eMacs sold, so it wouldn't actually matter if eMac sales went through the roof anyway. At the end of the day, it's better to have loads of Mac sales to increase market share, even if the majority of them are low profit eMac systems. Those who switch will move onto iMacs, PowerBooks and Power Macs with their next computer purchase down the line.

Regarding the eMac vs PowerBook debate. At the end of the day, an eMac is a desktop computer and there's still no reason why pro users (non graphics/design/3D) can't use that if they need more power. There are always going to be compromises with notebook performance due to form factor and portability reasons. Plus, if they can't make a G5 work in a an inch thick laptop, then they can't put a G5 in there. It's not rocket science. :rolleyes: :p All I say is don't cripple the eMac just because of PowerBook engineering problems. The PowerBook needn't worry. I wanted a PowerBook and I bought one. The eMac may have been a bit more powerful but there was no way I could lug that thing around in my backpack ;) :D
 
smirre said:
I don't understand this eMac vs PowerBook fight. :confused:

Laptops and desktops are and have always been two totally different worlds. People shouldn't try to compare laptops performance and components to desktop ones, it's pointless.
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My point exactly!
 
mpw said:
What I get from the threads I've been reading is that most iMacs are being bought with the 1.8 G5. There doesn't seem to be any shortage as shipping times are now reasonable and you can get 2 1.8 G5's in a PM shipped within 24hrs.

Maybe the 1.6 is in short supply because lack of demand has killed production.
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I'd bet you anything the 1.6 is just an underclocked 1.8 off the same line. Which would explain why the popularity of the G5 Imac could be putting constraints on the supply of lower clocked G5s.

Cheers.
 
i don't have an emac, nor do i want one, but it bothers me when others bash it. sure its big and unattractive, but it has its place. its a niche product and apple would be well to keep it in the fold.
 
gekko513 said:
On the other hand. At Dell you can get now get a 2.8GHz P4, 512MB RAM, 160GB HD, a 17" LCD flat panel and a printer for $804 :eek: It has Intel integrated graphics, though. But still, Dell does amaze me when it comes to price these days.
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you get what you pay for, though i suppose that's microsofts fault more than dell's.
 
"Renaissance" of eMac G4

Sell it at 649$ US!

(799$ cnd)

In all market and currency, under "1000" is possible!
Make price a marketing "Trojan" in PC market, just for a moment:
when a newbies pc compare "low pricing Dell" vs "eMac" and see similar price,
you got a point: "Mac is not so expensive.... :) )

turn a negative momentum in a positive battle for Holidays seasons!
 
Well, I for one, quite like the eMac and think it looks pretty good aesthetically, especially on a swivel stand.

A G5 version would possibly convince me to buy one, especially since the Superdrive would be 8x instead of the iMac 4x (due to the horizontal/vertical orientation).

As I am not officially in the market till the beginning of 2005, this news does not irk me too much.

One issue, mentioned previously, is the GPU scenario. I would hope with the release delayed till 2005 that both the eMac and the iMac will be given much better cards to correspond with the (soon-after) release of tiger.
 
Design-wise, I think eMac's are cool just the way they are. I don't think Apple should or would ditch the CRT for an LCD. It doesn't play to the computers purpose.

I think this lack of upgrade shows where the eMac lies in the pecking order, and rightfully so IMHO. If Apple needs to keep G5's allocated to iMacs to make sure supply doesn't fall of, so be it.

My 1.25Ghz eMac works fine and was CHEAP! :D

-Tim
 
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