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eMac G5?
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Zigster said:Apple is not in the habit of lowering prices. They usually increase specs and hold the price.
The emac is def due to be refreshed. It's highly likely to be a G5.
If so, turn down the audio on your computer because the powerbook whining will be intense.
That's ok, I don't use text-to-speech software!
dream on
I think it will feature one 1.4 Ghz and the bigger one 1.6 Ghz, the prices may then be okay, else I do NOT see these prices anytime soon. maybe the bigger model with 1.6 will be even 1.099 and the low model 849
joeyboy76 said:
I think it will feature one 1.4 Ghz and the bigger one 1.6 Ghz, the prices may then be okay, else I do NOT see these prices anytime soon. maybe the bigger model with 1.6 will be even 1.099 and the low model 849
The iBooks only received a small speed bump and the addition of AirPort Express cards. The 12" iBook STILL has the same 30Gb hard drive its had seemingly forever.
Regarding any eMac update, I can't see them adding the AE card - and if they do stay with the G4 and bump up the speed slightly they'll need to add something else to make it a worthwhile update.
I thought maybe we might see something this Tuesday, but it looks like it's iPod day.
Regarding any eMac update, I can't see them adding the AE card - and if they do stay with the G4 and bump up the speed slightly they'll need to add something else to make it a worthwhile update.
I thought maybe we might see something this Tuesday, but it looks like it's iPod day.
Just based on the recent higher value of the Canadian dollar Apple could lower the price of the combo eMac from CAD$1049 to $999. Offering a sub$1000 mac in Canada without needing a education discount. But the "Apple Canada exchange rate" is better today than it was a couple years ago.
But I'm not sure about a eMac G5 coming out soon. There don't seem to be any supply issues with the lower clocked G5s and they are likely cheaper than the G4s, so maybe. I wouldn't be surprised by either a 1.5GHz G4 or a 1.4 or 1.6GHz G5 in the next eMac within the next month.
But I'm not sure about a eMac G5 coming out soon. There don't seem to be any supply issues with the lower clocked G5s and they are likely cheaper than the G4s, so maybe. I wouldn't be surprised by either a 1.5GHz G4 or a 1.4 or 1.6GHz G5 in the next eMac within the next month.
Hmmm...
I don't understand why everyone thinks that the next eMac can't have the same speed processors as the current iMacs. Apple had this type of setup with the G4's and somehow still sold plenty of iMacs.
This is my prediction for the next eMac:
G5 1.6 ($799 or $899)
80 Gig SATA HDD
GeForce 5200 Ultra 64mb
everything else the same
G5 1.8 ($999 or $1099)
160 Gig SATA HDD
GeForce 5200 Ultra 64mb
everything else the same
I can't see Apple ever including any type of wireless (bluetooth or 802.11g) in a desktop Mac as standard because edu customers buy tons of these systems and the security issue is too great. It will always be an BTO option. The hard drive updates make sense because Panther is already a big space hog and I'm betting Tiger is bigger still. Your already losing 10% of your hard drive space just for the OS on the low end model. There's almost no price difference between a 40 or 80 gig and I don't even think you can get a 40gig SATA drive anyway. The GeForce 5200 is also a pretty logical because it would make all desktop Macs consistant with the same video card. Makes writing drivers pretty easy. I do think that the price will go up $100USD because of the G5 though. I would complain that much because it is a much faster system.
I don't understand why everyone thinks that the next eMac can't have the same speed processors as the current iMacs. Apple had this type of setup with the G4's and somehow still sold plenty of iMacs.
This is my prediction for the next eMac:
G5 1.6 ($799 or $899)
80 Gig SATA HDD
GeForce 5200 Ultra 64mb
everything else the same
G5 1.8 ($999 or $1099)
160 Gig SATA HDD
GeForce 5200 Ultra 64mb
everything else the same
I can't see Apple ever including any type of wireless (bluetooth or 802.11g) in a desktop Mac as standard because edu customers buy tons of these systems and the security issue is too great. It will always be an BTO option. The hard drive updates make sense because Panther is already a big space hog and I'm betting Tiger is bigger still. Your already losing 10% of your hard drive space just for the OS on the low end model. There's almost no price difference between a 40 or 80 gig and I don't even think you can get a 40gig SATA drive anyway. The GeForce 5200 is also a pretty logical because it would make all desktop Macs consistant with the same video card. Makes writing drivers pretty easy. I do think that the price will go up $100USD because of the G5 though. I would complain that much because it is a much faster system.
Yvan256 said:Remember, we can get 600$CAN full-equipped windows boxes here. Of course, they're not that great, but they're not that crappy either (not low-end) and they get the job done.
Apple computers are REALLY overpriced (almost twice the price of a mid-range windows box for the low-end Mac).
Come on Apple, ComboDrive eMac for 799$CAN and Superdrive eMac for 999$CAN!
I agree.
A Dual Layer 8x DVD +-RW burner in Australia costs ~$150AUD, and apple want $200USD for a single layer
. Apple is only surviving on the sales of the iPod. remove that product and what's left?dbauer said:
Well, both eMac models have always been the same (I think) except for the combo/superdrive and HD size differences.
But that hardware at those prices? From Apple?
We can only hope.
(I just wish the iBook revision would've included the GeForce 5200 Ultra 64MB too).
The current price difference is too great for Apple to continue to sell iMacs if eMacs have these specs and prices. Now, if you were to drop the processor specs a bit, to 1.4 GHz G5s (which should be dirt-cheap for Apple to buy), I can definitely see this happening. Agree with your other specs. And, of course, 256 MB of RAMdbauer said:
.My guess:
eMac G5
1.4Ghz G5
19" Monitor (short tube and thinner bazel allow total eMac size to stay roughly the same)
Everything else stays the same.
eMac G5
1.4Ghz G5
19" Monitor (short tube and thinner bazel allow total eMac size to stay roughly the same)
Everything else stays the same.
wrylachlan said:
I really hope that they have CoreImage/CoreVideo 64 meg video card option or even standard...
For the record, $1049CAN = $850US. Plus, some of us pay tax too. It's not 15%, but it is 8.8% here, soon to be higher possibly. And if you were using a Sony FX-1, you would probably not be using an eMac to edit HD video. Prices do sometimes go down as they increase specs, such as with the new iBooks. Sometimes they do keep the same price, like with the new iMac. If they do add a G5 to the eMac, which I don't think they would just yet, it will probaby increase the price. Unless it comes much later. Apple does still need a lowend Mac.
Just to clear up some misconceptions.
Just to clear up some misconceptions.
reconditioned eMACs = backdoor sell-off ?
There seems to be an abundant supply of reconditioned eMACs on Apple's site and at one of the retailers (I think MAcConnection). I check Apples refurb site daily, and while other models are sporadically available, the eMacs are a permanent staple over the past few weeks.
Wild speculation, but is this some kind of concealed blow-out sale to make room for an upgraded version?
There seems to be an abundant supply of reconditioned eMACs on Apple's site and at one of the retailers (I think MAcConnection). I check Apples refurb site daily, and while other models are sporadically available, the eMacs are a permanent staple over the past few weeks.
Wild speculation, but is this some kind of concealed blow-out sale to make room for an upgraded version?
solvs said:
Everyone says IBM has problems making high-speed G5's, but those "defective" G5's can probably run at lower speeds. Also, everyone says the G5 costs *less* than the G4.
Given those two rumors, I can't see a reason why the eMac G5 would cost more than the eMac G4.
The chips themselves. But what about the chipsets, cooling, serial ATA, etc? That's what costs. Though they did release the G5 iMac at the same prices as the G4. But the G4 iMac was quite expensive to produce, and it had little to do with the chip itself.Yvan256 said:
Plus, we're not even sure of that anymore. G4s may well be cheaper to produce now that they don't have yeild issues and Moto has "re-invented" itself. I don't really know either way.
As runing quiet comes standard on all macs, how will the emac cope with a much hotter chip than the G4?
Also, while the 5200 ultra crapo is not acceptable on the iMac, on a cheap eMac it would be a big speed boost.
Can't see the monitor being changed unless the new eMac is the first of a new form factor, would be nice though. (Bloody heavy too!!)
Also, while the 5200 ultra crapo is not acceptable on the iMac, on a cheap eMac it would be a big speed boost.
Can't see the monitor being changed unless the new eMac is the first of a new form factor, would be nice though. (Bloody heavy too!!)
Original Rumour...
Here's a reminder of the original rumour:
Reliable reports have also indicated that the company plans to introduce a reworked version of an existing desktop computer later this year, coinciding with due revisions to eMacs life cycle. This product, according to sources, has been under development at Apple for nearly 10 months and features slight external and major internal modifications to one of the company's current offerings.
According to sources, Apple has been developing a redesigned eMac based around a G5 processor and more robust graphics processor, but may still choose to introduce one more incarnation of the eMac G4 due to current cost efficiency and supply concerns associated with the G5.
.........a slot loading CD/DVD drive would be nice I think. They certanly need to offer something more than a small speed bump, the 12" iBook for example received a speed bump, airport express cards AND a price reduction.
Here's a reminder of the original rumour:
Reliable reports have also indicated that the company plans to introduce a reworked version of an existing desktop computer later this year, coinciding with due revisions to eMacs life cycle. This product, according to sources, has been under development at Apple for nearly 10 months and features slight external and major internal modifications to one of the company's current offerings.
According to sources, Apple has been developing a redesigned eMac based around a G5 processor and more robust graphics processor, but may still choose to introduce one more incarnation of the eMac G4 due to current cost efficiency and supply concerns associated with the G5.
.........a slot loading CD/DVD drive would be nice I think. They certanly need to offer something more than a small speed bump, the 12" iBook for example received a speed bump, airport express cards AND a price reduction.
MacSA said:
But in my opinion, a slot loading combo/superdrive and a small speed bump hardly equals "slight external and major internal modifications".
My bet is also on a 17" CRT, G5/1.4GHz, 256MB, GeForce 5200 Ultra 64MB, slot-loading combo/superdrive.
Then again, the iBook is still running on the Radeon 9200 with 32MB, so that's also a possibility.
Could be nice, could be not.
If it is a G5 it suffers from the same problem as all the other G5 powered Macs.
32Bit OS on 64Bit hardware.
If it is a G5 it suffers from the same problem as all the other G5 powered Macs.
32Bit OS on 64Bit hardware.
I agree with your specs, and I do think the video card will be the GeForce 5200 Ultra. As a matter of fact, Apple might even use the same MB as it does for the iMac, just with the slightly slower G5 in it. That way, additional R&D costs could be minimized.Yvan256 said:But in my opinion, a slot loading combo/superdrive and a small speed bump hardly equals "slight external and major internal modifications".
My bet is also on a 17" CRT, G5/1.4GHz, 256MB, GeForce 5200 Ultra 64MB, slot-loading combo/superdrive.
Then again, the iBook is still running on the Radeon 9200 with 32MB, so that's also a possibility.
Well this sounds interesting. I'm cancelling my imac G5 order in the morning as it has been on order for two months and still no sign of it in the near future.
So an emac with a 1.5 G4/5 processor and a 64mb radeon 9200 would be fine for me. If one came out with those specs I would buy immediately. I would not buy if it still had a 32mb graphics card though - I like to play games sometimes and obviously there would be no point in buying it with only 32mb graphics.
What are the chances of this being released this week? I've checked on some online dealers and it seems emac stocks are very low, in fact macwarehouse (UK) has not a single one left according to its site.
So an emac with a 1.5 G4/5 processor and a 64mb radeon 9200 would be fine for me. If one came out with those specs I would buy immediately. I would not buy if it still had a 32mb graphics card though - I like to play games sometimes and obviously there would be no point in buying it with only 32mb graphics.
What are the chances of this being released this week? I've checked on some online dealers and it seems emac stocks are very low, in fact macwarehouse (UK) has not a single one left according to its site.
MacSA said:
Yep I agree, I'm hoping for at least a 1.5 chip and a 64mb graphics card. Beyond that, anything else is going to be welcome. I am actually always quite excited when a new emac is released (sad I know) as Apple always gets an excellent machine out for a decent price. Will be interesting to see what happens...
tom.96 said:
Why is it sad to be excited for a new eMac release? Heck, I only look forward to the following releases:
- eMac
- iBook
- iPod Flash mini
The other releases are nice (iMac, PowerMac, PowerBook, iPod Photo), but they're so expensive, I don't even remotely think about buying one of those.
No, the eMac and iBook are what will form the majority of the new Apple buyers/switchers, so those are really important.
We might see new eMacs as soon as tomorrow, so let's just hope they go at least with a G5/1.4GHz and GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB.
Or if they're still G4, one of those new Freescale ones (you know, the ones with a bus speed higher than 167MHz? <g>).