Email Client and Applications for Mac OS9

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  1. bobesch, Mar 13, 2016
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    bobesch macrumors 6502a

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    This weekend I've set up my KeyLime Clamshell to run dual-boot Tiger and OS9.
    Installation of Tiger had been a snap by just making a SuperDuper! copy of my Graphite-Clamshell.
    My journey to MacOS9 just started a few weeks ago, and I was quite amazed how snappy the system responds even with Classic-emulation.
    I like emulations and virtualization. But now I wanted the real think, after I was completely unlucky to set up SheepShaver properly.
    There has been some software I've collected by auctions/local sellers for a few bucks including Office2001, Adobe Acrobat 5, PowerPoint7 and VirtualPC 3, 5, 6 and 7(VPC3 came with Win98, VPC5/6/7 with XPpro)
    There's also a bunch of nice stuff at Macintosh Garden: Acrobat 5, Acrobat Reader, Apple Works 6, Classilla, Eudora 6.1, ClarisMail, Claris HomePage Creator, Print-To-PDF Extension, Fax-Client.
    Connecting to the Internet works fine with LAN-cable. I didn't set up that first Apple U.F.O. Airport-station yet due to the low encryption but maybe I'll try that later.
    And I'm really exited about checking if and up to what level FTP, File Access, Remote Desktop and VNC will work.
    The VirtualPC versions can be installed side-by-side but only one version will run at a time.
    VPC3/Win98 runs really fast and smooth (I was able to install/run the first C&C and IfanView, one of my favorite daily helpers, when it comes to pictures, scanning, the one-click "restauration" of old photos etc. ). VPC6/WinXPpro is really slow, but I'd like to check if it's possible to run Lancom-AvancedVPNClient + WinXP-RDP-Client, since that is the last version to connect with WinServer2008 at my office (if it will work, my neXT step will be the installation of OS9/VPC6/WinXP to a faster iBookG4 1,3GHz.)
    To make that long story short - the only thing I'm currently missing is an email-Client to work despite the latest changings of most internet-providers. At http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2603.0 (from 2015) I've found the information, that the email-option of Classilla does still work. Another response to this thread had been about a Microsoft client to work (no further information, maybe Entourage from Office2001?).
    Would be nice to hear more about Your experience about MacOS9, Email-Clients and favorite applications/essentials.
     
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  3. bobesch thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks, I'll have a look!
     
  4. Beavix macrumors 6502a

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    I probably tried all the email clients I could still find for Mac OS 9. None of them work properly with the modern email providers because of one reason: they don't support the latest encryption technologies. You'll have to use an email provider which still allows unencrypted (unsecured) connections.

    The Clasilla email client is probably your best bet because it's the most modern one but sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Last time I tried it could receive Office 365 emails but it couldn't send them.
     
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    Mulberry 3.1.6a, with NEW SSL Certificates.
    Hard to find. i can PM you the location.
     
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    Could you send it to me too, please? Thanks!
     
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    I'd also be interested in trying this out, if you would share the location. Thanks!
     
  8. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    Love the avatar Ash!!!! :D
     
  9. bobesch thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I'd be very happy about that! :)
     
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    Trari Trara - it's wunderbar... :)
     
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    For email you could just use Google.com. They still host the basic version of the website "For Slower Connections" but it's essentially Google from 2003 and runs pretty much as you'd expect a 2003 era website to work on a 2003 era computer.
     
  15. Beavix macrumors 6502a

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    I haven't been able to make iCloud mail work in Mulberry. It can't authenticate to the server, probably because Mulberry doesn't seem to support TLS. :(
     
  16. saxfun macrumors newbie

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    iCloud? You'll never get a working iCloud account with OS9. Mulberry is only working for modern POP and IMAP accounts, that is incredibly modern!
    For iCloud on OSX (PPC) you only have the option to use SOHO Organizer. Or some Fluid Apps.
     
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    iCloud mail is IMAP. It works fine on Leopard/PPC in Apple Mail. The problem is Classic email clients are not compatible with the newest encryption standards (TLS). Gmail is less restrictive, it still allows SSLv3 connections.

    PS: iCloud mail also works on Tiger/PPC.
     
  18. bobesch, Mar 18, 2016
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    Many thanks for your help about MacOS9 :) - this weekend there's spare time to check all the options MacOS9 may offer. Fortunately "The Missing Manual" arrived just in time...

    As for PPC Tiger/Leopard I also simply use the Mail-App for iCloud. Even that odd combination of "mail.mac.com" (IMAP) and "smtp.mail.me.com" (SMTP) does work "out of the box". Hope this will be future-proof (at least until my EOL ;)) For iCal/Contacts "SOHO Organzier" seems to be the only choice. I was very happy to get a hint about this App here in the PPC-Forum. :rolleyes:

    OS9 Missing Manual.JPG
     
  19. Daniël Oosterhuis macrumors 6502a

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    Ugh, that bright green lime iBook is making me jealous. :p
     
  20. bobesch, Mar 18, 2016
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    I was lucky to find it. FW466MHz/128GB HDD.:rolleyes:

    ... and it also runs Tiger, when I'm upset to fiddle around with OS9 (which is the case just now)

    Trying to get a working email-connection for my .mac/.me/.icloud accound with Entourage (with latest 2005-update), MullberryMail or Classilla all failed (Classilla finally froze the OS).

    On the other hand I was happy to connect my iBookG4/Leopard to OS9 via AFP-FileSharing to get access to files on the OS9 machine.
    Obviously the only way to get OS9 connected to an OSX environment since AFP changed radically after OSX 10.5. (thanks to Intell who clearly made the point in another MR-posting!)
    Trying to setup Leopard-Server in a VM with Fusion I'm curious about, if VM-Leopard will be able to connect to OS9 too
     
  21. bobesch thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Ha! Swearing on Classilla and OS9 seems to help a lot!
    iCloud-email works - Eureka!!!
    The full imap-access. I'm stunned.
    Now Classilla's web/email and file-sharing PPC-Leopard/Tiger => OS9 allows basic connectivity to OS9.
    With Screen/File-Sharing to PPC-Leopard/Tiger also OSX 10.11 is able to get access to OS9. (Or just by email attachments)

    neXT: looking for VNC/ScreenSharing and FTP options
     
  22. saxfun macrumors newbie

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    Nice that you Share your findings. I'm runnning OSX Server 3 with Mavericks 24/7 and sharing files with the included ftp server, but only in my LAN. Ftp is too vulnerable.
     
  23. bobesch, Mar 19, 2016
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    So this is the future, where 'El Capitan' is able to connect to OS9 via FileSharing
    using VMwareFusion with Leopard-Server (Finder/GoTo/ConnectWithServer: afp://.../)
    BackToOS9.jpg

    Solution for webDAV: Goliath 1.01 http://www.webdav.org/goliath/#desc

    Solution for FTP: Fetch 4.0.3 http://fetchsoftworks.com/fetch/download/
    I could get FTP access from OS9 to PPC/Leopard, but yet haven't been able to connect to the VirtualMachine running Leopard-Server. No connection to OSX10.11.
     
  24. swamprock macrumors regular

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    VNC? Easy! VNCThing or Timbuktu. I use VNCThing myself...
     

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