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Embracing the Notch: How Are You Adapting to the Most Controversial iPhone X Design Decision?
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Good to know, but it only works on the far right 10% or less of the screen and some apps have a button right there...Sure there is, it's always top-right, relative to the orientation of the phone - same goes for notifications - and they both have a nice landscape layout as well.
Glad to hear a view from a developer's side of things. I can appreciate the desire to reduce complexity. Do you think this will reduce the appeal of developing for iOS? Is it more difficult than what Garmin Connect developers face when writing apps that support circular, square, and rectangular devices?
I also wonder for those that say that the notch is a poor design compromise, what would be the alternative to achieve maximal screen space on the phone while also accomodating the required sensors? If the sensors were placed elsewhere, that too would be a design compromise. Would it be worse? It would be less intuitive or easy use than the sensors facing forward. If the sensors were not there, well that would fundamentally change the functionality of the phone. I guess the question becomes, and became for Apple, what were they willing to compromise on.
I like the fact that the phone has the display pushed to the corners, but I also see how the 'ears' have limitations when it comes to their usefullness (other than the aesthetic appeal - I personally think they give the phone some character).
buttons don't matter since you're swiping for control center instead of pressing a button.. the phone will distinguish between the two.
for example-- in portrait mode on X..
the ears are effectively buttons.. you can tap in those areas in order to scroll to the top of a page (when applicable)..
but you can also swipe those areas for a different functionality..
(as in-- tap the right notch to scroll up.. swipe it for control center)
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try it with Safari.. when the address bar is showing, the tab switcher button is in the same place as the control center swipe..
also.. it's more than 10% of the right side for the swipe.. with the Safari example, the new tab button is also included in the control center area..
also, all those other buttons/address fields are underneath the notifications swipe..
and again, the phone will distinguish between a press and a swipe so no issues there either.
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i don't think i'm taking things literally here.. i'm just unclear on your point. (or-- i don't think your point is valid)
because when i go to that link, here is a summary of the first page (the people who had an opinion on the design):
...like, i think you might of posted the wrong link if what you meant was to show MR members criticizing other companies while praising Apple..
- Color me impressed--far better looking than anything available so far, and actually looks like a watch.
- I'm genuinely excited about this.
- Looks great, I hope its also compatible with iOS. Any word on that?
- Very nice Motorola. Me likey.
- Finally a stylish smartwatch.
- Pretty... Me want...
- It looks amazing.
- Now this is what a smartwatch should look like.
- Finally, a decent looking smartwatch
- If the final product looks anything like this, sign me up!
- Looks awesome. Woulb buy
- Might just be the first smart watch design I'd actually wear. I'm interested.
- If (and that is a big if) Google can deliver, I will probably switch.
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- (maybe the following exchange is the negative part?)
- I know it's only a render but that is one ugly a$$ leather band.
- I think it is meh (the leather). I would personally take the metal band one, if given a choice
i mean, i see F A R more members criticizing Apple than what i'm seeing in the Motorola thread.. i can't think of the last time i saw that amount of praise for something Apple made around here.. probably never
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[edit] wait, what??
you've been a member here for two weeks.
hmm..
I fail to see how me being a member for 2 weeks has any baring on me sharing an opinion. I'm going to venture a guess that English is not your native language as you seem to have trouble inferring what i'm talking about.
I'll reiterate my point one more time. When the Moto 360 released a device with a flat tire, Macrumor members ripped it to shreads. Now that Apple has released (in my opinion) a similar design "flaw", many have praised it.
Hence my comment about the hipocrosy.
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And I can play that game to.
well, when you're giving an opinion on members around here then i do think it'd be better if you were more involved with the community than a couple weeks worth.. prior to passing judgement.
for clarity, i'm not defending the other members.. it's possible you'll arrive at a similar conclusion a few years from now.. but still, cred is very low for the time being.
oh jfc dude.. are you new to the internet in general or something? anybody can tell what my native tongue is..
please-- open that thread you linked to... start reading the topic..
realize, that's also what i did-- upon your direction.
and when i did that, all i see is praise... and all you would see is praise as well if you opened that topic and skimmed through the first couple of pages.
or, are you expecting people to click your link and read 25 pages of forum posts in order to hopefully get an idea of what you're talking about?
if so, that horrible interwebz forum etiquette.. try a new approach.
you quoted the same person over and over again
I'm guessing you missed the part where I own an iphone X(and praised it), along with my 15+ years of owning nothing but Apple products?
What is with people and this whole "if you didn't like the iphone X, it's because you can't afford one!" mentality? The only people I encounter on a daily basis with this type of mindset are teens and those in their early 20's. But then again coming from someone who uses the word "hater" in 2017.....I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
I'm glad you enjoy your iphone X, as do I.
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well, when you're giving an opinion on members around here then i do think it'd be better if you were more involved with the community than a couple weeks worth.. prior to passing judgement.
for clarity, i'm not defending the other members.. it's possible you'll arrive at a similar conclusion a few years from now.. but still, cred is very low for the time being.
oh jfc dude.. are you new to the internet in general or something? anybody can tell what my native tongue is..
please-- open that thread you linked to... start reading the topic..
realize, that's also what i did-- upon your direction.
and when i did that, all i see is praise... and all you would see is praise as well if you opened that topic and skimmed through the first couple of pages.
or, are you expecting people to click your link and read 25 pages of forum posts in order to hopefully get an idea of what you're talking about?
if so, that horrible interwebz forum etiquette.. try a new approach.
you quoted the same person over and over again
Officially became a member 2 weeks ago, but lurk around the forums quite often in fact. But for someone who calls themselves a regular even you have to admit there is a bit of "pot calling the kettle black" in these threads.
I believe we have officially ventured into the territory where neither one of us will concede or reach an agreement. Again I do enjoy my iphone X along with other various Apple products( I will not use anything else). My original post was simply pointing out the great lengths at which some went to praise and even justify the notch.
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sometimes.. yes.. but in reality, the vast majority of members aren't like that.. but yes, it only takes a smallish loud minority to make is seem this way.
idk, i don't really think it's fair to see a bunch of negative comments about Samsung one day.. then the next day, see a bunch of positive comments about Apple..
..then come to the conclusion of "pot calling kettle black"
because you're likely comparing two different groups of people as if they're the same people.. which is a mistake.
or-- if yesterday you saw techExpert69 say how stupid the curved glass on an S8 is... then today you saw iLurvAple say they love the edge-to-edge display on iPhone X..
..well, that's not hypocrisy..
it's two different people.
ok.
Definitely think the real X looks betterThe tale of two iPhone X. One with a notch, one without a notch.
Sorry you took this so personally, I responded to your post initially to point out the faulty logic in thinking flat tire complainers and notch haters were necessarily being hypocritical. I then pivoted to my own thoughts about the notch, including those who love it, don’t care, dislike and hate.
I did voice opinions about notch haters, and I can see how you’d think I was aiming my comments at you. I apologize for creating that confusion. I suppose I should have started a new response separate from my reply to you.
Nonsense. You simple round the corners (virtually) to match the curve of the bottom. The top 1/4" black bar is then virtually unnoticeable and a million times more proportional and balanced than how it looks now.
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There's no reason to mirror the black space at the top on the bottom. A total waste of space. Also, the mockups should show the time, network signal, etc. at the top in the corners.
I don't think it will reduce the appeal of iOS development. It's just that developers will have to go the "extra mile" to accommodate the iPhone X uniqueness and they may question whether it's worth the effort. Honestly, the ideal canvas (and where Apple initially started) is the iPad. It's a large, rectangular, uncompromised view which can be used in any orientation. The iPad bezels are a non-issue because of the total screen immersion.
We'll get there with the iPhone eventually.
Hasn't been an issue for me at all. It's true what has been said, that once you get used to it, it becomes invisible. Plus I also appreciate the fact that it saves screen space because the ears house the status bar. Other phones (except the essential) just run the bezel all the way across, wasting that space.
My main gripe is how long it's taking devs (I'm lookin at you Google) to make their apps iPhone X compatible, sucks going from an iPhone plus to a regular iPhone sized screen.
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I also never understood why the notch is a poor design compromise, ANY other phone out there (except maybe the essential and mi mix) have a top bezel. In most cases the X's top bezel is narrower than others. It's actually a good design because of the screen space saved by incorporating the status bar into the ears.
Now I won't argue with anyone that says it wasn't a good decision aesthetically, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Before I saw one in person I hated the notch, I thought they should have extended the bezel out to the sides in software, but kept the status bar in there. But now that I own one I suspect that Ive/Apple realized that the screen "seems" larger this way, even though it's not.
My main gripe is how long it's taking devs (I'm lookin at you Google) to make their apps iPhone X compatible, sucks going from an iPhone plus to a regular iPhone sized screen.
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I also never understood why the notch is a poor design compromise, ANY other phone out there (except maybe the essential and mi mix) have a top bezel. In most cases the X's top bezel is narrower than others. It's actually a good design because of the screen space saved by incorporating the status bar into the ears.
Now I won't argue with anyone that says it wasn't a good decision aesthetically, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Before I saw one in person I hated the notch, I thought they should have extended the bezel out to the sides in software, but kept the status bar in there. But now that I own one I suspect that Ive/Apple realized that the screen "seems" larger this way, even though it's not.
There's a big difference between accepting and liking. Nobody LIKES it... but they put up with it because there is no alternative choice. Ask yourself this... if the current iPhone X was sitting side by side with a new version that had no notch... how many notched ones do you think would sell? And don't kid yourself... the answer is Zero. Well... I take that back. Some people bought the Pontiac Aztek. But it would most likely be 100,000 to 1.
It depends. If "no notch" = top bezel then I'd choose the notch any day. If by "no notch" you mean all of the sensors and cameras necessary for biometric security were beneath the display, then of course. But I much prefer the notch to a bezel at the top that runs the width of the phone.
The notch is invisible in daily use. You just don’t look at that area. It’s a complete non-issue.
I shipped my X back. Wasn't worth the price or features over my 7plus. Its was literally just and overpriced stretched out iPhone 7 with some bumps in speed. Let me say this though, I am the biggest apple fanboy, but lately they've really been lagging behind new features like Samsung in the phone market(have you seen the new note?), Google in the software market (have you seen g suite?), and Amazon in the smart assistant/smart home market(Amazon show is where the future is at). Its just sad that they're so stuck in their ways that they refuse to take the lead on anything. Now granted thats today, maybe they'll surprise me and start to innovate again, but as it stands Apple is sadly behind the times desperately hanging by a thread. That thread I talk about is the hopes that they're design team will pull them out of the water with beautiful new products. That shipped has sailed 4 years ago. Everyone now has a Jony on their team making tech look beautiful. The new slates from Microsoft, and Galaxies from Samsung are in and of themselves beautiful. You can argue they took that from Apple, and in most cases they did, but thats no excuse for Apple to stop innovating in new tech. Gone are the days of Steve's Apple, I just hope someday, and that it is someday soon, that Tim's Apple stops worrying about political agendas and starts innovating once again. One can only hope.
That notch is a joke.
I really don’t see what you’re all complaining about. Watch video in non full screen mode.
The alternative would be to have a bezel.
Luckily you can emulate that by double tapping the image, or you can go full screen with a notch. Having the notch there gives you the choice.
Full screen you also lose part of the picture. Personally to me that is more annoying but no one seems to be mentioning that
That's the same with all smartphones since cinema aspect ratio is narrower than that of any smarthphone.
not following you...
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what I was meaning was, does the gloves give you fine motor control that you can type in an sms message for instance on the iPhone keyboard, if not what do the gloves allow you to do?
Apple remind me of diesel cars lately - Diesels were always strong and economical but dirty, they tried to fix this with the EGR valve, which became problematic and so a DPF filter was added to help, which became problematic, so an AdBlue system was added...
Apple wanted to get rid of the home button but wanted tactile feedback, so they put in a taptic engine, which is massive and is most likely the reason for removal of headphone jack (far more than any "Bluetooth is better" argument), so one problem solved, now they can go full screen... But the touch sensor doesn't yet work through the screen so complete home button removal problematic, FaceID added to solve that! So now we have full screen... except for a massive array of sensors/cameras forming a "notch".
It always seems to be solutions for things that weren't particularly problems in the first place and an endless cycle of patching them (then figuring out the marketing spin to make it for our benefit and how amazing Apple are).