Surely if you can figure out a way to do it, Apple can't stop you, which is a different argument to whether Apple makes it easy for you to do?
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Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney Criticizes Apple Over App Store Price Increases
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you an me have different opinion on what 'physically owned' means. Physically owning something implies to me that you can do with it as you wish, no restrictions, done within the confines of the law. Apple does not allow 'owners' of their devices to do that because they put restrictions in place to prevent you from doing what you want to do with your owned device. Therefore you do not 'physically own' your iphone or ipad, Apple does. They just let you think you do.
You need to put that question to the poster who originally posted that we 'physically owned' our Apple devices.
Legally, you physically own the device. Beyond that, you as a consumer are responsible for ensuring that the product meets your needs (this is why you usually have a return period to make sure the product does meet your needs). The product that is offered for sale is decided by the maker of that product. You as the consumer choose whether to buy it. The consumer does not get to decide what products are made and sold other than choosing to buy or not buy and trying to influence product development that way. It’s called capitalism!
If you want a phone where you can install any operating system you like, the solution is to not buy an iPhone. If enough people want the same thing, iPhone sales will fall and Apple will respond by changing the product. If not enough people want what you want, then I’m sorry but that’s just tough, you have to live with what the majority want.
What is with the fascination in this country about complaining about competition? This isn't the first time this guy cried foul over the App Store (and it certainly won't be the last). If you have a better idea, Tim, put up or shut up. Make your own store, slap it on a phone, and let's see how fast you take over.
Do you own your car? (Even if lease, buy or rent) Can you ride your car on the road without the catalytic converter?
So I guess you really can’t explain it and why why the original ruling threw out most of the complaints.Duckduckgo/Google it
If you don't have the time/knowhow to lookup basic terminology we are not going to have an adult fruitful conversation.
Good day.
Yes, the original reply was quite disingenuous. And some MR posters want to throw out stuff without really understanding.
And have a good day as well.
"Imagine if a landlord told their small business tenant they had to increase their prices without any say in the matter or anywhere else to go"
Isn't that literally what landlords do ALL the time?
Isn't that literally what landlords do ALL the time?
Again, though, that is software, not hardware. The device is hardware. I'm just correcting the common misunderstanding that the "device" = iOS.
This is the post of your's I am debating. You state in the post a person can 'do whatever they (you) want with their (your) physical device' and it is this that I am providing counter arguments too based on the reasons I have given which is the owner of the physical device is not allowed to or even given the facility to delete/remove/wipe ios from an iphone or ipad and replace it with an alternative OS because Apple prevents users from doing so ergo this restriction/prevention means the user does not physically own the device because they are being prevented from doing what ever they want with it.
It is a false fallacy to say to people that they own the physical device but then turn around and say 'but it comes with restrictions that prevent you from doing what you want with it'. A person either 100% own's their physical device (no restrictions, no preventions, no limitations) or they do not. There is no inbetween.
It's not the most clearly worded, but "their prices" is referring to the prices that the business charges its customers, not rent.
Making something extraordinary difficult is not the same as preventing. Apple prevents your from jailbreaking…and yet.
It's been a rumor for years now. It's not like the idea of that just suddenly came up.
Not sure what you're not understanding here. Software (what you're talking about) is NOT hardware (the actual metal, glass, screws, circuit boards, battery, etc.). Correct, you cannot modify, remove, or replace the software, and I'm not sure why the heck you'd want to anyway (just buy an Android OS phone or another phone that meets your needs).
You realize Epic Games already successfully operates a store for games on other platforms, right?
The infrastructure’s already there and working; Apple just won’t allow him to use it on iOS.
So I guess if someone steals the iPhone that's in my pocket right now, I'll call up Apple to let them know they need to file a police report 🤣
When someone buys an iPhone, they are essentially buying multiple items even though they may be sold together as one package. They are buying the physical device (or hardware) and they are buying licenses to use iOS and other per-installed software. What an owner can or can't do really depends on whether one is talking about the physical device or the OS/software.
The question/debate is whether or not it's “fair” for Apple to be able to restrict things like sideloading, alternative app stores, browser engines, etc. given their dominance in the mobile OS market in the U.S. This is a debate that clearly won't be settled here on this forum.
I am understanding you perfectly but you are not understanding me. The concept of being able to do what ever you want with the device that you own is the ability to remove the OS from the hardware. This is not a software issue, it's a hardware issue being the case that the hardware should be able to be seperated from the OS (software) . Why someone would want to is not the point here, the point here is that they should be able to do it but they can not which ultimately means their ability to fully own the device is limited. Basically it's limited to how ever Apple want it to be limited, ergo you do not fully own your own device.