If you don't like it, you're welcome to use a different phone like an Android. Apple isn't forcing you to use their phone.That's largely because Apple freezes out competition by restricting alternative app stores and sideloading on iOS.
If you don't like it, you're welcome to use a different phone like an Android. Apple isn't forcing you to use their phone.That's largely because Apple freezes out competition by restricting alternative app stores and sideloading on iOS.
I thought it was funny but I think defending Epic and their CEO Tim Crybaby is even funnierDo you guys honestly think you’re funny?
I’m definitely not as funny as your reply.Do you guys honestly think you’re funny?
question is who can exist with apple's walled garden. the app store and the developers are symbiotic, one doesn't exist without the other, the flip side of the coin is the app store wouldn't be where it is today without the developers.The developers wouldn't exist without the App Store. What are they selling without it? To who?
sure, if eu regulates apple's 30%, apple is welcome to not sell in europe right?If you don't like it, you're welcome to use a different phone like an Android. Apple isn't forcing you to use their phone.
Your landlord doesn’t dictate how much YOU charge your customers, not even the same realm.I’m not pro make a trillion dollar richer. But just his example.. Landlord raises prices without the renters having any say, literally all the time. Apple created the device, the software, cultivated the tools, and built the user base. Then these companies made billions building the apps off that structure.
They need to figure out a new strategy, or a new business model. Because this is looking sad.
Sure, but my credit card company certainly adjusts for currency fluctuations.Your landlord doesn’t dictate how much YOU charge your customers, not even the same realm.
Apple doesn’t tell developers that except for the lowest price point. Developers set the price and Apple marks it up, like any retailer.It does? You’re going to let your LANDLORD tell you what to sell your items for? BS 🙄
First sentence is correct, but I don't know what you mean when you say Apple "marks it up". Apple charges the price that the developers set.Apple doesn’t tell developers that except for the lowest price point. Developers set the price and Apple marks it up, like any retailer.
Why should anyone be able to freely make money from Apple's products? Short answer, they shouldn't.
If you don't like it, you're welcome to use a different phone like an Android. Apple isn't forcing you to use their phone.
Your landlord doesn’t dictate how much YOU charge your customers, not even the same realm.
Totally! I had one in mind, but feel free to pick. 😀So it would be one of those ”decide for yourself” which Tim can do that, or both. 👍
Whether it's fair or right is up to the courts and legislators.Sure, but that doesn’t mean Apple doesn't freeze out competition by restricting alternative app stores and sideloading on iOS. Just because there may be a mobile OS alternative (Android), doesn't necessarily make what Apple does fair or right. There were desktop OS alternatives to Windows in the 1990s but that didn't mean what Microsoft was doing regarding Windows restrictions/requirements was fair or right.
Question is who can exist with apple's walled garden. The app store and the developers are symbiotic, one doesn't exist without the other, the flip side of the coin is the app store wouldn't be where it is today without the developers.
Haha imagine that. Some people here would go *******!It sounds like Apple needs developers as much as developers need Apple. Mutually beneficial. An equal relationship.
So maybe the split should be an equal 50-50... 50% for developers and 50% for Apple. 🤣
And yet... the split for large developers is 70-30 but for most developers it's actually 85-15
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sure, go propose that to the developers, every single one of them will leave the app store in a instant and move elsewhere, apple gives a great platform, but no the only platform for developers to show their talents, saying apple should get equal is like saying office space should get 50% of company profit because some companies wouldn't be able to exist without it.It sounds like Apple needs developers as much as developers need Apple. Mutually beneficial. An equal relationship.
So maybe the split should be an equal 50-50... 50% for developers and 50% for Apple. 🤣
And yet... the split for large developers is 70-30 but for most developers it's actually 85-15
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So if developers are free to go elsewhere, where’s the antitrust?sure, go propose that to the developers, every single one of them will leave the app store in a instant and move elsewhere, apple gives a great platform, but no the only platform for developers to show their talents, saying apple should get equal is like saying office space should get 50% of company profit because some companies wouldn't be able to exist without it.
sure, go propose that to the developers, every single one of them will leave the app store in a instant and move elsewhere, apple gives a great platform, but not the only platform for developers to show their talents, saying apple should get equal is like saying office space should get 50% of company profit because some companies wouldn't be able to exist without it.
i think 15-20 is fair, then again i'm not the european union. so who knows. regardless, apple can comply with E.U or sell else where 😂Relax... no one is proposing that Apple gets 50%
It was just an exercise to make us think.
With that out of the way... is 15% or 30% too much?
What should the number be?
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walled garden, developers can go elsewhere its a bit of ultimatum that nobody wants.So if developers are free to go elsewhere, where’s the antitrust?
again, they weren't making 0 before, where do u even get that number.
Not happening.Laws can require it. When a company has a dominant position or monopoly power in a particular market, antitrust laws and regulations can require said company to ease restrictions, modify activities, etc. viewed as anticompetitive behavior. It's been that way for ages.
Why can't I install on my iPad/iPhone what I want?
Does Apple own my device or do I?
That's the fundamental issue. It's not about security; it's about Apple getting a piece of everyone's pie.
Where are they going? To android where the cheap ass owners don't pay for apps and buy free garbage instead?sure, go propose that to the developers, every single one of them will leave the app store in a instant and move elsewhere, apple gives a great platform, but no the only platform for developers to show their talents, saying apple should get equal is like saying office space should get 50% of company profit because some companies wouldn't be able to exist without it.