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The schadenfreude is strong here for sure, but I'm kind of tired of this trend of putting two things in one article and implying they're related.

They're embroiled in lawsuits. They laid people off. The article doesn't say one caused the other because there's no evidence of it. They haven't sold on iOS for years, and they've been in court for years. Unless they need a suddenly much larger budget for their long shot SCOTUS effort, this doesn't explain the sudden redundancy of 800 people.

It's bad form to put things next to each other trying to imply a relationship if you're not going to do the work of establishing one.

hundreds of thousands or more in legal fees
So, that explains letting go of one well trained software engineer... The other 799?
 
Be aware, Apple won 9 out of 10 and the one is third party purchase that Epic wanted to win which is quite critical to them.
 
epic was warned that they didn’t have much of a case, but Tim Sweeney went ahead anyways. Of course the CEO could’ve taken a pay cut and save those jobs, but guess he decided meh.

Exactly.... IMHO, these 800+ employees were sacrificed on the altar of Tim Sweeney's personal vendetta with Apple over having their store that works like it does.

If I was a stockholder with Epic and able to vote, I'd definitely vote for this guy's removal. Realistically, even if he got what he originally was after (getting to share content on the App Store without paying a cut), how much would he really stand to save vs the cost of this legal battle and lost sales in the meantime? It's just a stupid hill to pick to die on.
 
Agreed. This is why I don’t like public and big companies. C-suite employees will still get massive bonuses but their decisions are causing people to be fired/layoffs in bad economic times.
The number people who lose their job does not factor into whether the CEO is a success or not. Stock price. Earnings. Market cap. None of the incentives line up with the wellbeing of the work force.

Edit, hilarious... a mod removed part of this for being "political".... for talking about labor negotiations in a thread about corporate layoffs. Maybe the whole article should have been posted in the political section, then eh?
 
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This guy is a scumbag, it’s just a simple money grab. Greed. He wants to sell something in someone’s store and not kick back. Doing this for developers, bull ****.
Right! I’m going to go into my nearest Walmart pick an isle throw out whatever products are being sold there and put my product there instead. If Walmart says hey you have to pay for that shelf space im going to say f u Walmart! I don’t care about your overhead expenses to provide this wonderful platform to sell my stuff!….this whole Epic nonsense is absurd.
 
To be fair, there has been mass layoffs in the tech industry over the last year, with the gaming industry hit pretty hard.

While I am sure the legal issues have not helped Epic, they are not alone when it comes to layoffs.
Which mostly had to do with companies that overhired in the pandemic including hiring people they had no work for just to keep competition from hiring them (and most ending up still with net positive employment numbers 2019-2023) and have already mostly stabilized (see: https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/26/tech-layoffs-are-all-but-a-thing-of-the-past/)

There are always going to be layoffs in tech, hell, IBM basically does a "re-org" and layoff like every other year, but employment numbers are pretty stable in tech right now. I'll grant you that game companies are still laying off at large rates though (and will have more layoffs on the tech side if the game actors or writers strike - gotta make sure the money's available for the CEO's new yacht!).

That said epic's layoffs are pretty much purely a problem of their own making
 
Why are you framing that its do to Apple?

It’s due to their massive failure launching and running their online PC “app” store. They have lost hundreds of millions of dollars on it

What was wrong with the Epic "App" store? How did they screw it up so badly?
 
Apple should stop taking a cut from everything an app does for the user. Epic should be allowed to sell skins without Apple's cut. Apple's cut should come only from the original app and subscriptions. If Apple continues to take a cut for every little thing an app offers it will be hounded for monopolist behaviours, especially if market share goes up.
Then everyone makes their app free, but with an in-app add-on to make it functional.
 
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I've got a great idea that will save Epic! Why doesn't Epic Games charge 20 cents for each game install just like Unity was going to do! <sarcasm> :rolleyes:
 
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