They don’t allow side loading for the store. They allow the OS to sideload. If you use the Mac App Store, the only way to get Mac App Store apps is by using the Mac App Store. The likelihood of obtaining a malicious app via the Mac App Store is low because of how Apple runs it. It would be VERY difficult for a user to obtain a malicious app via the Mac App Store. It would be trivially easy for a user to obtain a malicious app NOT delivered by the Mac App Store.
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Epic Games Says Court 'Reached the Wrong Answer' and Made 'Multiple Legal Errors' in Apple Fight
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I would argue that Apple has caused long term consumer harm by removing choice in their selection of apps. For example, vaping apps are still not allowed because Apple doesn't like vaping. Same with emulators.
As for the 30%, I agree with your position except if the developer decides they want to host the app and other web services on their own infrastructure. In that case, they shouldn't be forced to host with Apple and pay them the 30%. That's the issue here, they can't make that choice.
I wish this were true, but Apple's review process is notoriously bad at missing malicious and fatally buggy apps. It's definitely better than nothing, but the fact is that power users on MacOS are free to do as they please. The same is not true on iOS.
I couldn’t care less about Fortnite, but y’all need to stop giving Apple a big sloppy. I am entirely in Epic’s corner on this, because despite their own selfish motivations (same as Apple), the end result would be a more open yet equally secure iOS.
And you can pound sand with your “switch to Android” baloney while you’re at it. Epic is making the right arguments.
I’ll never understand why people enjoy trying to deny others freedoms that would have no material impact on their own lives.
And you can pound sand with your “switch to Android” baloney while you’re at it. Epic is making the right arguments.
I’ll never understand why people enjoy trying to deny others freedoms that would have no material impact on their own lives.
Yes but people dont just have one gadget we have lots and you can just play it on another gadget thats how the world goes round and roundYou couldn't until like last week and only now through xCloud. They weren't getting any new players since nobody could download it, and they weren't getting microtransactions from Apple users since they can't be purchased any more. Of course there's always the option to unofficially sideload....but Apple doesn't like that.
Yes they are people have tos of gadgets where to play fortnight dont be naive, your apple check isn’t ready yet
But do they spend as much on other platforms compared to iOS?
Fortnite's iOS ban is costing Epic Games $26 million a month
Estimates suggest that Epic Games is losing up to $26 million every month in revenue whilst Fortnite remains banned from the App Store, revealing just how costly its spat with Apple could be.
www.imore.com
And that continues to be the choice for at least a year and maybe longer. I’m sure one could come up with a number of hypothetical harms. But I’m not a lawyer or a judge so I have no inkling how this might turn out.
Ok first that number is speculative and second I wouldn’t trust a site that is called imore haha and remember lots of other games are made with unreal engine which make epic games a healthy buckBut do they spend as much on other platforms compared to iOS?
Fortnite's iOS ban is costing Epic Games $26 million a month
Estimates suggest that Epic Games is losing up to $26 million every month in revenue whilst Fortnite remains banned from the App Store, revealing just how costly its spat with Apple could be.
While this is true and the same argument that Apple is using (if you don't like it, switch to Android), I just don't think it holds water. I can indeed go to another grocery store if my usual one tells me I am not allowed to shop there, but if I am doing nothing wrong compared to another customer that they allow, that's still discrimination and is still illegal.
Yes well I think you answered your self but I will add to your answer anyway because I’m free right now, ok look Apple is not going to be able to hold the 30% for ever and you know that and epic games is fighting for that I don’t know why would you think a trillion dollar company need you as a lawyer for them, stop for a while let that sink in and then answer me
I saw your responses to others, not sure why I bothered to respond to you. That doesn't even remotely related to what I was saying. Let that sink in and then please don't answer me.
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Equating macOS security to iOS security is a false equivalence. Furthermore, fixing Mac malware problems is considerably easier than would be fixing iOS malware, due to the UI. I really don't want to mess with more devices. It's great that the iPhone works so much like an appliance.
Epic is completely on-point here. I hope they win and we can finally have fair competition on Apple devices.
macOS malware is much less likely if you stick to the official App Store. Same is true with iOS. Conversely, malware on iOS is actually still possible in the official App Store. Either way, it really wouldn't change that much if they enabled sideloading. It would just allow power users to use their devices that they paid for the way they want to.
Nevertheless, I can use a search engine to find an app that would exploit macOS in minutes. To do the same via the Mac App Store would take considerably longer and that’s assuming that it’s even possible to find (why would they try to distribute malware via the Mac App Store when just targeting a user’s computer is SO much easier AND can’t be shut down by Apple)?
Right now, a malicious actor in a call center is unable to get root control of an iPhone by talking a user through lowering the security of their phone. If there’s a process in place by which the security of an iPhone CAN be reduced to install malicious code that would give them root control, those call centers will have scripts ready on the day it’s available and a massive campaign against iPhone users will commence.
I wouldn’t call that “not changing much”.
So Epic is an expert on how Apple should run their business and how courts work. They really are Epic!
This is true but the bigger the hurdles someone would have to jump through, the less likely that potential target person would be willing to jump through them. Make me connect my phone to my computer. Make me accept big red disclaimers. Hell, even make me pay a one time fee or something. Anything that makes the user stop and read what they are doing. Just because something might be detrimental to some users doesn't mean it should be prevented for all in the name of saving the old people from themselves. There are ways to make it reasonably safe.