Is there a section of US Anit-Trust law that gives a CPU performance threshold for devices suitable for protection?
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Epic Games Sought Side Deal for Fortnite Prior to Lawsuit, Apple Says in Court Filing [Updated]
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Is there a section of US Anit-Trust law that gives a CPU performance threshold for devices suitable for protection?
Reading the comments on the link the op provided literally proves the issues regarding an open phone ecosystem verses a closed one such as apples. Please noticed I said phone and not computer.Wow. Sweeney's emails are ... brazen. I have no problems with developers protesting high fees (and I think 30% is certainly high). But Sweeney effectively demands that Apple demolish the entire app store model, so Epic can make more money. But as a user I don't want fragmented app stores, because that would eventually force me to obtain some apps from less trustworthy 3rd party stores with less thorough or no privacy and security policies. The better protection against malware and privacy violations by apps is one of the main reasons why I prefer iOS over Android. I'm also not sure that this would be in the interest of developers. Not only would their apps be harder to find on 3rd party stores, but market research also consistently shows that iOS users spend more money on apps than Android users (probably in part because piracy is far less of a problem than on Android).
BTW, as an example of how "diligently" Epic would "protect device security, customer privacy, and a high-quality user experience" when installing apps outside of the app store, check this out:
Fortnite’s Android vulnerability leads to Google/Epic Games spat
Fortnite on Samsung phones was vulnerable to a man-in-the-disk attack.arstechnica.com
Speak for yourself. There are many of us here who believe they could damage iOS to the point of no return.
Fortnite on mobile was already seeing a drop in players. It's only 1/7th of the Fortnite income and the only reason they had the balls to do this. As stated by many, the consoles are taking 30% from Epic and the don't have the balls to try it with them.
Fortnite was not going to sell any extra iDevices. The numbers were going down and play the game for a while and you will see why it's actual the worst method to play this game. Switch is a lot better. PC rulez
Not exactly. He threw that in for P.R., but if you read the entire letter he was more than happy to accept a deal just for Epic even if nobody else got the deal.
He also talked about “android” due to a cut and paste error, so I wouldn’t put a lot of value in anything he said in this lawyer-written letter.
Also think of all the libraries iOS offers to developers for free and only if you publish a product and start making money from it will they charge you. Meanwhile in the past you can to license and graphics engine, network libraries, sound libraries etc. And if anyone thinks the $99 yearly fee, covers those cost then you are clueless. Than won't cover the cost of the reviewers. But sure let everyone run free on the platform and expect Apple to continue offering these items for free.
Epic only cares for itself but using for all developers as shield. Must be removed from App Store and Play Store in it's entirety.
Epic has already maxed out on mobile user and the numbers were going down. It's only a 1/7th of the Fortnite revenue and a kid that purchased a phone for Fortnite would not buy another any time soon. In fact many went from Phone to Console. The kids are playing fortnite for now and couldn't care less. When it shutdowns (either Apple kills it or Epic updates make it incompatible) they will get upset but those will quickly go for the console as they are cheaper.
Also remember that this letter was sent in anticipation of launching a suit, so they fully expected it to be discoverable and made public. Which makes it all the more mind numbing that they didn't proof read it...
Android! Even Larry Page stated that he wished Google would have locked Android up.
Yep. It was certainly written by a lawyer, too.
If you read the documents Epic offered nothing, their version of the "side deal" was let us run our own App Store with our own payment system and you get crap. Apple/Amazon both gain something out of the deal.
2 reasons. They currently have an app (Fortnite) still out there violating the terms. Also the two companies have entered into a lawsuit. Unless there is some agreements they usually shutoff all services and communications between each other.
Oh you said upstart that is going to hurt some of these guys feelings. While they have been around for quite awhile they were very pompous about licensing their tech to others unless they opened their bankbooks. It allowed smaller engines to creep in and hit them on all fronts. Unity, Source and Crysis. Plus those have opened it up for some Open Source engines as well.
I understand. To each his own, but this is not about iPhones only (and you might carry around your phone a bit more in normal times, but your computer does not have any less confidential info I am sure and the end of the world has not come to be).
And yes, it is 100% related to the software limitations which in the past were because the HW was limited. Now that is not the case, but we all need to be protected by BIG BORTHER because we are all dumb and he knows better.
(If the same thing came out of Micro$oft everybody here would be torching their campus).
To me this is about the locking and restricting a piece of hardware artificially with the excuse of protection.
If that were really the case iPadOS or iPhoneOS could easily deploy a "developer mode" with which you could code on the device, attach USB devices, use emulators, etc. AND the average user that did not enable that mode would still be "protected" as they are now if they so chose.
The "protection" piece is complete BS to me.
I just read the below quote:
Apple associate general counsel Douglas Vetter in mid-July. “We cannot be confident that Epic or any developer would uphold the same rigorous standards of privacy, security, and content as Apple"
Really? Who set Apple as the gold standard but Apple itself? I am sure they are MUCH BETTER than Epic or others, but the point is, it is at their SOLE DISCRETION, and we need to take their word at FACE VALUE....right? Like Google's "don't be evil"...
Breaking the App Store would be a good thing for us all. Epic is just noise. Could not care less about them.
I was replying to this:
I have no idea what the CPU performance has to do with any part of this issue. Once Apple started using ARM instructions in a Mac everybody's heads seemed to explode... Computers and phones are the same, but not the same, and everything suddenly changed, but it didn't... It's like they've looked at a wireframe of a cube for the first time and realized they can make themselves see it go either into or out of the page...
The type of user base (if the buy apps or just steal them) will not come into question. LOL!!! With those definitions then you can define just about anyone as a monopoly.
It's their platform. They built it from the ground up. They haven't shown evidence that they have prevented developers from leaving their platform. Or preventing new platforms. Why won't Epic and their daddy Tencent get together and build a phone.
It's as if my kid suddenly started making the rules around here.
Remember that while Apple has not ever used it they have a kill switch for the app.
I guess you missed the point. The Apple lock of the App Store is justified in "protection", as much of iOS limitations are justified on HW PAST limitations which are no longer true.
Why can't a developer code on an iPad? Why it is not so easy for deceloper to connect other USB devices? Too hard to have a "developer mode"
Epic is over-reaching, greedy, lying and untrue. Yes. No discussion. But opening the App Sore could be a side benefit to everybody.
That is all he asked for. Not a reduction but give me full access so I can run my store. He's like the Kayne West of gaming.