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Epic Games 'Spent Months' Preparing Lawsuit Against Apple, Codenamed 'Project Liberty'
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On what grounds? Because you want it? Guess what, if you want side loading there are hundreds of phones out there that allow that, go buy one. No one is stopping you. It’s not an iPhone? Too bad. Just because you WANT something doesn’t mean others should be forced to give it to you.
You could make the argument that both are the consumer. I can buy a car with the intention to crash it. I can buy an iPhone with the intent to blend it. Why can't I buy a company with the intent to sink it?
But but but it isn't the same!
- In one case (the bad bad case), Apple is charging Epic 30 tricking percent!!!!
- In the other case (the good god case), Epic is charging their developers 30%.
people are able to sideload currently — it’s just annoying. sideloading wouldn’t allow apps to have root access to your device or your data or anything like that. you’ll still need to grant permissions to apps to access your photos, contacts, etc.
correct me if i’m wrong, but sideloading ≠ alternate app stores.
each app would need to be installed manually via downloadable .ipa
i think if apple were to allow this, Epic would back down. they would release fortnite in the app store without Epic Pay, and then release a separate sideload-able version with it.
This is great for Apple…it continues to show Epic’s premeditation in avoiding it’s contractual obligations.
Epic’s error is they’ve narrowed down the market too small.
You can buy their games on IOS, android, PC, Xbox, playstation, Nintendo etc.
iOS is apples product. They have every right to put whatever software on it they want. And if you don’t like it then buy an android phone.
You can buy their games on IOS, android, PC, Xbox, playstation, Nintendo etc.
iOS is apples product. They have every right to put whatever software on it they want. And if you don’t like it then buy an android phone.
Epic would probably not put it back in the App Store because if it gets sideloaded they can retain 100% of the money instead of being subject to a 30% cut. Add to it the amount of App Stores and sideloading that would need to be done for apps so they can not be in the App Store and subject to the 30% cut. It will become the Wild West and users will get annoyed they have to go to another App Store or website to get the app they want. No one wants to keep track of that...I don't want to keep track of what streaming service has whatever movie or TV show I may be interested in and it is hard to keep things straight. Next we will have Epic Games Store, Origin, EA launcher, Bethesda Launcher, Xbox Store, Playstation Store, and all of these other ones...not gonna be a good time.
As well, sideloading is possible, but it will super easy if this gets implemented. What is to stop someone from making an ipa that could be installed that is malicious?
Exactly, this is about EPIC not wanting to share the money while still having access to Apple's customer base. Make no mistake, when a company says it's not about the money, it's about the money.
Sure Apple wants to make as much money as they can; but they also changed the dynamics or developers from getting maybe 30 cents on the dollar to 70; plus easy access and cheap to a huge customer base, something that would have been very expensive before the app store.
What? And give up money, think of the CEO's children.
You can, you just can't use naked shorts or as part of a coordinated scheme to rig the market.
I know gaming is a big thing for some people. But when all is said and done they make video games, if epic went out of business right now, it would suck just because people would lose their jobs, that's about it. Nothing else
u can do all that on android, heard it's really awesome u can install emulators and all that awesome fun stuff on your phone, so it can continually crash and suffer massive battery drain, but as long as u can tweak settings that's all that counts... it must be so worth it.
Epic already won a bit, they got Apple to reduce Dev fees for projects under a million revenue I believe. This is a fight worth doing
Hahahaha
They called it Project Liberty.
Epic is owned by China’s biggest spyware corporation.
They called it Project Liberty.
Epic is owned by China’s biggest spyware corporation.
If Apple opens the Appstore I will stop using smartphones. We can barely trust on apps in a controlled App Store, imagine in an open one in which any untrustworthy developer can put some scam app to get our money or sell our data.
It’s funny to see all of this coming from Epic and its Fornite business model based mainly on lurking parents money through their addicted kids. 👏
It’s funny to see all of this coming from Epic and its Fornite business model based mainly on lurking parents money through their addicted kids. 👏
Couldn’t Epic have launched their lawsuit while still adhering to the rules? I don’t think being kicked off is the only actionable means to launch/plead their case.
Exactly, as is EPIC. Both will act in their own best interests and spin the story to best present their position.
Physical product purchases are not subject to the 30% fee so its a null argument. Although it will probably require a separate payment portal. However if their idea is some kind of vbucks to dollars currency exchange that could get messy real fast.
Sure they could, but then they would not have had hoards of kids up in arms about the loss of their favourite game from their idevice.
And if side loading gets you hacked and your bank or credit card information stolen are you fine being on your own?