It’s not about removing iOS for said companies it’s the business practices involved that’s the issue for some
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Epic Games Submits Fortnite to U.S. App Store
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If said company is not willing to negotiate with said company then they are within their rights to take them to court to get better terms now you might not like that however sometimes that’s what people need to do.
As a consequence of that things that are done behind closed doors are getting brought into the light
well HarmonyOS (Huawei) is a third alternative and is growing with a current 4% market share. Same with HyperOS (Xiaomi) because Chinese smartphone manufacturers cant continue to use Android after 2025.
And google is in the works it seems to replace AndroidOS with Fuchsia.
so not fully accurate
that is going to get drowned out by exactly what I’ve said it’s already getting framed that wayand 99.9999% of devs are adhering to the rules and releasing apps and making money.
that's an even bigger message
That because a company challenged Apple then that sends a warning to every developer out there if you dare challenge us then we will crush you.
This is exactly the way Spotify is framing it in the EU and it’s exactly the same in how it will get framed in the USA
That is why epic will be back on the USA iOS App Store because it will then shine a light on it
In Asia not the west there is a big difference because huawei is not allowed to compete in the west even though they have about
1 billion users so if they where allowed to compete then they would have apps on it because of how many customers it has plus the hardware is actually pretty good
That is why the Chinese market is tuff for Apple and why google is not number one in search in china because they are practically banned
So unless you’re saying that a communist country is the only way for 3 mobile OS’s then that kind of proves my point.
I am pretty sure that if Tim Sweeney tried the same stunt with Nintendo or Sony, Fortnite would be summarily booted from the switch and PlayStation app stores as well.
Besides, I am not sure what sort of message you want Apple to send by allowing Fortnite back into the App Store. That it’s okay to break the rules? Apple doesn’t have the rights to enforce the rules on their own platform?
I say it again. Just because Apple loses doesn’t mean Epic wins.
There is a difference between challenging Apple (what Spotify is doing) and actively breaking contractual agreements and defrauding Apple, then suing them (what Epic did).
Anyone looking objectively at the situation can understand that.
Well in Europe they are growing in share.
Many times a new option enters because the market leader either makes a mistake or is caught doing some shady things that is stoped.
And this new OS alternatives are largely a new thing so hasn’t developed fully yet
He’s not going to challenge the console makers because of what I’ve said based on how they sell their hardware then that is different now that is what he has said.
Like 71 million ps5 units since 2020 and the next generation is coming out about 2027 I believe that’s why.
Because in a way it strengthens Apple’s case by accepting them back on the USA iOS App Store that’s why because it removes what I said and it strengthens there argument in terms of money
Now you might be right in that both companies took different approaches
However both companies are actually saying more or less the exact same things
That is why he’s confident about getting back on the USA ios App Store and that is what they will get accused of next and as a company they don’t want that
That’s not the point I was making.
What I am saying is that if Tim Sweeney was found to have broken any rules of the switch platform, Fortnite would likely end up being removed and I doubt there would have been any controversy.
I would like to see Apple continue to block Epic from the iOS App Store. If Tim Sweeney is indeed as altruistic as he makes himself out to be, then let him walk the talk. Allow developers to eschew the 30% cut, while continuing to stay away from iOS and forswear any future profits from said platform.
Let him play the role of the tragic hero who has no place in this new world order that he helped usher in, if “winning” matters that much to him.
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Huawei is banned in parts of Europe and the USA so the market share won’t increase that much in Europe (because apparently they are shady)
Well… Fortnite?
A proper Adblocking function.
Another browser that isn’t WebKit.
Older version of games/ apps that is no longer compatible with iOS
Like TapTap revenge
Or any other game/app that happens to not be allowed in the iOS AppStore.
Assuming you think iPhone hardware is the best hardware.
Or the most simple, because you want to.
He’s not challenging console makers because he literally can’t afford to lose their business the way he lost Apple’s. That’s the only reason. Everything else is just an after-the-fact retconning Sweeney invented to justify his hypocrisy.
They’re saying the same thing, sure. But one was kicked out and one wasn’t - not because they’re challenging Apple, but because of actions. And fair-minded people see that.
I don’t trust anything Sweeney at face value, and I don’t think he’s confident at all. He’s trying to will it into existence, but if Apple had told him he’d be let back on he’d absolutely have said so. The fact that he hasn’t says everything i need to know.
But he wouldn’t challenge the console makers because is that not where most of his Fortnite income comes from?
Hey listen Apple are well within their rights to not allow them back on however it’s very unlikely that will be the case as I’ve said it’s getting setup that way by the language that’s getting used previously
We will see.
As I have said numerous times before - one bets against Apple to their own detriment.
I’ve just said that he wouldn’t do that to console makers because Fortnite only had 7% market share on iOS so that is why he did it.
The difference is one is in the EU and the other is America that is why it’s too totally different approaches
Well he just submitted on the 9th so not including the weekend then by most reports by the middle of next week
We’ll see what happens. I’ll happily come back here and eat crow if I’m wrong!
Well if that’s your opinion & most on here
Then that is also another reason why they will be back on
Because not only will it remove what I said
It will also remove the zero commission on payment links and then epic will be forced to comply or leave because the case would get thrown out if they challenged it again
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There definitely will be some servings of crow pie. There will either be winners, losers and/or both.
there is only one country in the world with
Three mobile OS’s and no where else in the world
Now why do you think that is
Microsoft had a decade long head start against Apple and Google. And their low market share was because Microsoft tried to force Windows onto a mobile device instead of using their considerable capabilities to be inventive. As a result, the market rejected Windows Mobile/CE and chose iOS which competed by providing a 10X better user experience. Google smartly copied iOS to give the market what it preferred and succeeded along with Apple. Microsoft on the other hand was tone deaf and blind and kept presenting the same tired and clearly rejected options and arguments over and over and failed.
Well that’s not what happened in the 2010’s because they launched smartphones
With a fully formed experience that people bought however they couldn’t get developers to make apps for it because of low market share because I sold them at the time called the Lumia phones
They just couldn’t get the apps for it and that’s why it ultimately failed
Nothing to do with design or how the OS was