This is exactly how I see this but some ppl cant see why Epic is wrong in thisBy Epic’s logic I could go into Wal-mart and buy some chocolate but pay the manufacturer directly and walk away with the product from Walmart.
This is exactly how I see this but some ppl cant see why Epic is wrong in thisBy Epic’s logic I could go into Wal-mart and buy some chocolate but pay the manufacturer directly and walk away with the product from Walmart.
Hopefully never... I praying Apple goes ahead and terminates all their developer accounts!So Fortnite back on the AppStore when?
Yep, I totally agree.To any iOS Devs reading, if you require I use an outside payment system for your app then I will not be purchasing.
buy more APPL lolStock is crashing.![]()
That's a problem of Apple's own making. If they didn't restrict app installations to their own store, this wouldn't be an issue in the first place. Your analogy might make sense if Walmart, because of their own actions, was the only place I could buy chocolate. I don't have to shop at Walmart to buy chocolate. But if I want an app on my phone, Apple forces me and the developer to go through them.By Epic’s logic I could go into Wal-mart and buy some chocolate but pay the manufacturer directly and walk away with the product from Walmart.
But doesn’t that make it unfair for smaller search engines, and therefore, making it anti-competitive?Won't happen. Default setting goes to the highest bidder. Nobody is being locked out; you want to be the default search engine? pay more than Google does.
Difference from this case is Apple wasn't letting anyone be a payment processor, at any price.
That’s not their argument at all. Imagine if Walmart told HP that, in order to sell their printers at Walmart, that consumers could only get refill cartridges from Walmart. HP can’t even include mention on or in the packaging that you can buy the refill cartridges from HP’s own website. Walmart is entitled to its share of the initial purchase, but it does not get to strong-arm HP into shares of future consumable sales.By Epic’s logic I could go into Wal-mart and buy some chocolate but pay the manufacturer directly and walk away with the product from Walmart.
Yeah... Kind of what I assumed. Just looking for some "hope."No.
Tim tweeted Fortnite will not return until they get what they want. Which they won't. So its dead.
You obviously didn’t read Epic’s original complaint. They had far reaching allegations, including those that Apple is an illegal monopoly. The Judge declared all those as ********, only ruling in favor of Epic on the payment issue. Next time anyone accuses Apple of being monopolistic, they can point to this ruling and say, ”No, we’re not.” That is a big win for Apple.Apple publicly called this a huge win and Epic is appealing.
Kinda shows who the winner is...
Let me rephrase that for you. A bunch of stupid people around here who think when they buy an AppleTV from Walmart, go home, and subscribe to AppleTV+ that Walmart must be entitled to 30% of the proceeds because they initiated the sale with the customer, while providing none of the service or content creation/distribution that the recurring subscription fee covers.
Pretty sure Apple got paid here. And not deemed a monopoly. No third party store either.Common sense decision by judge.
But there are far too many Stockholm syndrome posters here trying to defend Apple.
Wow this is a blow for Apple.
I wonder what Steve Jobs would do - would he buy Epic, then fire everyone, and then close the business? That lad had some spite to him!
Ha. "Crashing." Hurry and sell off all your shares!!Stock is crashing.![]()
Apple provides the same service to everyone for $99, even to apps that can't earn them nothing (open sourced, ads driven, non-profit, selling physical goods, "special cases" like Netflix, Spotify, etc).Let me rephrase it for you.
You think Apple should provide a service to Epic, who pays $99 a year, to collect tens (hundreds) of millions of dollars and to pay Apple nothing...but $99 a year.
Apple would lose their customers over to Android since their is no reason to overpay anymore for their hardware if they kill privacy on their devices.Apple can easily make up any loss of revenue by selling user data. You're almost there, Apple -- just do it! It's a like an untapped goldmine. Monetize anything and everything.
Epic would appear to possibly be a bit of a shield breaker and sacrificial lamb. They may or may not get their dev account back, but all other developers will benefit from this ruling.They (Epic) are choosing not to back on iOS devices until they get what they want and Apple can now legally terminate them at any moment.
I'm sorry, what did they get?
We'll see how that sentiment holds when there are discounts for going through cheaper third-party payment processors. And if you're using a credit card for online payments like any intelligent person would be, there's no risk to you anyway. It's the bank's money, not yours in the rare event something does go sideways.Many don't appreciate this sentiment.
When having had enough problems with other payment systems, some decide to limit purchases to places that allow certain trustworthy systems. My father is becoming adamant about using only Apple-based payment services, foregoing purchases that don't go thru either Apple Store, Pay, or Card. I can't blame him, and am inclining that way too.
It's not a malicious sentiment, it's a consequential sentiment. Yeah I'll pay a bit more to know the payment won't get screwed up.