And you keep going on about the Smartphone market rather than the iOS market. What tablet options are there out there?
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Epic vs. Apple Takes a Twist As 35 US States and Department of Justice Weigh in to Back 'Fortnite' Maker
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That would also appear to be just iOS and Android.
Tablet Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
This graph shows the market share of tablet operating systems worldwide based on over 5 billion monthly page views.
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True but in the mobile space the numbers are:
Android 70.01% iOS 29.24% Samsung 0.43% KaiOS 0.13% Unknown 0.12% Nokia Unknown 0.02%
While in the tablet space they are this:
iOS 59.06% Android 40.84% Windows 0.06% Linux 0.03% BlackBerry OS 0.01% Unknown 0%
"While the Court finds that Apple enjoys considerable market share of over 55% and extraordinarily high profit margins, these factors alone do not show antitrust conduct. Success is not illegal. The final trial record did not include evidence of other critical factors, such as barriers to entry and conduct decreasing output or decreasing innovation in the relevant market." Case 4:20-cv-05640-YGR Document 812 Filed 09/10/21 page 1.
As I said before the only thing the Judge could find to use was California's vague 'if you come close we can act if you actually did it' which Hoeg (and I imagine anyone who thinks that through will agree) has serious issues with. The fact the Ninth Court allowed Apple's injunction on that to go through show they had issues with it too. Given Apple won on every Federal point it is insanely unlikely the Ninth Court will give Epic the win as the case is now an all or nothing and if anything the AGs putting their two cents in could backfire badly and the Ninth Circuit get angry enough to come down on Apple's side in no under certain terms.
But that isn’t the same.
Just means (IMO) that software I buy there can be used on all platforms. Not that it is the only source.
This conflicts with what they said on the other page. This says they claim to report internet trends of mobile market share, not mobile market share. They are potentially overlapping but not exclusively. I have five android devices in view right now, and they are all task-specific devices. They are actively used, but they don't surf the web. I bet there are a lot of android devices like that. The dedicated VR headsets, music players, home automation devices, instrument panels, etc., would never show up on this list because they are unlikely to come in contact with their tracking.
None of that has anything to do with you trying to apply the judge’s monopoly statement to a far larger market than she had defined. Let’s revisit the comment that led to this multipost exchange.
At best your statement was incomplete and should have said “No Apple is not a monopoly in digital mobile gaming transactions. Deal with it.”
Yeah, I already responded to this when you posted it last time. You know what's angry and childish? Posting a one-liner disagreeing (with no counterpoint or evidence or anything) and then ending it with a bunch of eye-roll emojis. Which is apparently your. entire. post. history. I counted 22 eye-roll emojis on the first page, just out of curiosity. And then every subsequent page is just the same thing, over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Legitimately sad, if you could keep me out of whatever's going on over there I'd really appreciate it
Exactly where they should be. And people should sue them for breaking the law or report them to consumer protection agencies that I assume you have in USA
Indeed a handful, the majority despise it as a draconian store hence why it’s still mostly dead even tho many are interested, it’s just too limited
One problem there chief, you can’t do it on the iOS device. You can do this on the Xbox console in your living room. What you showed is just the Xcode SDK running on a computer.
You can install a Nintendo, Amiga, DOs etc emulators to play some SEGA games you inject or other random programs directly on the hardware independently from your computer
Yes very interesting, and yet here we are with now 35 states who are against apple and EU outside of America jurisdiction with other laws doing the same.
My proposal would still satisfy all conditions as apple is the centralized authority for verified apps, allowing the apps to be distributed on multiple places still allows apple to control the safety as no unsafe apps could be downloaded without apples verification
I find it l disappointing that so many who use the “not a monopoly because of case…” fail to read and comprehend this.
Thanks for putting it in B&W for their perusal.
Well you still need cydia impactor, eventually the only “official” tool needed for proper side loading, unfortunately developers don’t get payed this way as no payment solution exist
Technically WINE is using copyrighted code Microsoft invented without a license, Microsoft have just left them alone.
Still an important thing proving my point you can’t just “move” as you can with a steam game or GoG
No the thing stopping it is the lack of drivers and the ability to purchase a windows ARM license currently. And not a relevant point.
It would be great if you read your own links
And perhaps it will be a thing in the future but not today as the binaries and APIs aren’t compatible.
This is not equivalent to shifting from one windows store to another.
One is on the same platform while the other is completely different
"Normal usage is definitely legal as all Wine does is to replicate the Windows API/ABI without using any of Microsoft's code and this has a long history of being legal". In fact WINE has very strict Clean Room Guidelines. CodeWeavers follows this same process and if there was any Microsoft code there in that commercial product it would have been a Gofzilla vs Bambi moment.
Probably considering hardware sales are dropping as they increase the price so they likely look to diversify their revenue streams
Well there are android phones that are locked down. And I would say android is far inferior in many ways. I did not choose it for being locked down. And have been jailbreaking since the iPhone 3G to escape this cage to improve the functionality of MY phone.
Well iPhones will still have greater integration, sleeker UI, smarter menues, better support and quality than any android phone.
Well it’s because it will still be closed if you choose it. Android is open because you can literally buy any android version from multiple manufacturers with different open or closeness of the system, but still all support the same applications and gadgets.
Presents cydia impactor, making iOS open, with only the problem of no way to purchase apps legitimately and pay developers.
Well iOS is only closed. Android have options that are closed or open that you can’t open up without hacking it.
Well we are many who choose iOS for different reasons than the lack of freedom
Because we like the OS and the hardware more than android. We just happen to want more freedoms and jailbreak our devices for it.
How about we try and change iOS to become better? You might disagree but we think iOS would be better with more options.
Your market numbers are incorrect. They might be reflecting worldwide shares but those are irrelevant for US courts.
The thinks the clean room protocol is just a way to protect themselves from as much legal liability, but they don’t know if they are running reverse engineered code simply because they can’t look at windows source code to verify it.
A jury convicted Google because of rangeCheck, so it’s more likely Microsoft doesn’t find it worth the money to waste on a target that probably can’t pay anyway.
I’ve been saying that the judge did not rule them to not be a monopoly despite the insistence of certain people here.
What’s your point exactly? Doesn't change a single thing I've said. I've got nothing further to say you, stop with the anger ????
Hopefully the appeals goes apples way and the pending legislation dies. I’m a big believer in vote with your dollars and hope this is where it is heading.
I'll say it again, my point was that if you want to see the anger and childishness you're accusing me of, read all 25 pages of your post history. You can't make this up, almost every single post for 25 pages:
"I disagree with you and submit no counterpoint or evidence ????"
You're right that this doesn't change a single thing that you've said, because you didn't say anything. It was nothing and it's still nothing. I already asked you to please leave me out of whatever makes you act this way
Well I’m also a great believer of this. Sometimes democracy also work
Apple’s Strategy is simple Delay and dodge the important questions why else did tim cook avoid alot of questions by YGR during the trial, i also know this, Cook won’t hesitate to put epic up before the antitrust board as well, for slandering apple on twitter so much as a company and person, that could be another suit, you cant tell me they wouldn’t easily make a case of slander know this sideloading isnt even in the lawsuit just the payment things also, tim sweeney didn’t agree he should’ve never hit sign up or put fortnite on ios what he did (concealing code) was a dirty move and emreally isnt being held accountable with everyone looking at apple
Ok bro but look at tim sweeeney if he never truly agreed he could’ve never hit sign up or put his app on the stor he didnt have to lie and secretly conceal code he also didnt have to enable his hotfix either sweeney isnt being held accountable but apple is tue bully for not giving everyone a free pass?
Not only this new legislation wouldnt be fair to the case already existing
No gatekeeper automatically shuts down code not already viewed by apple and checks it for malicious software and is a requirement that cant be deleted it also prevents the app from ever running again