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Good call by Australia. Don't know why Epic is spreading themselves thin by starting fights all over the world at the same time. They really are screwing this up Epically (Not that I want them to succeed)

They supposedly prepped 2 years for this but maybe they should have given it another 2 years if this mess is what the result is.
 
I hope Epic does win somewhere and Apple does make some changes to their App Store. I remember a time where apps like Kindle, ComiXology and others had their stores built in the apps until Apple changed the rules to pay up or remove the feature.

iOS devices should be open like Macs.
As far as Kindle, you still can only buy books on a Kindle, or through a convoluted process from the app on a computer (MacOS) You and't buy books on the regular pages of Amaon.com
 
This just shows that Australia is under USA control and has nothing to say, regardless of pro Epic or con Epic.
Sad for Australian people, that Australia counts on decisions made in the US.
I wonder if you really believe the above to be the case, given much of the anti-Apple sentiment in various countries for different things.
 
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Why would an American judge bother to make a ruling that’s not based on American law nor in American jurisdiction? If I were the US judge, I’d say do your own job, I’m busy with my own.
This is a pretty common way of dealing with the concept of lis alibi pendens. Most jurisdictions extend the courtesy to wait until the foreign court has done it’s thing, and yes, sometimes they’ll expect that the other court (also) applies their own laws if both would have a claim for jurisdiction.

These kind of courtesies and expectations are often based on international treaties. The logic here is that it’s better than to just go ahead with the case and end up with two conflicting outcomes on the same matter.
Two conflicting outcomes could cause a heap of issues, since (depending on the jurisdictions, the laws and whatever treaties there are between the two) there a less than 0 chance that both court decisions can be executed.

An example of the practical consequences would be: one order saying Apple has to pay Epic $1M, the other that Epic has to pay Apple $1M, both refusing to follow the other’s order (and having to start a case about that) or worse, Apple going to Epic’s bank and seizing the $1M while Epic goes to Apple’s bank to seize $1M.
 
This Epic lawsuit seems ridiculous. Can't Epic just require users to have an online account that is replenished via a website (or automatically) and when a user wants to buy a virtual widget the account is debited virtually? Isn't this essentially how Netflix and Amazon do business.
 
I hope Epic does win somewhere and Apple does make some changes to their App Store. I remember a time where apps like Kindle, ComiXology and others had their stores built in the apps until Apple changed the rules to pay up or remove the feature.

iOS devices should be open like Macs.
I hope Epic loses because I remember a time when developers/companies did not try to throw their weight around and demand they be treated like gods and not pay for anything.
 
I haven't followed this since the initial news broke out.. I'm just curious whether all this is worthwhile, had all Fortnite gamers leaving iOS and Mac OS for Android, Windows, etc. in order to continue to pay to play the game since the feud began? Are they enjoying some significantly higher margins and net profits today?
 
Their second object of hate is Steam while refusing to make their app even 25% as well featured and nice to use as it, at some point you have to look beyond the rhetoric they spew and realize they’re acting in bad faith.
More like Steam is their OG of hate! While Tim (Epic) was happy with just selling their engine and making some games. Gabe (Valve) created a platform to allow other devs to sell their games as well as tools for creation. Valve made money by selling their games, their tools and other devs' games. Now Epic sees a market but is late to the party. It's only standing is how strong it is in the Console market (and the backing of Tencent who wants their store in iOS).
 
This Epic lawsuit seems ridiculous. Can't Epic just require users to have an online account that is replenished via a website (or automatically) and when a user wants to buy a virtual widget the account is debited virtually? Isn't this essentially how Netflix and Amazon do business.
Yes but Epic doesn't care about selling loot/boxes. They want a store on a platform that they had nothing to do with it's success. It's like wanting to sell your frozen meatballs at Target but you want them to checkout at your table instead of the store registers. Also Target won't be able to charge you rent or close the store when they want to (similar to depreciation of software/features).
 
I hope Epic loses because I remember a time when developers/companies did not try to throw their weight around and demand they be treated like gods and not pay for anything.
I remember a time where a developer would be lucky to get 20% of the revenue sold in mobile stores like Verizon's App Store (pre-iOS) also they would charge you a monthly fee for bluetooth to be enabled on your phone even though it cost them nothing.
 
(and the backing of Tencent who wants their store in iOS).

And there it is. The true purpose. This is not only a money-grab by Epic but an attack on Apple sponsored by Tencent and therefore approved of by the PRC (yes, I honestly believe this). Tencent may not compete directly with Apple yet but anything that weakens a foreign corporation would be seen as a positive by the powers in China. If it's legal, so much the better.
 
What? How and why would a US judge deal with Australian law. WHAT?! Can't even understand how that would be legal for the US judge. Just what?
 
Good call by Australia. Don't know why Epic is spreading themselves thin by starting fights all over the world at the same time. They really are screwing this up Epically (Not that I want them to succeed)

They supposedly prepped 2 years for this but maybe they should have given it another 2 years if this mess is what the result is.
It seems like Epic is basically bringing their case to as many courts as they can in the hopes that at least one will rule favourably for them. Perhaps they are hoping to use this favourable decision to help bolster their fights in other courts or something. I am not sure how this sort of legal fight is supposed to work, but I doubt it was ever intended to work that way.

Though the more this drags on, the more contempt I hold for Epic, and I won't shed a tear if they end up being snuffed out by Apple the same way one might crush a cockroach under their boot.
 
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