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Let me see if I have this figured correctly. A group of advertisers who are backed by Google(which itself makes it fortune from advertising) is criticising Apple who is a competitor to Google. They are complaining that Apple are allowing users of their products to have more privacy which thus makes it harder for Google and these advertisers to track the users and make profits from them as well as monetise their data by selling it to political consultancy firms or to the Russian government or whomever. Google and the advertisers seem to think that they have a genuine case and that somehow that we will not think for ourselves to work out what I just highlighted.
Yeah, that is really going to make me cheer them on /S

Agree. I'm sure they will be finding ways to work around it.
(No need to blindly follow the mainstream media anti-Russian bandwagon)
 
It's just a scam to sell gems to unlock chest with a chance to get a part of some sword.
That is outright illegal out where I live. The law considers it gambling and as such requires a license and oversight to operate such a thing. AFAIK no license has ever been awarded - and that's a good thing.
 
I wonder if, you didn’t bury this stuff in a menu somewhere, you asked people upfront if they wanted their data collected in clear language, how many people would agree.
 
Actually, it looks like Apple did add separate Read/Write permissions in iOS 11. Permission will ask to “Add Photos” or “Access to your Photo Library”

you can now give apps access only to selected photos, instead of the entire library
 
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All this tells me is that Apple is doing their freaking job. Good work, guys.
 
Why don’t these Google front companies just tell the EU police state they want to spy on people under the guise of “public health”? That excuse seems to work for everything else
 
Website/app developers and Google are screwing the advertisers with these schemes.

For example, I researched a new car online 8yrs ago and purchased it. I still get ads, sometimes on this site, for the same make and model car that I bought, (so long ago I updated to newer version of same car). How can this be considered effective to the car makers advertising department. Yet they pay Google for access to market. But its hardly tailored.

And how many ads in my kids free games have generated a sale, they never begged me to download Clash of clans for them, or whatever was being pushed at them. If anything it has desensitised them to ads.

Seems to me their argument is more about not being able to dupe advertisers out of money.
 
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I love how they worded that, hooray Apple! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Imagine what happens to iphones sales when the customer learns that if the Google app is doing this, then what could a Google OS do to their data?!

Companies are complaining about withdrawing their right to surveil people, some real dystopia stuff here, Orwell would be proud.
 
It’s doubtful that every country will want to work with the same standard or regulation authority. Plus - would this also include apps these days? Just not sure who would want to take that on.
They all agreed to GDPR, which AFAIK cites things like cookies that are part of web standards, so I don't see why not. It's still messy for the reasons GDPR is messy, though. Hence why I just hate the law and everything it's resulted in.
 
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The argument that some people have in the comments that app tracking is needed to pay for apps does not make sense. If people see the value of giving up their data in return for using the app, they will choose to do so. This feature only ensures that both parties understand the terms of the contract, sharing personal data in return for using the the app.
 
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What name do you develop under on the App Store? I'm genuinely curious what kinds of apps you create.

Looks like its https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/veeapps/id301044643

No wonder he's so upset about the thought of moving to a different revenue model for a set of seemingly identical speedtest apps seeing how saturated the market is for them and how little user value an app of this type would really have. How many speedtest apps does the market actually need?
 
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. There are 22 trackers on this web page according to new functionality in OS X


A Google-backed group of European digital advertising associations has criticized Apple for requiring apps in iOS 14 to seek additional permission from users before tracking them across other apps and websites, reports Reuters.

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During its iOS 14 preview at WWDC last week, Apple explained to developers several of its new user privacy features, which include new app tracking controls and transparency.

Specifically, developers are now required to get user consent before tracking them. When an app wants to track the user, a consent pop-up appears saying the app "would like permission to track you across apps and websites owned by other companies." Developers are given several lines below the main text to explain why the permission is being sought.

The system requires that apps only need to be granted permission once, and users can see which apps they have consented to track them in the Settings app, allowing them to change their preferences as and when required.

According to the report, the group of European marketing firms said the pop-up warning and the limited ability to customize it still carries "a high risk of user refusal."

Last week, however, Apple engineers said the company would improve a free tool for developers that uses anonymous, aggregated data to measure whether advertising campaigns are working. The tool does not trigger the tracking pop-up because it's specifically engineered not to track individual users.

Article Link: EU Advertisers Criticize New App Tracking Privacy Controls in iOS 14
 
Looks like its https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/veeapps/id301044643

No wonder he's so upset about the thought of moving to a different revenue model for a set of seemingly identical speedtest apps seeing how saturated the market is for them and how little user value an app of this type would really have. How many speedtest apps does the market actually need?

That's just sad. Those apps have very little utility.

I wish there was a way to filter apps in the store. I would hide all free ad-supported or micro-transaction apps.

Thanks to someone in the forums, I installed Numerical, a really cool calculator. Completely free, no ads, no nagging, no IAP. If you go to his website, he suggests donating if you want to support him. Though, if you want to support him, you need to contact him directly by email to get donation information. He doesn't even have a donation link on the site.

Compare that to the whiners in this thread. Muh ads!!! 😭
 
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Im not so sure when I think about it. The outcome might be that vendors stop writing apps and tell their users to use web version instead where it will be easier to track users.
 
Im not so sure when I think about it. The outcome might be that vendors stop writing apps and tell their users to use web version instead where it will be easier to track users.

That sounds like a "slippery slope" argument; that it would be better for Apple to not protect their customers' privacy now because doing so might, maybe, in the future lead to some developers leaving the App Store and doing what their business plan requires elsewhere.

I say let Apple do it. We can return to the topic in five years and see if anyone even remembers this happened.
 
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When it is a legal requirement for a website to do something then most people are accepting of it...no matter how annoying!!
Actually it's only a requirement for a website to show cookie warnings and/or ask for permission if you set cookies that track people to some level. Mere functional cookies like those needed to let you log in etc: there is absolutely no need to show a pop-up for that under the GDPR.
The whole reason for the pop-ups is that websites _want_ to spy on you.
 
Because we all know none of you really buy apps, you want them for free just like everyone else.

Interesting comment given this is an Apple forum where Apple users have been shown time and time again to not only purchase apps, but pay more than any other users on any App Store out there.

In the first half of 2020, the Apple App Store generated $32.8bn, double that of the google App Store at $17.3bn. This is despite Apple having a user base very much smaller than Android but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good story hey?
 
Sorry, I'm unable to disclose companies I am working with, nor want to discuss my apps. This allows me to speak freely :)

So you value your privacy then?
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Looks like its https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/veeapps/id301044643

No wonder he's so upset about the thought of moving to a different revenue model for a set of seemingly identical speedtest apps seeing how saturated the market is for them and how little user value an app of this type would really have. How many speedtest apps does the market actually need?

These are not apps that add any value so I’m not surprised people don’t pay for them - they are an ad delivery mechanism only, designed purely to take money from ad providers. This can be seen by this dev having 4 apps, doing exactly the same thing but with a different name. By getting rid of this chaff from the App Store, users will have a way better experience.
 
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Im not so sure when I think about it. The outcome might be that vendors stop writing apps and tell their users to use web version instead where it will be easier to track users.

And then we petition Apple to create their own replacement app for it. Just like how they have integrated flashlight and QR code scanning into iOS, and released their own AR ruler and voice recorder apps.
 
Well, of course they'll be upset.

If that's the response Apple are getting, then it's just further evidence that Apple are doing the right things on this subject.

Apple is on the right track. Google and Facebook making almost their whole money with selling our data. To whom? I would like to know at least who gets my data. Right direction Apple.
 
And then we petition Apple to create their own replacement app for it. Just like how they have integrated flashlight and QR code scanning into iOS, and released their own AR ruler and voice recorder apps.
Many apps are not standalone, they need content and interaction with others.
 
The legal rules are: They can ask for consent to cookie use, and the page where you would give consent must be clearly designed so that you can refuse consent _with one click_. And they are not allowed to restrict your usage of the site in any way due to lack of consent.
I would estimate through experience that probably 99% of websites are simply not complying with this.
1. Cookies are created/updated/used before any such message even gets displayed.
2. If you click neither consent nor refusal options; they still dump the same cookies from both the site and advertisers/trackers.
3. Many don’t have the option of refusal. It’s simply “We do this. Suck it.”
4. Those that have anything more than a single ’accept’ button certainly don’t have a 1-click refuse. It’ll be a click to manage, then a load of drivel, click to expand options, click each option to go to a specific setting page, click the toggle, save, return to list, continue with next in list, ... then finally save the full selection.
5. Many proclaim to have ‘essential’ cookies that can’t be disabled. Absolute nonsense - for example; I can turn off all cookies (in safari) and still use the BBC news website.
6. If a website cant function without being a Cookie Monster; how broken is the internet?
🤣 So I guess everyone here complaining about the tracking loves ads not relevant to them. If am going to see ads, I rather see ads about things I might be interested in.
Ha. even with all this data; most ads are poorly targeted. I would suggest that subject specific ads are more relevant.
Examples:
Ebay should have a little info on my browsing and purchasing habits, right? So why suggest I may be interested in dog toys / grooming / pet beds when I don’t have a dog and have never bought or browsed a single item in the pet categories?
When watching ye olde broadcast TV; children’s channels have (shock!) toy adverts. However did they make that leap? Similar example at a more refined level would be food related ads around a cooking program. Incredible.
 
Well, of course they'll be upset.

If that's the response Apple are getting, then it's just further evidence that Apple are doing the right things on this subject.
I am so glad that Apple is doing this. About time they did this. Screw those that track in the background. I do wonder though how these background tracking and the notifications will work in countries like China ,Saudi,Iran,Cambodia,Russia,Vietnam,Israel,Myanmar,Africa,and other similar countries which like to track 🤔
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The argument that some people have in the comments that app tracking is needed to pay for apps does not make sense. If people see the value of giving up their data in return for using the app, they will choose to do so. This feature only ensures that both parties understand the terms of the contract, sharing personal data in return for using the the app.
I think given the option many people would rather pay before giving up personal data and allowing tracking to take place. Offer people the option to download app tracking free and non data collection app for a small fee or allow them to download app which collects data and tracks for free. Let end users decide. Sort of like those who wish to upload all their personal data to the cloud servers.
 
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