The developer doesn't have to make money. I don't see where that sense of entitlement comes from.
The blame is on the developers failing to create supply at a price where there is demand.
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EU Advertisers Criticize New App Tracking Privacy Controls in iOS 14
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The developer doesn't have to make money. I don't see where that sense of entitlement comes from.
The blame is on the developers failing to create supply at a price where there is demand.
so this could potentially break stuff like Appsflyer and CleverTap. Interesting. We use that at work
Thank you Apple! Simply outrageous that these business have the audacity to complain about Apple making developers inform and receive consent for tracking.
Good for Apple, shame on Google.
But will Apple provide us with a global OFF or DENY setting? If they were truly committed to user privacy they would.
In the meantime, it would be good if they'd provide timed AND one-tap access to clearing out cookies and history. Let me set up my device so that, a la Cookie add-in on the Mac, ALL cookies are deleted every X minutes (with options to make some preserved) AND let me put “Clear All Cookies & History” in the Control Center for fast access. (Right now, one has to tap to go Home, then launch Settigs, then scroll down and down to Safari, tap it, then scroll down and down to the Clear button. Time-consuming.)
Apple could do so much more to protect our privacy and block these trackers!
But will Apple provide us with a global OFF or DENY setting? If they were truly committed to user privacy they would.
In the meantime, it would be good if they'd provide timed AND one-tap access to clearing out cookies and history. Let me set up my device so that, a la Cookie add-in on the Mac, ALL cookies are deleted every X minutes (with options to make some preserved) AND let me put “Clear All Cookies & History” in the Control Center for fast access. (Right now, one has to tap to go Home, then launch Settigs, then scroll down and down to Safari, tap it, then scroll down and down to the Clear button. Time-consuming.)
Apple could do so much more to protect our privacy and block these trackers!
Cool...and good riddance! If people won't pay a marginal fee for an app then it doesn't hold any true value to them. And if your business model (I don't know if you are a developer, but you are writing as if you are...apologies if I am wrong) it reliant on ad revenue, and your app wouldn't earn you enough if you charged a modest fee, then I think you are in the wrong business!!
But hey, if it bothers you that much then lobby for change...maybe start a hashtag and see if you can drum up some outrage on Twitter...can I suggest #applivesmatter
You and many others keep saying this but thats not reality. People just wont pay for apps wether it has value or not. They think it should be free no matter what.
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People won't even pay a dollar for an app, the lowest price that can be charged. Go make an app and try and change for it. People wont buy it no matter how good it is. Free with ads vs. paid at 99 cents the free with ads will get 1000x more installs. People don't buy apps.
By your logic the App Store will be full of just hobbyist apps.
They won't pay for YOUR apps. The only way you can make money with your existing apps is by exploiting your users' privacy.
Either develop marketable apps or go find another way to use your development skills.
You don't know what you're talking about at all, your reply is a pretty crappy excuse of a reply. Go dig around, its not just me saying it. It's not exploiting users, not everyone is Facebook and selling or gathering every single bit of data or TicTok coping your clipboard.
But it seems your ok with every app costing money now so you can enjoy that world because its going to be a pretty crappy one to be in.
Well thank you for your insight...I have a long weekend ahead of me because I have to contact Apple to request a refund for the several hundred dollars that they have taken out of my bank account over the last year because - apparently - I didn't actually spend that money on apps because "People just won't pay for apps".
Seriously, thanks, you've just saved me a ton of money because I can quote you when I ask for my refund and Apple will have to refund me because random internet dude knows that I didn't actually spend the money!!
Yes, it is. No matter how you try to justify it.
Oh no...imagine the horror of a world where everything you use costs money!! Like...the entire world was before the internet existed! And yet, humanity survived. In fact, it did more than survive, it actually flourished. It flourished enough for people to actually invent the tech you are getting bent out of shape about!!
The thing you don't seem to be considering is that, while you say that only 1 in 1000 actually pay a dollar to remove ads, that's most likely because of one of two reasons: 1) the app isn't worth the dollar to them or 2) because there is an option to live with the ads, they take it. If the app didn't exist in a free (ad-supported) version then their only choice is have the app or not...unlike now where it is have the free app and live with the ads, have the app and pay a dollar to remove the ads, or don't have it.
And as others have said, honestly, if this means the dying out of tens of thousands of "throwaway" apps that people download on a whim and which don't actually add any real value to their day/life...then I am all for it.
The cream always rises to the top!
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Seriously...dude...how do you think physical product companies survive? They either sell (i.e. paid for) products or they don't. There are millions of physical product businesses worldwide that survive...and tens of millions that don't. It comes down to 1) actual desirability of product and 2) getting the price right.
You mention that it was consumers that refused to pay for apps...well...perhaps that's because the apps that they were being offered weren't worth the money to them. So it seems that some developers who clearly felt they were owed success turned to a different model to monetise themselves, a very risky model, and are now bitching that their revenue streams have been cut off.
Tough luck! Make more desirable/useful apps and people will pay. Or they won't. If they pay...you win...if they don't...you lose. Again, tough luck!
I want to be an astronaut...can't...too old...too fat!! So I do what I can rather than complain that NASAs hiring practices are unfair.
Oh no...imagine the horror of a world where everything you use costs money!! Like...the entire world was before the internet existed! And yet, humanity survived. In fact, it did more than survive, it actually flourished. It flourished enough for people to actually invent the tech you are getting bent out of shape about!!
The thing you don't seem to be considering is that, while you say that only 1 in 1000 actually pay a dollar to remove ads, that's most likely because of one of two reasons: 1) the app isn't worth the dollar to them or 2) because there is an option to live with the ads, they take it. If the app didn't exist in a free (ad-supported) version then their only choice is have the app or not...unlike now where it is have the free app and live with the ads, have the app and pay a dollar to remove the ads, or don't have it.
And as others have said, honestly, if this means the dying out of tens of thousands of "throwaway" apps that people download on a whim and which don't actually add any real value to their day/life...then I am all for it.
The cream always rises to the top!
It's all easy to type that, but you and I both know there is no going back there. There is no going back to people paying for apps.
And yes there is an option to live with ads and take it as most do, It's looking at ads in exchange for something being free, just like almost every website on the internet. But now that in iOS 14 with this new alert, that goes severely disrupted. You can keep ads in your app but if someone says NO on that message ads will not appear as it is right now from Google. You have to then fall back on some crappy pub. network that serves garbage ads that don't pay anything.
No one can survive on the income from that and it will never work so apps will simply go away from the iOS App Store, and be found only on Android.
I agree...based on one simple fact.
If users would not agree to it if given the choice, then subjecting them to it without their knowledge is exploitation.
What's the phrase...silence is not consent...
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So develop for Android then!
Why won't it make two markets? One where you pay more for targeted and less for general.
So you're saying thousands of apps will leave the App Store? Hallelujah!
Leave the free tier to the guys who make apps for the good of humanity, not privacy-stealing garbage.
Eh, this GDPR stuff is just a pain in the butt for everyone and not a real solution for the few who care so much about privacy. If I'm using a service for free, like nearly everyone, I don't really care. If I'm worried enough, I take my own measures to prevent tracking rather than trusting a vague law to protect my privacy, cause guess what, it won't.
Then you have the option to allow the tracking...and those who object to the parasitic nature of tracking and unwanted ads can choose to not allow it...everybody wins!
Except dlewis23 apparently...
Your experience is one data point. I wouldn’t draw such vast conclusions as you do. Clearly many people have paid for apps in the past, pay for them at present, and will pay in the future. Many pay for subscriptions as well.
I tell you what...point me in the direction of one of your apps and, if it's a reasonable price, I will go pay for it right now...to support a struggling developer...
No, everybody deals with annoying incessant popups on every single website asking to allow cookies. There's usually not even a "no" button. Devs deal with difficult-to-implement rules to the point where big corps like Facebook are *pro-GDPR* because it kills competition. Lawmakers don't understand technology, give it 100 years.
You are willfully misrepresenting the case. There are several apps I use that allow me to opt out of tracking and require me to acknowledge that I will still see ads, just not tailored ones.
Nothing about this consent prompt is blocking ads - it is giving consumers the ability to consent to how and with whom their data is shared. If that is the direction the market moves en masse, then it is on the advertisers to adjust appropriately. Google did it with gmail scanning emails for advertising (though they still allow 3rd parties to do it).
It is a crappy argument against people, but for companies I think it is fair game: if they aren't doing anything wrong, what do they have to fear?
Nothing about this consent prompt is blocking ads - it is giving consumers the ability to consent to how and with whom their data is shared. If that is the direction the market moves en masse, then it is on the advertisers to adjust appropriately. Google did it with gmail scanning emails for advertising (though they still allow 3rd parties to do it).
It is a crappy argument against people, but for companies I think it is fair game: if they aren't doing anything wrong, what do they have to fear?