Companies can tolerate only so much overregulation before exiting an unprofitable market.
why don’t you share with the class if the EU is a profitable market for apple
Companies can tolerate only so much overregulation before exiting an unprofitable market.
All developers want is for Apple to play fair.EU is lawless it seems. Why don't they just come out and say EU government wants take Tim Cook's place as Apple CEO? And their civil servants will replace Apple's product development teams.
That horse has already bolted in the EU.One App Store makes the most sense. Go Android if you don't like it.
Open vs closed system. Customers win. Customer lose when they no longer have the option of choosing a closed system.
You've never heard of Steam?“Just make it like macOS”. You know what macOS, Windows, and Android don’t have? A profitable and very popular consumer third-party marketplace.
theres a difference between defending a Company and defending an idea. Companies are in business to make money, not serve you or give you handouts.I never quite understand someone defending a trillion dollar company whose sole intent with the changes they've done is to make more money.
The DMA specifically states that “the gatekeeper shall allow business users and alternative providers of services provided together with, or in support of, core platform services, free of charge, effective interoperability with, and access for the purposes of interoperability to, the same operating system, hardware or software features, regardless of whether those features are part of the operating system, as are available to, or used by, that gatekeeper when providing such services.” We’ll see.I think this is all funny. EU over regulates. Apple follows the letter of the law, which does not state “do it free”. EU: that’s not what we meant. Tim Apple: 🤷♂️
I can’t say if it is or not for them, I don’t work for them. Personally, I laid off 30 people and closed my business in the EU Due to stifling over regulation.why don’t you share with the class if the EU is a profitable market for apple
Not if they want to access the Digitial Single Market in the EU. They have to follow the rule of the land or is Apple bigger than a democratically elected government?EU is a bully.
Apple has every right to amend their own rules as the OS is in their control.
It's how countries and economies work, it's why everyone pays taxes to government, even if they like it or not.
What spotify and others want is to do is tax evasion to increase their profit margin, I wish they spent all that legal fee in actually trying to make their apps/service better and fight for equal visibility and fight against pre-loading apple music on iOS.
And Apple wouldn’t exist without app developers.Don’t forget, most of these developers wouldn’t even exist without the Apple App Store.
One App Store makes the most sense. Go Android if you don't like it.
Open vs closed system. Customers win. Customer lose when they no longer have the option of choosing a closed system.
So you have a company big enough to lay off 30 people but don’t know what a public income statement is 🤔I can’t say if it is or not for them, I don’t work for them. Personally, I laid off 30 people and closed my business in the EU Due to stifling over regulation.
I can’t say if it is or not for them, I don’t work for them. Personally, I laid off 30 people and closed my business in the EU Due to stifling over regulation.
Without developers and their apps, iPhone would not have been such a big success. Remember Windows phone?Don’t forget, most of these developers wouldn’t even exist without the Apple App Store. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
Gladly and already exited that market. retired at 35.Allowing apps to be installed freely from any source makes the most sense. Stay out of the EU if you don’t like it.![]()
Without the iPhone, developers wouldn't even exist. It’s a symbiotic relationship.Without developers and their apps, iPhone would not have been such a big success. Remember Windows phone?
Apple makes 25% of their total revenue in the EU, but only 7% of their app store revenue. They would still be very profitable even if they had zero profits from the app store in the EU.Companies can tolerate only so much overregulation before exiting an unprofitable market.
Then I would say, stop being lazy and do it yourself if you want the answer. I’m not your servant. You go easily find out, you asked the question.they’re a public company you can easily go find out
That’s not justification for anything. No company exists to break even. Without profits there’s no taxes and innovation.Apple makes 25% of their total revenue in the EU, but only 7% of their app store revenue. They would still be very profitable even if they had zero profits from the app store in the EU.
Didn’t you read that Apple would still be very profitable?That’s not justification for anything. No company exists to break even. Without profits there’s no taxes and innovation.
No. You cannot compare percentages like that. For example, 7% of a billion is far greater profit than 25% of one million. The roi isn’t there, for example.Didn’t you read that Apple would still be very profitable?
The DMA also states that gatekeepers "shall not engage in any behaviour that undermines effective compliance with the obligations of Articles 5, 6 and 7 regardless of whether that behaviour is of a contractual, commercial or technical nature, or of any other nature, or consists in the use of behavioural techniques or interface design"The DMA specifically states that “the gatekeeper shall allow business users and alternative providers of services provided together with, or in support of, core platform services, free of charge, effective interoperability with, and access for the purposes of interoperability to, the same operating system, hardware or software features, regardless of whether those features are part of the operating system, as are available to, or used by, that gatekeeper when providing such services.”
Because there will be no option to choose a closed system. All systems will be open by law. I find that is in favour of developers and not consumers. Consumers don’t care about app stores. They care about systems that are safe to use and reliable. Something that cannot be said about ANY open system ever created. That’s the problem.People can strongly prefer iOS and still not like having a single app store. Why does it always have to be so black and white (if you don't like this particular thing Apple does, go to Android)? Apple is a company, so therefore they are fallible. People choose iOS or macOS for a weighted mixture of preferences.
Also, I guess following your reasoning, Apple should close up macOS as well to offer more 'choice' in the laptop market?