I think you're wrong here, to my mind the reason that developers flocked to the App Store and the iPhone was not because the market was closed or because it was safe, but rather because it was easy and had great UX. Apple released APIs that let any developer build Apps that were on par with the apps that shipped with the OS, and those apps provided a great, easy to use experience. Apple built a platform, even at its peak Blackberry was never a proper platform because it was always shuffling from thing to thing and never really refined it's UX or its APIs to transition away from being just another mobile phone company. From the start Apple built something that was meant to be as easy and intuitive as iPod was and that helped drive it forward. The closed ecosystem had almost nothing to do with it. Ease of use did.
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EU Antitrust Chief Warns Apple About App Store Fees and Safety Warnings
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I think anyone using steam would disagree.
Wonder who have had the most malware posted in their store🤔
The steam store since 2003 vs the AppStore posts 2022
Can someone provide a list of well known, popular apps that aren‘t available in Google’s Play Store because Android is ’open’?
Any source on that? CVE Details at least says otherwise: https://www.cvedetails.com/top-50-products.php
It is a well known fact that before the iPhone software didn’t exist. The first developers appeared in the late 2000s…
The lack of app parity between Android and iOS is largely down to the fragmentation of hardware rather than the open nature of the platform.
Exactly. So, why is Apple/Fanboys acting as if Apple is doing the developers a favor?
Well with this we could get a single store for both android and iOS apps/ games.
Just how steam is today the one stop shop for windows,Mac,Linux,SteamOS
This will make things way more profitable for small businesses, they won’t need to try and meat multiple stores arbitrary rules and use “steam” for mobile apps
Consumers flocked to the iPhone because it was designed and targeted to everyone and not just business users like most smartphones. The App Store wasn’t even part of the early story. Early on the killer apps were first-party. One device that could call, text, provide GPS, act as your iPod, and had a real internet browser? That was insanely desirable. The App Store didn’t even come out until after the iPhone was already a market success. The App Store and devs arriving to it is what allowed Apple to kill off most of the rest of their competitors, as software markets will not support fragmentation.
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Here's a thought, to let Apple maintain a fee that might be more direct and fair...
just charge for the notarisation?
Maybe a sliding scale of price based on how many prior downloads or income the last update got so as not to punish the 'freemium viral hit'
Of course that leads to a "why should I pay for notarising apps, it should all be open" but then Apple have a rock solid argument that this helps maintain security on the platform and the more widely distributed the app is, the bigger the security risk.
EDIT: I wasn't reading the comments, just a thought I had after reading the article. I had no idea I waded right into the middle of a debate about the legitimacy of app notarisation.
just charge for the notarisation?
Maybe a sliding scale of price based on how many prior downloads or income the last update got so as not to punish the 'freemium viral hit'
Of course that leads to a "why should I pay for notarising apps, it should all be open" but then Apple have a rock solid argument that this helps maintain security on the platform and the more widely distributed the app is, the bigger the security risk.
EDIT: I wasn't reading the comments, just a thought I had after reading the article. I had no idea I waded right into the middle of a debate about the legitimacy of app notarisation.
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Apple should have just added a way to sideload raw .ipa files in the EU and left it at that. They could have easily locked the option away behind 5 screens of 'Are you sure...?' 'Are you really sure....?' and indicated in plain <local dialect> that upon sideloading a .ipa file Apple would provide you with no after sales support if you borked your iPhone. Heck, run a TV campaign telling users exactly this.
Then they would have a high horse to sit on and say 'we told you so' rather than the desperate attempts at control currently going on.
Then they would have a high horse to sit on and say 'we told you so' rather than the desperate attempts at control currently going on.
Apple are not even allowed to say their app store is better.. what a load a corrupt EU crock of….
And the EU has already told Apple will not be allowed to do that on iOS !
What could possibly go wrong?
Well, Apple and the other tech giants are too big with more power than any other corporations we've ever seen in history.
This notion that the likes of Apple and Google are just successful tech companies that happen to be disproportionally successful because they create such great products is fundamentally ignorant of how these companies have risen to their wealth and the state of modern living in the West.
These corporations have the impact and are negotiated with by politicians as if they were countries.
Way past too big.
Giant tech needs to be heavily regulated or otherwise broken up.
No privately owned business can be allowed to freely tax and dictate the rules of our biggest digital markets as if they were governments.
It does not matter if Apple created the App Store. The well-being of our economies and growth as societies have to be prioritised over the well-being of big tech and their shareholders.
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Not true, apple isn’t allowed to force every app to be notarized.
As long as the option exists of not participating it’s all fine and kosher.
I can see what you're saying. The up-market iPhone users did help things somewhat!
Softare markets don't mind fragmentation though. The videogame industry didn't become the largest entertainment medium on the planet through one marketplace and chipset.
I won't lie: Steam for Android and iOS would be AMAZING
True. Shareholders keep questioning the board even if they manage the status quo and show no growth. If they show a deep dip of 25% drop in revenues, not only will the board lose their place, but they may also face legal action (not sure about the process).
I am sure the blatant copies of existing apps, scam apps, privacy stealing apps, and viruses that will be popping up on alternate app stores in the EU will be sure to get notarized ASAP.
I don't think you understand what a right is. The EU establishes the laws of the land so if Apple wants to do business in that territory then they have to follow the rules. They are a foreign entity and have no natural right to be there.
What is funny is that the EU made their intent clear. Apple decides to look for loopholes with a "you didn't say Simon says" energy. That kind of crap goes over in the US for some reason but the EU isn't playing.
What are you even talking about? Lawless? These are literally laws being put into place to regulate the industry. Apple is the lawless outlaw for trying to get around the rules here. Apple is well aware of the EU's intent and their main worry is that this could happen in other markets including the US. Without their ability to lock people in and thwart completion Apple's value will drop.
Goodbye Core Technology Fee, you won’t be missed by many
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Real bastion of free speech over there in the EU 😂 can’t wait for the Euro fetishists on this forum to explain that rigid speech restrictions by government regulators are freedom, actually.
Well this has always bean the case. Burger King is also not allowed to advertise that it’s Whopper is better than a Big Mac unless it can be proven by science or something
The U.S. DOJ would've reacted the same if Microsoft tried something similar i.e., putting a "warning" on Windows if someone tried to download Netscape Navigator, WordPerfect, Quattro Pro, etc.